General & Others Who is the most overrated character in OP?

[Marimo_420]

Man, guess Oda didn’t portray them as rivals within the last five chapters along with Kid, the same way he did at Sabaody. And it’s a shame that Oda hasn’t built up Luffy, Law, and Kid to be the three to fight Kaido together.

But I guess that Kaido and Big Mom aren’t rivals because they have an alliance, nor were they ever because they have this alliance. Garp and Roger were also not rivals, because they too had an alliance. Hawkins is not a rival to Kid, because they were once in an alliance, nor is Apoo.

Oh, and because you mentioned Kid, see he can’t be a rival of Luffy’s either, because he’s right in the middle of an alliance with Luffy as well.

He can accomplish his dream, it doesn’t mean he’ll be stronger than Law.

Ok my bad. I guess I should have made my post a bit clearer. I'm not saying it's due to him just being in an alliance. I'm saying law's portrayal changed after he made one.
Law was protryed to be a pretty deranged individual-someone who you couldn't trust.

Yet after they teamed up hes been pretty sound. He's been dragged into the crews shinneegans, saved luffys life on multiple occasions and doesn't really seem to even care about the pirate king title. He don't even seem like much of a back stabber.

His ultimate goal was getting revenge for corazon, not the one piece and most definitely not the yonkos. It was doflamingo.
Once again I have hope for kidd only. Rest of the worst gen crews will be cheerleaders for luffy one way or another.


Also being luffys rival doesn't equate to being above Zoro lol


I have already argued that 'pure swordsman' bs too many times. Ain't gonna argue on this thread

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Useless semantics to justify why apparently Zoro wins against anybody... Law has a devil Fruit Nd its many abilities quit acting like a it doesn't mean anything. Your the one living in denial.

Can law fight without his sword fuck no he can’t do no damage.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Can law fight without his sword fuck no he can’t do no damage.

does he or does he not have df powers? Stop making excuses.

 

[yj]

Useless semantics to justify why apparently Zoro wins against anybody... Law has a devil Fruit Nd its many abilities quit acting like a it doesn't mean anything. Your the one living in denial.

Funny enough I’m not the one arguing against odas words. Laws df is cool and all but he’s still a named swordsman who uses his df along with his sword. zoro is and will factually be above law now and eos. Don’t quote me again

 

[Ravagerblade]

Funny enough I’m not the one arguing against odas words. Laws df is cool and all but he’s still a named swordsman who uses his df along with his sword. zoro is and will factually be above law now and eos. Don’t quote me again

I will quote you because you're opinion is based on subjectivity. I don't care if Law uses a sword he has his DF abilities that could allow him to win, he doesn't need to win in a straight up sword fight. Continue to live in denial.

 

[Marimo_420]

I will quote you because you're opinion is based on subjectivity. I don't care if Law uses a sword he has his DF abilities that could allow him to win, he doesn't need to win in a straight up sword fight. Continue to live in denial.

Your argument is based on the subjective notion that such a thing as 'pure swordsman' exists in the one piece verse

 

[Don DaSlayer]

does he or does he not have df powers? Stop making excuses.

What excuses clown. Take law’s sword away then he can’t do shit. All his attacks come from his Sword. How would he defeat Vergo then without his Sword? 🤡

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So now this mf’s claim that Lhanks Rayleigh and Law aren’t swordsman gtfo.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Your argument is based on the subjective notion that such a thing as 'pure swordsman' exists in the one piece verse

Never said anything about a pure swordsman, that's putting words in what I've said. Try better next time.

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What excuses clown. Take law’s sword away then he can’t do shit. All his attacks come from his Sword. How would he defeat Vergo then without his Sword? 🤡

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So now this mf’s claim that Lhanks Rayleigh and Law aren’t swordsman gtfo.

So much wrong with your post that not even god could fix it.

 

[OEKaneki]

it does eos zoro will be the strongest swordsman in the verse. Law is no exception. Put some respect on zoros dream

When Zoro’s dream isn’t even the stronger than his rival.

Ok my bad. I guess I should have made my post a bit clearer. I'm not saying it's due to him just being in an alliance. I'm saying law's portrayal changed after he made one.
Law was protryed to be a pretty deranged individual-someone who you couldn't trust.

Yet after they teamed up hes been pretty sound. He's been dragged into the crews shinneegans, saved luffys life on multiple occasions and doesn't really seem to even care about the pirate king title. He don't even seem like much of a back stabber.

Law’s portrayal never changed. He was never portrayed as a wild, deranged person you couldn’t trust. He was the first Supernova that we got to see branch out a bit, and the very first thing he did was save Luffy’s life for no reason other than on a whim. This was well before, two years before, they ever allied.

His ultimate goal was getting revenge for corazon, not the one piece and most definitely not the yonkos. It was doflamingo.
Once again I have hope for kidd only. Rest of the worst gen crews will be cheerleaders for luffy one way or another.

And? Whitebeard didn’t have the same goal as Roger. Garp didn’t have the same goal as Roger. And nonetheless, they were his rivals. As a matter of fact, nobody in Roger’s era had a uniform goal because One Piece wasn’t even a thing, and yet Roger had rivals despite that.

Law is interested in the OP from what we’ve seen. It isn’t the only thing he cares about. Which is fine. Also, Luffy doesn’t even care that much about it as opposed to what it represents. You don’t have to have the same goal to be someone’s rival.

Also being luffys rival doesn't equate to being above Zoro lol

Yes it does. To say otherwise is to say something like Rayleigh being as strong as Garp or Whitebeard. Zoro will never be in the league of people that are exclusively Luffy’s rivals.

I have already argued that 'pure swordsman' bs too many times. Ain't gonna argue on this thread

I never said anything about pure swordsmanship. I never implied it. For my part, I am fascinated by the unending need for Zoro fanboys to cling to titles in a series in which:

• The World’s Strongest Man and the World’s Strongest Creature exist at the same time and are two different people, and the World’s Strongest Man was stronger than the World’s Strongest Creature, despite man being a subset of creature
• The World’s Strongest Man wasn’t the World’s Strongest Man, and was either second or tied for second (with Garp) as he wasn’t as strong as the actual strongest man
• The World’s Strongest Creature was brushed back by a man of equal stature without the title who was on his way to stop a war the World’s strongest Creature likely wanted to escalate
• The World’s Strongest Swordsman isn’t as strong as the man once dubbed to be his rival, nor another Yonko that uses a blade at times
• The World’s Most Heinous Criminal isn’t heinous to anybody except the upper echelon of the corrupt World Government.

Did I miss any?

 

[Finalbeta]

Another Z vs S I freaking knew it...

 

[Marimo_420]

Never said anything about a pure swordsman, that's putting words in what I've said. Try better next time.

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So much wrong with your post that not even god could fix it.

You're literally saying law's df doesn't make him a Swordsman.
Cabaji was riding a unicycle while breathing fire. Hatchi was a 6 armed fishman. Daz bones flat out refused to be called one but zoro labelled him anyway.
Kaku was an extremely adept rokushiki user with a df but he was still a swordsman.
Having a different power doesn't magically make you something else if you are primarily a Swordsman

 

[Don DaSlayer]

You're literally saying law's df doesn't make him a Swordsman.
Cabaji was riding a unicycle while breathing fire. Hatchi was a 6 armed fishman. Daz bones flat out refused to be called one but zoro labelled him anyway.
Kaku was an extremely adept rokushiki user with a df but he was still a swordsman.
Having a different power doesn't magically make you something else if you are primarily a Swordsman

For him even Shanks or Rayeigh aren’t swordsmen.

 

[yj]

Zoro will never be in the league of people that are exclusively Luffy’s rivals.

Zoro was mentioned in the throne wars as a potential candidate for being pirate king. Is constantly being mistaken as the captain. stop acting dense

 

[Ravagerblade]

You're literally saying law's df doesn't make him a Swordsman.
Cabaji was riding a unicycle while breathing fire. Hatchi was a 6 armed fishman. Daz bones flat out refused to be called one but zoro labelled him anyway.
Kaku was an extremely adept rokushiki user with a df but he was still a swordsman.
Having a different power doesn't magically make you something else if you are primarily a Swordsman

Stop making shit up. Its unbecoming.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Stop making shit up. Its unbecoming.

Wtf are u smoking? What is he making up Clown. Btw don’t report me don’t be like shanks

 

[Ravagerblade]

Wtf are u smoking? What is he making up Clown. Btw don’t report me don’t be like shanks

His first sentence. Never said it. Your the one with the insults, blockhead.

 

[OEKaneki]

Zoro was mentioned in the throne wars as a potential candidate for being pirate king. Is constantly being mistaken as the captain. stop acting dense

If you walked away from that thinking in any way that the image portrayed Zoro as being a candidate for Pirate King, then I’m not the one being dense and you’re just another fanboy not worth talking to.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

His first sentence. Never said it. Your the one with the insults, blockhead.

So for you fujitora isn’t a swordsman too. Can’t wait for zoro to get more feats. Cuz we gonna flame your ass.

 

[Ravagerblade]

If you walked away from that thinking in any way that the image portrayed Zoro as being a candidate for Pirate King, then I’m not the one being dense and you’re just a fanboy not worth talking to.

Zoro Wanker, what did you expect.

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So for you fujitora isn’t a swordsman too. Can’t wait for zoro to get more feats. Cuz we gonna flame your ass.

Dude do you even fucking read what i said... I've never said that. Not once, why is that so difficult for you to understand?

 

[yj]

If you walked away from that thinking in any way that the image portrayed Zoro as being a candidate for Pirate King, then I’m not the one being dense and you’re just another fanboy.

says the one rocking a luffy avi. You’re blatantly ignoring zoros portrayal pushing ur nonsense fan made rivalry.