General & Others Why does no one ever talk about Law being defeated by Doffy? Someone 10 times if not 100 times weaker than Shanks.

[LadyVados]

I do all the time.

 

[Roo]

We are not talking about that, we are talking about how much they grow in time.

Once you learn haki growth is exponentially bigger. We literally witness that in the New World lol
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Someone that level isnt one Pu away from being peers to Katakuri.

Respect Law first.
Urouge himself beat YC4 Snack, and all Rooftop 5 are > Urouge.
Law was a Shichibukai even and Luffy was even stronger.

Law himself was probably YC3 as well. Robin pointed out the difference in Warlord strength

Also let's not forget Katakuri started taking Luffy serious once he realized how Luffy was able to beat his brother. The gap between the two isn't that big

 

[MagnetoEustassKidd]

There 2 months between Zou - The Raid on Onigashima. Plenty of time for Law to train

I agree that Oda should've be included some training panels, but we kinda have to use our brains here. What kind of moron would go and fight the World's strongest creature without prep?

In 2 months went 99% of that time was walking around Zou and Wano. Yeah sure he was training...

 

[ConquistadoR]

Law himself was probably YC3 as well. Robin pointed out the difference in Warlord strength

Also let's not forget Katakuri started taking Luffy serious once he realized how Luffy was able to beat his brother. The gap between the two isn't that big

Even Higher.
Smoothie cant even cut a ship using her Max Form slash. Whats she gonna do to Law? They werent weak, Law esp was a really Tricky Fighter like most Commanders so he can easily beat Cracker, Jack etc,.

G4 was even stronger. Upon seeing it Katakuri, Doflamingo, BM, Kaidou and even Kidd was stunned. It has really powerful Brute Spring Force.

See what happened to Queen with 2 BM slams and BM with Hardening ~ G4. There is no way in hell, Smoothie or Jack even survives 30 minutes of pure G4. Heck even Jozu/Queen are doubtful.

It is timelimited bcs it is powerful.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Law went onto fight and defeat big mom who can soul pocus diff Doffy

 

[ConquistadoR]

Law went onto fight and defeat big mom who can soul pocus diff Doffy

Fking Jinbe laughed at Soul Pocus.
Doflamingo is a Conqueror, you really think his will is that weak...

I doubt even Usopp will fall for that nonsense.

 

[Roo]

Even Higher.
Smoothie cant even cut a ship using her Max Form slash. Whats she gonna do to Law? They werent weak, Law esp was a really Tricky Fighter like most Commanders so he can easily beat Cracker, Jack etc,.

G4 was even stronger. Upon seeing it Katakuri, Doflamingo, BM, Kaidou and even Kidd was stunned. It has really powerful Brute Spring Force.

See what happened to Queen with 2 BM slams and BM with Hardening ~ G4. There is no way in hell, Smoothie or Jack even survives 30 minutes of pure G4. Heck even Jozu/Queen are doubtful.

It is timelimited bcs it is powerful.

Maybe I'm giving Smoothie a lot of credit, but I'd like to think she's capable of surviving 1 wave of G4.

Jack as well

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Fking Jinbe laughed at Soul Pocus.
.Doflamingo is a Conqueror, you really think his will is that weak..

Doffy had a nervous breakdown at the mention of Kaido

 

[ConquistadoR]

Jack as well

Jack is getting wrecked lol.
Katakuri with Superior Haki Defense was getting sent flying 100s of metres. Boundman is too powerful physically.

As i said, its like BM with Hardening hitting for 30 minutes, let alone Kong Organ, Kong Gatling and KKG f.ex., Kong Organ carries close to 30 Kong Guns within seconds...

Every one of them would've sent even Kata flying 100 metres... tf is Jack gonna do with his trunk? He isnt fast, he has to defend with his body. Smoothie as well, maybe even Queen/Jozu, they are simply fucked only King, Marco & Kata get by thanks to Hax
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Doffy had a nervous breakdown at the mention of Kaido

Yes and that doesnt help BM. She failed against Law while even Laws crew didnt fear her at the end. Doffy a Conqueror > that fodder.

 

[Roo]

Jack is getting wrecked lol.
Katakuri with Superior Haki Defense was getting sent flying 100s of metres. Boundman is too powerful physically.

As i said, its like BM with Hardening hitting for 30 minutes, let alone Kong Organ, Kong Gatling and KKG f.ex., Kong Organ carries close to 30 Kong Guns within seconds...

Every one of them would've sent even Kata flying 100 metres... tf is Jack gonna do with his trunk? He isnt fast, he has to defend with his body. Smoothie as well, maybe even Queen/Jozu, they are simply fucked only King, Marco & Kata get by thanks to Hax

bro jack's thing is endurance. He fought the minks rulers, then fought a sulong mink army +sulong dukes.

If luffy doesn't use KKG in the first round there's a high chance he can outlast the time limit

 

[ConquistadoR]

bro jack's thing is endurance. He fought the minks rulers, then fought a sulong mink army +sulong dukes.

If luffy doesn't use KKG in the first round there's a high chance he can outlast the time limit

He can slowly soften him up with G3 & G2, especially G3 punches before going G4.

Kong Organ, Kong Gatling and KKG ends it. Too Powerful.

 

[straightforward]

DD is YC1 level and his hax fruit would cut the likes of laido into pieces.

there's no shame in losing to him. also law was in distress as he's always worrying about his crew doing something stupid and that affects his performance

 

[Kiiro]

bro jack's thing is endurance. He fought the minks rulers, then fought a sulong mink army +sulong dukes.

If luffy doesn't use KKG in the first round there's a high chance he can outlast the time limit

What happened to that endurance at Wano? Defeated in less than 2 hours.

 

[Herrera95]

Let's go back to Luffy being defeated to Crocodile then. Let's go back to Luffy being defeated by Kid Ace and Kid Sabo. Let's go back to Luffy almost dying to Sea King that he one-shotted when he set sail first time.

Stupid thread.

 

[Kiiro]

Once you learn haki growth is exponentially bigger. We literally witness that in the New World lol
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Law himself was probably YC3 as well. Robin pointed out the difference in Warlord strength

Also let's not forget Katakuri started taking Luffy serious once he realized how Luffy was able to beat his brother. The gap between the two isn't that big

Once again, pure hypocrisy. Luffy knew haki since a long time ago, besides, nothing says haki grows exponentially with random fights and going from an island to an island...

And that has nothing to do with Law, Law haki didnt grow or wasnt stated from Dresrossa to Wano, pure headcanon.
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So you're saying Big Mom who was taking years off her lifespan, powering up, and feeling pain that she hadn't felt in forever, huffing and puffing so much she damn near needed an IV drip, is taking it easy?

Yea ok.... you're on that ssj copium deluxe.

Kidd ate her TB equivalent in Ikoku without any issues btw.

What is her TB equivalent?

 

[MagnetoEustassKidd]

There 2 months between Zou - The Raid on Onigashima. Plenty of time for Law to train

I agree that Oda should've be included some training panels, but we kinda have to use our brains here. What kind of moron would go and fight the World's strongest creature without prep?

Training against who lmao? Fodder? How is a raid training? That's the battle.

 

[Kiiro]

Training against who lmao? Fodder? How is a raid training? That's the battle.

Well, he did indeed train. But it seems it was his awakening, his base stats are mostly the same.

 

[Jailer]

- In 2v1 scenarios, one with Fuji which was especially unfair
- Other after Luffy sepparated Doffy and Trebol jumped on him
- Got much stronger since then

 

[Konstantis]

Why Hody put Luffy hight diff fight who in base was attacking Kaido?

Maybe Hody is Younko lvl?

 

[Weeman]

Even if we were to rate Doflamingo lower than the likes of Cracker and Jack, Law losing to him wouldn't really be relevant anymore due to what he has shown against Kaido and Big Mom already.