Spoiler One Piece Chapter 980 Spoilers Discussion

[nik87]

And we’re back to the nonsense about Zoro’s endurance being more than Luffy’s. Trash fanboys never stop here.

That is a fact from the start of the manga and it will remain until the end.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

It's not a "fight" if the people fighting don't know it's a fight and aren't prepared. That's just a sneak attack.

And I still give credit for sneak attacks (though obviously NOT = to a frontal attack). That was a strong attack. But I ain't putting him much more than a "YC3.5" like Dressrosa G2/G3 Luffy.

Apoo definitely is above g2 and g3 Luffy (without FS and adcoa)
Current g2/g3 Luffy ~ Apoo > G2/g3 Luffy

 

[sanjikun]

Are people still gonna push for Chopper vs. X-Drake? Hahahaha.

Apoo definitely is above g2 and g3 Luffy (without FS and adcoa)
Current g2/g3 Luffy ~ Apoo > G2/g3 Luffy

Nah. He ain't. It's just a sneak attack bro, and it landed CLEANLY. Luffy's Red Hawk probably does more damage.

You can't put FS/ACoA Luffy = Apoo. That's batshit insane. Luffy will one shot him.

 

[kurohime]

That is not what I meant, in the context of an observation Haki users ability to react to them, they have similar properties

Niether light nor sound are themselves not forms of matter. However, both light and sound either originate from matter or occur as a result of the interactions and movements of matter.

Hence if CoO can help you react to light, it can also help you react to sound. Vibrations doesn't hinder your ability to react to that, it only helps.

Or are you suggesting Apoo is a sole character in the entire show whose attacks are observation Haki proof, are you gonna grant Apoo that just so you can boost Luffy?

They might be, unless you are impervious to noise. Show me anyone that has dodged one of Apoo's attacks.... you can't because his abilities forces you to stop him from attacking all together. Once his attack let's off you can't dodge it.

You can only tank it... probably with CoA full body.

Unless you can prove otherwise?

 

[Taesthetic]

Zoro got hit cause of carrying out his captain not paying attention to his enemy

Reread the spoilers please, Zoro got his chest slashed before that the explosion hit Luffy.

 

[Rivaille]

Now the slash is superficial but earlier it was a "gaping hole" in the chest, what happened

 

[ShishioIsBack]

He took a bad hit and was bleeding out as he fainting... how would that have stopped if Hiyori wasn't around? Wounda like that don't stop bleeding on their own

Because not every wound that is bleeding bleeds you to the death. He passed out after he finished Killer and lost adrenaline rush, doesn't mean his wound would bleed him to death.

He wasn't even bleeding that much, you need to show me evidence of where it was stated that he would have bled to death if Hiyori didn't stop his bleeding.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

He took a bad hit and was bleeding out as he fainting... how would that have stopped if Hiyori wasn't around? Wounda like that don't stop bleeding on their own

What? Zoro was bleeding out vs Mr.1 took a little nap got up and ran around with Nami on his back. Zoro isn't normal

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Are people still gonna push for Chopper vs. X-Drake? Hahahaha.

Who are these imbecilic clowns?

 

[Shura]

Wait...what is happening in the poll??..

 

[Jo_Ndule]

All of these these expecting mid trio to solo Vets or even beat SNs should drop OP cause it is not happening

Mid trio will be Veteran tier when they fight Teach Pirates. Not in Wano

 

[T.D.A]

Except Zoro was out for hours and needed medical attention. Luffy would have been back up with or without Zoro running away with him. Luffy recovers far faster than Zoro

Luffy was left unconscious though, so between the time he was KO'd and he regained his consciousness, without Zoro to carry him, he could have been killed or permanently neutralised by Apoo or some random fodder.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Reread the spoilers please, Zoro got his chest slashed before that the explosion hit Luffy.

How?

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Reread the spoilers please, Zoro got his chest slashed before that the explosion hit Luffy.

Doesn't change the fact that Luffy's FS is trash and got incapacitated by garbage explosion while Zoro tanked an actual lethal slash to chest.

 

[MarineHQ]

The only thing that makes me happy with this chapter is to shut up some Luffy wankers who really started to go overboard with this dude. He still has to prove himself as a low top tier.

- FS, as we've seen, absolutely shit tier when it actually matters.
- CoA far inferior to old Ray, like, not even close.

Dude was two shotted by someone that wants to become a F6
:zorothink:

 

[Taesthetic]

Only because of the way i rank the supernova

Like i have luffy comparable to the top
Zoro middle (same area i put apoo)
And sanji even tho hes not one comparable to the lower ones

At least before the recent strawhat powerups which makes it more difficult imo to scale but eh i still have hope for the other supernova to grow aswell

Sanji is definitely better than Bege/Hawkins/Killer/Bonney

 

[Ravagerblade]

Your talking about dealing with infection. To stop bleeding you just need pressure and bandages

 

[Jrus]

Zoro got hit cause of carrying out his captain not paying attention to his enemy

Zoro literally said the he couldn't even see the slash.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Vista,Ace,Teach,marco Jozu. All should be yc4 or above. Also Oda has hyped the supernovas especially Apoo with his bounty and potrayal rivalry to Kid. The Dukes are not Yc3 level. They had rest and took turns and still couldn't put him down

Apoo going probably down before the flying six who even get more hype then him in the last chapter, do you think the flyers going down that easily down? Luffy a YC1 get knocked down for few seconds while Pero taking a far far far far far strong explosion(mountain range) and even losing his arm while still standing, does this mean now Pero>>>Luffy Endurance???
You first claim is wrong, you put for all the years Doffy on the top because he deal for few seconds with Luffy and Law, Apoo perform far a better feat against two Supernovas in sametime, is Apoo know a low top tier too?
This just show that the previous powerscaling gonna change soon and people should be prepare for this, because in last arc Oda do anything do downgrade/nerf the Big mom pirates, this time this aren´t gonna happen most like.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Luffy was left unconscious though, so between the time he was KO'd and he regained his consciousness, without Zoro to carry him, he could have been killed or permanently neutralised by Apoo or some random fodder.

:cheers: