Powers & Abilities Sword skill (without haki) is a myth: Haki makes a master swordsman

You failing to comprehend the manga doesn't make you right.

The scene tells us the winner of the battle is the one with the stronger haki.


It had nothing to do with steel vs skin. So your point is irrelevant.
Give hardened Sword to Pica.. Zoro ain't One shotting him..
Yeah Pica could use Ryuo Hardening on a Sword.. Of course that means Zoro has better Haki by default..
There not only one way to interpret things.. Ryuo Hardening> Base Hardening.. Here you go..
 
Give hardened Sword to Pica.. Zoro ain't One shotting him..
Yeah Pica could use Ryuo Hardening on a Sword.. Of course that means Zoro has better Haki by default..
There not only one way to interpret things.. Ryuo Hardening> Base Hardening.. Here you go..
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You just claim Zoro sword made his haki better. It's the opposite. Haki increases offensive and defensive power. His sword has zero effect on his haki.

Once again. The manga stated the winner is the one with the stronger haki.
 
:crazwhat:

You just claim Zoro sword made his haki better. It's the opposite. Haki increases offensive and defensive power. His sword has zero effect on his haki.

Once again. The manga stated the winner is the one with the stronger haki.
Stronger Haki as..

Ryuo Hardening>Base Hardening

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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Agreed 100%, but the fact that you even have to make this thread is funny lol. This should go without saying, every Zoro powerup in the post ts has either been in Haki or getting better swords but still the mental gymnastics continue lmao.
 
Agreed 100%, but the fact that you even have to make this thread is funny lol. This should go without saying, every Zoro powerup in the post ts has either been in Haki or getting better swords but still the mental gymnastics continue lmao.
lol....you were one of the first person I tried to tag in this thread

Making things up is Zoro having AdCoC when he just unleash CoC and that’s not even his specialty..
Is haki specialty a thing? I mean we are very close to the end game and there is no mention of it. As I said before, I believe Oda scrapped that idea.

If haki specialty was still relevant, I would expect Zoro and Sanji to get the advanced versions of CoA and CoO, respectively. Instead, Luffy unlocked all the advanced versions. I understand Luffy is supposed to be the Jesus in this story, it still raises question why the other two havent done the same with their supposed specialty.

I understand where your heads at. You are fixated on swordsmen utilizing CoA which aligns with Zoro's haki specialty. However, AdCoA is a vastly inferior powerup compared to AdCoC as we have seen at rooftop. Thats why, going forward, I dont see any reason for Oda focusing on Zoro's CoA instead of developing his CoC.
 
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Zolo

Cope Doctor
You are right, if WSS title is given to that person who is the strongest, then they have to use the power that makes them strong, Haki is what matters, a better mastery of Haki will help you in a fight no matter what skills does the other use.
It only sucks that mihawk isnt master haki man while shanks is
 
Is haki specialty a thing anymore? I mean we are very close to the end game and there is no mention of it. As I said before, I believe Oda scrapped that idea.

If haki specialty was still a thing, I would expect Zoro and Sanji to get the advanced versions of CoA and CoO, respectively. Instead, Luffy unlocked the advanced CoA and CoO. I understand Luffy is supposed to be the Jesus of this story, it still raises question why the other two havent done the same with their supposed specialty.

I understand where your heads at. You are fixated on swordsmen utilizing CoA which aligns with Zoro's hai specialty. However, AdCoA is a vastly inferior powerup compared to AdCoC as we have seen at rooftop. Thats why, going forward, I dont see any reason for Oda focusing on Zoro's CoA instead of developing his CoC.
We can say we are close to the end but until we there for real it's not really the end game.. lt's putting time constraints when we actually
don't know..

You know Luffy is a special case, he's the main character who has to become a Haki Master and go through all the step for him to reach the top of the verse and beyond.. l'd argue Zoro and Sanji don't need to become Haki Masters, they need to find their Haki Niche.. Actually it's what Haki Swordsmanship is all about a specific Haki Niche..


Which Sanji will obviously be CoO related or CoC based CoO application.. Zoro will be CoA based CoC application which are the Black Blades.. And the more i've been talking about it the more apparent it's getting..

The thing with AdCoC is it is not a CoA based CoC application, it's a CoC based CoA application.. l hear you screaming and every Zoro fans - WHAT THE HELL lS THE DlFFERENCE! - .. Well that's where the Black Blades come in which are mostly going to be a CoA based CoC application and the best way i can picture it right now is CoC lnfusion or CoC Hardening on the Blade.. That's the Haki Path Divergence for Swordsmen aiming at the Pinnacle of Swordsmanship..


By the way you commenting helped me reach another level of understanding, thank you..

l hope everyone who reads this gets a nugget out of it..


Also in that same line of thought, Observation Killer would be a CoO based CoC application..
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
We can say we are close to the end but until we there for real it's not really the end game.. lt's putting time constraints when we actually
don't know..

You know Luffy is a special case, he's the main character who has to become a Haki Master and go through all the step for him to reach the top of the verse and beyond.. l'd argue Zoro and Sanji don't need to become Haki Masters, they need to find their Haki Niche.. Actually it's what Haki Swordsmanship is all about a specific Haki Niche..


Which Sanji will obviously be CoO related or CoC based CoO application.. Zoro will be CoA based CoC application which are the Black Blades.. And the more i've been talking about it the more apparent it's getting..

The thing with AdCoC is it is not a CoA based CoC application, it's a CoC based CoA application.. l hear you screaming and every Zoro fans - WHAT THE HELL lS THE DlFFERENCE! - .. Well that's where the Black Blades come in which are mostly going to be a CoA based CoC application and the best way i can picture it right now is CoC lnfusion or CoC Hardening on the Blade.. That's the Haki Path Divergence for Swordsmen aiming at the Pinnacle of Swordsmanship..


By the way you commenting helped me reach another level of understanding, thank you..

l hope everyone who reads this gets a nugget out of it..


Also in that same line of thought, Observation Killer would be a CoO based CoC application..
But wasnt it explained that CoC cant be trained, it is what it is, you cant have it better than you have... Zoro allready used advanced CoC like luffy on rooftop, it wont get any more powerfull, hes only left to train aCoA
 
But wasnt it explained that CoC cant be trained, it is what it is, you cant have it better than you have... Zoro allready used advanced CoC like luffy on rooftop, it wont get any more powerfull, hes only left to train aCoA
Sorry but he didn't use AdCoC.. That was the internal Destruction CoA version for Swordsmen alongside invisible base CoC..

And yes it can not be trained but as long as Zoro keeps walking down his path as a Swordsman he will achieve it because he lives
and dies by the Sword.. Just like he Awakened CoC he kept walking down his path, the WSS path..
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
Sorry but he didn't use AdCoC.. That was the internal Destruction CoA version for Swordsmen alongside invisible base CoC..

And yes it can not be trained but as long as Zoro keeps walking down his path as a Swordsman he will achieve it because he lives
and dies by the Sword.. Just like he Awakened CoC he kept walking down his path, the WSS path..
It looked clearly aCoC to me against King. but if im not getting it wrong didint he push himself from kings swords with it? I believe with CoC zoro is at its max if he has advanced form of it since it cant be trained to be stronger, zorofans could only hope that it wasnt advanced CoC but it clearly was
 
It looked clearly aCoC to me against King. but if im not getting it wrong didint he push himself from kings swords with it? I believe with CoC zoro is at its max if he has advanced form of it since it cant be trained to be stronger, zorofans could only hope that it wasnt advanced CoC but it clearly was
Let alone the pushing scene.. lf it was AdCoC, Dragon Damnation would not have touched(Shanks) either yet it did with
CoA Black lightning from a flying slash..
 
Next he's gonna say the attack that killed Luffy wasn't ACoC because it touched Luffy.
l guess you got nothing from this post..

You know Luffy is a special case, he's the main character who has to become a Haki Master and go through all the step for him to reach the top of the verse and beyond.. l'd argue Zoro and Sanji don't need to become Haki Masters, they need to find their Haki Niche.. Actually it's what Haki Swordsmanship is all about a specific Haki Niche..


Which Sanji will obviously be CoO related or CoC based CoO application.. Zoro will be CoA based CoC application which are the Black Blades.. And the more i've been talking about it the more apparent it's getting..

The thing with AdCoC is it is not a CoA based CoC application, it's a CoC based CoA application.. l hear you screaming and every Zoro fans - WHAT THE HELL lS THE DlFFERENCE! - .. Well that's where the Black Blades come in which are mostly going to be a CoA based CoC application and the best way i can picture it right now is CoC lnfusion or CoC Hardening on the Blade.. That's the Haki Path Divergence for Swordsmen aiming at the Pinnacle of Swordsmanship..
 
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