General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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You're only giving me more blah blah bleh bleh about her "fighting power".
Randolph,as a Totto Land's Homie, is the type of Arc's enemy that isn't a real threat for Straw Hats and is always defeated of a different way,just like The Millions and Billions from Baroque Works and Gifters from Beasts Pirates. You're saying Carrot defeating him is a feat of the same level that Chopper defeating Wapol's two main henchmen fused in one and Frany defeating three CP9 agents and two Marine captains?
Homies aren't any threat for Chopper. He defeated easily a giant sized wild beast Homie.
Why you still saying that things as Homies are a threat for Usopp? You is so obssessed with the bullshit story of "Straw Hat Crew's trios" to the point of think Usopp not evolved nothing after be trained in a place as Boin Archipelago by a character as Heracles?
Didn't you learned anything with Oven vs Pekoms? One Piece Universe is whole of characters able of dispose Su Long Minks. It only takes advanced power and bright mind. Diamante and Dellinger are examples of it.
You're committing the crime of insult Chopper in my face. What make you think the idiot rabbit girl is above him in power?
-In his introduction arc,Chopper defeated the two main henchmen of the boss villain and corrupt king of his birthplace fused in one.
-In Alabasta Arc,his first adventure as Straw Hat Crew's member,he won a 2vs3 fight against members of a criminal syndicate with the control over a country,where he used greatly both power and mind.
-In his following adventures,he defeated a fighter from a Sky Island,a World Government's secret assasin,and a deceased giant character of legends revived with his captain's power in a team battle,and during the Time-Skip he decided train for became one of the best members of his crew.
Whatever the idiot rabbit girl did in the last two arcs for be comparable with all that?
And you say the idiot rabbit girl is above Usopp,is act like Usopp hadn't any development across the story. Is Carrot somehow powerful as Chew,Babe,Lassoo,Drophy and Oars? Is her somehow so dangerous as the things faced by Usopp in Boin Archipelago for grow stronger,or somehow a fighter of Heracles's level?
Randolph,as a Totto Land's Homie, is the type of Arc's enemy that isn't a real threat for Straw Hats and is always defeated of a different way,just like The Millions and Billions from Baroque Works and Gifters from Beasts Pirates. You're saying Carrot defeating him is a feat of the same level that Chopper defeating Wapol's two main henchmen fused in one and Frany defeating three CP9 agents and two Marine captains?
Homies aren't any threat for Chopper. He defeated easily a giant sized wild beast Homie.
Why you still saying that things as Homies are a threat for Usopp? You is so obssessed with the bullshit story of "Straw Hat Crew's trios" to the point of think Usopp not evolved nothing after be trained in a place as Boin Archipelago by a character as Heracles?
Didn't you learned anything with Oven vs Pekoms? One Piece Universe is whole of characters able of dispose Su Long Minks. It only takes advanced power and bright mind. Diamante and Dellinger are examples of it.
You're committing the crime of insult Chopper in my face. What make you think the idiot rabbit girl is above him in power?
-In his introduction arc,Chopper defeated the two main henchmen of the boss villain and corrupt king of his birthplace fused in one.
-In Alabasta Arc,his first adventure as Straw Hat Crew's member,he won a 2vs3 fight against members of a criminal syndicate with the control over a country,where he used greatly both power and mind.
-In his following adventures,he defeated a fighter from a Sky Island,a World Government's secret assasin,and a deceased giant character of legends revived with his captain's power in a team battle,and during the Time-Skip he decided train for became one of the best members of his crew.
Whatever the idiot rabbit girl did in the last two arcs for be comparable with all that?
And you say the idiot rabbit girl is above Usopp,is act like Usopp hadn't any development across the story. Is Carrot somehow powerful as Chew,Babe,Lassoo,Drophy and Oars? Is her somehow so dangerous as the things faced by Usopp in Boin Archipelago for grow stronger,or somehow a fighter of Heracles's level?
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So, nothing more than ridiculous assertions as an answer, as I expected. You have zero arguments to oppose to me.
Yes, she is stronger than Usopp, who is my favorite Strawhat, Nami and Chopper. She doesn't need Monster Point to deal with one homies. She doesn't need Mama's Vivre Card to be able to survive on Totto Land. And if she is fast enough to surprise an on his guard Zoro and hit him, then there is no way that Usopp, who couldn't even sense her arrival back on Zou, would be able to stop her from putting him out of commission very fast.
Sulong, when properly controlled and in effect (unlike what happened with Pekoms) is so fast and strong that even veterans pirates from Big Mom's crew couldn't touch her.
I don't know why you hate Carrot, and honestly, I don't care, but you're the perfect exemple of why haters like you have no real argument to oppose to her beyond "I don't like her".
You have no argument to explain to us why she is with the Strawhats currently when she could have returned to the background. You have no arguments to explain to us why she is more developped as a character than the Strawhats Grand Fleet Captains. And you have no arguments to present to us to say why she'd be weaker than the Weak Trio, when everything we have seen in the manga prove the contrary.
So, nothing more than ridiculous assertions as an answer, as I expected. You have zero arguments to oppose to me.
Yes, she is stronger than Usopp, who is my favorite Strawhat, Nami and Chopper. She doesn't need Monster Point to deal with one homies. She doesn't need Mama's Vivre Card to be able to survive on Totto Land. And if she is fast enough to surprise an on his guard Zoro and hit him, then there is no way that Usopp, who couldn't even sense her arrival back on Zou, would be able to stop her from putting him out of commission very fast.
Sulong, when properly controlled and in effect (unlike what happened with Pekoms) is so fast and strong that even veterans pirates from Big Mom's crew couldn't touch her.
I don't know why you hate Carrot, and honestly, I don't care, but you're the perfect exemple of why haters like you have no real argument to oppose to her beyond "I don't like her".
You have no argument to explain to us why she is with the Strawhats currently when she could have returned to the background. You have no arguments to explain to us why she is more developped as a character than the Strawhats Grand Fleet Captains. And you have no arguments to present to us to say why she'd be weaker than the Weak Trio, when everything we have seen in the manga prove the contrary.
You can make a stronger argument for Kin'emon - the dude's been travelling with the crew for 3x longer than Vivi did now
I'd actually love to see Kin'emon join though I doubt it - there's several reasons for this:
1. He's strong. Not mad strong like Luffy/Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe but he would comfortably fit 5th in the SH power hierarchy and what a crew challenging Yonko needs more than anything else is power
2. He's funny - every SH (except Jinbe) has some degree of humour in their character - he fits in
3. I think it would be cool to have a crew with Brook the Ice swordsman (1 sword), Kin'emon the Fire swordsman (2 swords) and Zoro the Wind swordsman (3 swords)
4. All Strawhats have nowhere to go when they join the crew:
- Zoro was an aimless bounty hunter with no way home
- Nami wanted to leave her home to achieve her goal of drawing a world map
- Usopp wanted to leave his home to achieve his goal of becoming a brave pirate
- Sanji wanted to leave his home to achieve his goal of finding the all-blue
- Chopper was rejected in his homeland and forced to leave
- Robin was a fugitive running from the World Government
- Franky was a fugitive running from the World Government
- Brook had no home or friends, he was lonely
- Jinbe is wanted by the World Government and therefore cant remain in Fishman Island
- Kin'emon's goal of reinstalling the Kozuki line would potentially displace him - afterall, a wanted fugitive/ex pirate cant protect Momonosuke. He might have to leave
5. It kinda bares some parallel to Oden. Kin'emon to me seems to be Oden's emulator as he models himself after Oden
6. Kin'emon's fruit fits the number-puns that Oda's been setting up for the crew (all DFs names can be interpreted into number pairs and with the addition of the Fuku Fuku no Mi, completes numbers 0-9 for the crew. Go, Mu, Hi, To, Fu, Ku, Ha, Na, So, Ru can all be assigned numbers)
7. He has incredible rapport with Brook, Luffy and Zoro already - usually crewmates have rapport with Luffy. Carrot, for example, is lacking in this
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I'd actually love to see Kin'emon join though I doubt it - there's several reasons for this:
1. He's strong. Not mad strong like Luffy/Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe but he would comfortably fit 5th in the SH power hierarchy and what a crew challenging Yonko needs more than anything else is power
2. He's funny - every SH (except Jinbe) has some degree of humour in their character - he fits in
3. I think it would be cool to have a crew with Brook the Ice swordsman (1 sword), Kin'emon the Fire swordsman (2 swords) and Zoro the Wind swordsman (3 swords)
4. All Strawhats have nowhere to go when they join the crew:
- Zoro was an aimless bounty hunter with no way home
- Nami wanted to leave her home to achieve her goal of drawing a world map
- Usopp wanted to leave his home to achieve his goal of becoming a brave pirate
- Sanji wanted to leave his home to achieve his goal of finding the all-blue
- Chopper was rejected in his homeland and forced to leave
- Robin was a fugitive running from the World Government
- Franky was a fugitive running from the World Government
- Brook had no home or friends, he was lonely
- Jinbe is wanted by the World Government and therefore cant remain in Fishman Island
- Kin'emon's goal of reinstalling the Kozuki line would potentially displace him - afterall, a wanted fugitive/ex pirate cant protect Momonosuke. He might have to leave
5. It kinda bares some parallel to Oden. Kin'emon to me seems to be Oden's emulator as he models himself after Oden
6. Kin'emon's fruit fits the number-puns that Oda's been setting up for the crew (all DFs names can be interpreted into number pairs and with the addition of the Fuku Fuku no Mi, completes numbers 0-9 for the crew. Go, Mu, Hi, To, Fu, Ku, Ha, Na, So, Ru can all be assigned numbers)
7. He has incredible rapport with Brook, Luffy and Zoro already - usually crewmates have rapport with Luffy. Carrot, for example, is lacking in this
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I don't see how Kin'emon would have nowhere to go.
He got a wife he hasn't seen in 20 years. He got a country he swore to protect, zero bounty so far (and even with the presence of Drake, the Marine wouldn't have any reason to place a bounty on his or any other Wano rebel, considering that they'd be fighting Kaido and Big Mom in their own country, which is unaffiliated to the WG) and Wano being isolated, even if he did... well, why would it affect him ?
Plus, he's clearly the retainer the closest to Momonosuke. I don't see him leaving the kid alone like that.
I like Kin'emon, but Oda really went out of his way to create reasons for him to stay on Wano.
He got a wife he hasn't seen in 20 years. He got a country he swore to protect, zero bounty so far (and even with the presence of Drake, the Marine wouldn't have any reason to place a bounty on his or any other Wano rebel, considering that they'd be fighting Kaido and Big Mom in their own country, which is unaffiliated to the WG) and Wano being isolated, even if he did... well, why would it affect him ?
Plus, he's clearly the retainer the closest to Momonosuke. I don't see him leaving the kid alone like that.
I like Kin'emon, but Oda really went out of his way to create reasons for him to stay on Wano.
I see many things that support and are against a Wano member will join the SH. The same with the minks.
Oda is a master in disguising hints and trolls with us a lot.
So to say I believe Momonosuke and the minks will join the Grand Fleet. Countries that have been saved by the SH will join the GF as well.
The mysterious power of Luffy has an excellent opportunity to make people like him. Momonosuke and his retainers will stay in Wano for a time and I believe the minks will too. Carrot has been a temporary SH like Vivi, but the loss of Pedro has gotten to her.
It doesn't matter how many people we have seen interact with Luffy and every time we see new ones brings us to conclude he or she is a SH material.
There is a character I believe can have a impact on Luffy that Luffy want to have on his ship.
"A beautiful lady swordsman just arrived with a ton of meat."
I believe this is the next SH.
But who could this be. I have tried to search who that could be.
Oda is a master in disguising hints and trolls with us a lot.
So to say I believe Momonosuke and the minks will join the Grand Fleet. Countries that have been saved by the SH will join the GF as well.
The mysterious power of Luffy has an excellent opportunity to make people like him. Momonosuke and his retainers will stay in Wano for a time and I believe the minks will too. Carrot has been a temporary SH like Vivi, but the loss of Pedro has gotten to her.
It doesn't matter how many people we have seen interact with Luffy and every time we see new ones brings us to conclude he or she is a SH material.
There is a character I believe can have a impact on Luffy that Luffy want to have on his ship.
"A beautiful lady swordsman just arrived with a ton of meat."
I believe this is the next SH.
But who could this be. I have tried to search who that could be.
I agree it's a push, but I just love the idea - he's probably my favourite character fullstop. He likely wont join but would definitely lead the Wano fleet of the SH grandfleet
However that being said, Nami, Franky, Chopper and Usopp technically still had ties to their homes despite their needed exit
Also, Kin'emon has a 50,000,000 bounty
However that being said, Nami, Franky, Chopper and Usopp technically still had ties to their homes despite their needed exit
Also, Kin'emon has a 50,000,000 bounty
I would say Tama will be more than a Nakama. Luffy will make her his sister. I have a theory about that. When Ace was leaving Wano, he told Tama that he will come back for her, it is not just Luffy who is going to free Wano but Sabo too. What I believe is Kuma sent the revolutionaries from Reverie to Wano using his ability, that is the reason why they can't make contact with Sabo. Hope he and other 3 commanders (along with Vivi?) show up in the Wano. Coz I don't think anyone other than Luffy can fight against a Yonko but Sabo, this will skyrocket both their bounties. At the end of the war, Luffy and Sabo will reveal to Tama that they are Ace's sworn brother and after a feel-good scene Luffy and Sabo will exchange sake with Tama :)
Even Zoro is acknowledging the next nakama
They're gunning for the One Piece - it's dangerous. They didn't take Aisa from Skypiea, who was arguably far more important than Tama for their respective arcs - it isn't happening
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