Break Week How was it advantageous for Mihawk to postpone?

[CbShadow]

Why do some people make things out to be so difficult?

The whole reason to postpone was to give Mihawk an opportunity to truly test Vista to see if he has the potential to become strong enough to challenge him in the future. Vista was WB strongest swordsman at the time so he expect him to be a strong swordsman. He just was not sure how strong since Vista never challenged him.

 

[The White Crane]

I commend your effort, but you’ve done nothing but say (only in more detail) the same thing that has already been said and I replied to.

Shall I repeat? Amplify?

It is Vista and not Mihawk that makes the comment and VISTA DOESNT KNOW ABOUT THE PLAN

lmfao

Vista doesn’t know about the plan and therefoee it doesn’t factor into his judgment when he says it’s advantageous for Mihawk. Not relevant. Comprendre lol

Is this really the best that the Mihawk camp has to offer?

An army of sheep bleating the same mindless, unimaginative junk, like a cacophony of mumbo jumbo that doesn’t end until you get tired and leave by attrition from hearing the same old hoary garbage over and over again

Pacifistas were gunning down everybody left and right. What they were doing was visible from all over Marineford. Vista did not know about the Marines' plan, but he certainly could logically surmise dueling anybody, let alone the WSS, when robots were lasering people all over the place is to neither of their advantages.

And, since this is the first time we talked to one another, don't get too overly familiar with me, especially by putting me in the Mihawk camp or acting like a dickwad by implying that I am somehow a sheep. You ain't nobody special, Edgelord.

 

[Fuyuppe]

He knows that he can't defeat Vista.

 

[Robin swan]

How would Vista know there was gonna be interference? He didn’t know about the wall encircling plan. Even if Mihawk was in on the plan and hence offered postponement, it’s Vista who concludes its advantageous, not Mihawk

it hasn’t got to do with that, but that was at least a good try , I’ll give you that

Because it's a war use common sense. If and when vista started getting hurt or looking like he might die his crew would help. Mihawk like the fight he would rather a 1 v 1 than a all out war.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Why do some people make things out to be so difficult?

The whole reason to postpone was to give Mihawk an opportunity to truly test Vista to see if he has the potential to become strong enough to challenge him in the future. Vista was WB strongest swordsman at the time so he expect him to be a strong swordsman. He just was not sure how strong since Vista never challenged him.

I am sorry but i disagree. One of Mihawk best highlighted trait is that he can measure people's Strength by simply looking at them. The whole "i want to measure the true distance between us and that man" was him testing it. And it only took him 1 strike to confirm.

Now before saying what about his extended fight with Luffy. By just reading his initial lines before he his attempts to go at Luffy. It is clear that he wasn't measuring how Strong Luffy is but how strong his plot armor was. Aka "Fate".

 

[Vandy]

@Vandy toughts?

My thoughts about what? How absurd it is that a dozen of you fail to answer a simple and straightforward question. Instead you divert the topic

But ok then, Big Mom vs Marco compared to Mihawk vs Vista

These are two different contexts, and Big Mom has entirely different character motivations to Mihawk let’s not forget.

Big Mom did for a fact outspeed Marco’s own ability to react, which allowed her to grab him and immobilise him by virtue of her much greater physical strength

Am I supposed to believe Big Mom can’t just chop Marco up with her sword? Does she need a soul to injure Marco when she in fact asked Perospero to execute him with his Candy arrows?

Do you hear how preposterous it sounds, to suggest she can only finish the job with souls, when Candy Arrows were enough to do the trick (logically under the strict condition that Big Mom has a hold on Marco and exerts some type of control to hypothetically remove his devil fruit regenerative ability).

The only Logical takeaway is that Big Mom definitely doesn’t need to use souls to finish of Marco, as there is an established physical power differential in terms of speed and physical strength that allows her to gain complete physical dominance over Marco, like we saw.

If at that point Candy Arrows can injure or even kill Marco, then why on earth won’t Big Mom be able to by simply coating her own fist or sword with advCoC kill Marco?

Does that make any goddamn sense to you?

Which is why from pure common sense and logic should tell you that there are DIFFERENT CHARACTER MOTIVATIONS at play and the situations are entirely different

Or maybe I’ve just been living under a rock all this time and didn’t realise Perospero’s Candy Arrows are more damaging than Big Mom coating her sword with AdvCoC

Or why doesn’t she just drown him in the nearest pool of water? Is that impossible for her somehow?

“needing souls against Marco” lmfao

This is so pathetic and nonsensical I’m at a loss for words

I’m really arguing against an army of sheep right now

 

[L55]

My thoughts about what? How absurd it is that a dozen of you fail to answer a simple and straightforward question. Instead you divert the topic

But ok then, Big Mom vs Marco compared to Mihawk vs Vista

These are two different contexts, and Big Mom has entirely different character motivations to Mihawk let’s not forget.

Big Mom did for a fact outspeed Marco’s own ability to react, which allowed her to grab him and immobilise him by virtue of her much greater physical strength

Am I supposed to believe Big Mom can’t just chop Marco up with her sword? Does she need a soul to injure Marco when she in fact asked Perospero to execute him with his Candy arrows?

Do you hear how preposterous it sounds, to suggest she can only finish the job with souls, when Candy Arrows were enough to do the trick (logically under the strict condition that Big Mom has a hold on Marco and exerts some type of control to hypothetically remove his devil fruit regenerative ability).

The only Logical takeaway is that Big Mom definitely doesn’t need to use souls to finish of Marco, as there is an established physical power differential in terms of speed and physical strength that allows her to gain complete physical dominance over Marco, like we saw.

If at that point Candy Arrows can injure or even kill Marco, then why on earth won’t Big Mom by coating her own fist or even sword with advCoC kill Marco?

Does that make any goddamn sense to you?

Which is why from pure common sense and logic should tell you that there are DIFFERENT CHARACTER MOTIVATIONS and the situations are entirely different

Or maybe I’ve just been living under a rock all this time and didn’t realise Perospero’s Candy Arrows are more damaging than Big Mom coating her sword with AdvCoC

Or why doesn’t she just drown him in the nearest pool of water? Is that impossible for her somehow?

“needing souls against Marco” lmfao

This is so pathetic and nonsensical I’m at a loss for words

I’m really arguing against an army of sheep right now

But bm needed perospero help
Yeah she grabbed marco yet she couldnt do anything more than just hold him
She begged perospero to join in then ran away
Also about the characters,since Mihawk was introduced his trait was that he s not a stupid brute to hunt a rabbit with a canon
Mihawk never saw vista as someone who could do something against him
Zoro will fight mihawk at eos meanwhile current zoro stomps vista

 

[SakazOuki]

meanwhile current zoro stomps vista

Ext diff for Wista

 

[L55]

Ext diff for Wista

 

[Vandy]

But bm needed perospero help
Yeah she grabbed marco yet she couldnt do anything more than just hold him
She begged perospero to join in then ran away
Also about the characters,since Mihawk was introduced his trait was that he s not a stupid brute to hunt a rabbit with a canon
Mihawk never saw vista as someone who could do something against him
He even run from krieg etc
Pointless fights

So BM doesn’t have a sword, she hasn’t got advCoC, she can’t just choke him or drown Marco?

Big Mom is entirely dependent on Candy Arrows

What in the actual fuck is this?

“Hunt a rabbit with a canon”

So all you can do is provide a bunch of phrases he told East Blue Zoro, that’s the level of dishonest cop-out junk arguments you got ?

Like a cacophony of shit, that’s what it’s like “arguing” with you people

 

[CbShadow]

My thoughts about what? How absurd it is that a dozen of you fail to answer a simple and straightforward question. Instead you divert the topic

But ok then, Big Mom vs Marco compared to Mihawk vs Vista

These are two different contexts, and Big Mom has entirely different character motivations to Mihawk let’s not forget.

Big Mom did for a fact outspeed Marco’s own ability to react, which allowed her to grab him and immobilise him by virtue of her much greater physical strength

Am I supposed to believe Big Mom can’t just chop Marco up with her sword? Does she need a soul to injure Marco when she in fact asked Perospero to execute him with his Candy arrows?

Do you hear how preposterous it sounds, to suggest she can only finish the job with souls, when Candy Arrows were enough to do the trick (logically under the strict condition that Big Mom has a hold on Marco and exerts some type of control to hypothetically remove his devil fruit regenerative ability).

The only Logical takeaway is that Big Mom definitely doesn’t need to use souls to finish of Marco, as there is an established physical power differential in terms of speed and physical strength that allows her to gain complete physical dominance over Marco, like we saw.

If at that point Candy Arrows can injure or even kill Marco, then why on earth won’t Big Mom be able to by simply coating her own fist or sword with advCoC kill Marco?

Does that make any goddamn sense to you?

Which is why from pure common sense and logic should tell you that there are DIFFERENT CHARACTER MOTIVATIONS at play and the situations are entirely different

Or maybe I’ve just been living under a rock all this time and didn’t realise Perospero’s Candy Arrows are more damaging than Big Mom coating her sword with AdvCoC

Or why doesn’t she just drown him in the nearest pool of water? Is that impossible for her somehow?

“needing souls against Marco” lmfao

This is so pathetic and nonsensical I’m at a loss for words

I’m really arguing against an army of sheep right now

Pathetic.

Big Mom acknowledged she didn't have the power to beat Marco and ran away.

 

[L55]

So BM doesn’t have a sword, she hasn’t got advCoC, she can’t just choke him or drown Marco?

Big Mom is entirely dependent on Candy Arrows

Yeah she has them yet she said she doesnt have enough souls to fight marco lmfao
Basically adminting inferiority in her current state
Marco obliterated prometheus and she ran way

What in the actual fuck is this?

“Hunt a rabbit with a canon”

Oh sorry reading is hard lemme explain
Mihawk means he s not the type to go all out on fodders :cheers:

 

[Artem]

No one from the Mihawk camp dont seem to want to answer this one even though the question really begs to be asked. Why, don’t you have faith that you can provide a satisfactory answer to save face for Mihawk? Do you want to keep your dream alive a little longer is that it, lol ?

When Vista tells Mihawk with a great smirk on his face that a postponement would be advantageous for both, what does that mean for Mihawk?

Postponement is of course advantageous for Vista in the sense that he isn’t bogged down too long by Mihawk, and can move ahead with his comrades in his rescuing mission

A Postponement is advantageous for Mihawk because why exactly?

Probably because he doesn’t get to lose, and he can take a breather and he can keep his title without losing it on a worldwide video stream for the world to see. Probably that’s why lol

Or is that not it? Ok in what sense then was it advantageous for Mihawk to offer a postponement lol because I’m dying to hear this one

probably because Jimbei won two fights out of two against Bm and threw it across the sea and onigashima?

 

[Vandy]

Yeah she has them yet she said she doesnt have enough souls to fight marco lmfao
Basically adminting inferiority in her current state
Marco obliterated prometheus and she ran way

Yeah I get it

Candy Arrows > Big Mom

Big Mom is helpless against Marco she moments ago outblitzed and then gained complete physical dominion over with one hand.

What are you going for genius, the Pulitzer Award?

Oh I’m done here, you guys really are worthless

 

[L55]

Yeah I get it

Candy Arrows > Big Mom

Big Mom is helpless against Marco she moments ago outblitzed and then gained complete physical dominion over with one hand.

What are you going for genius, the Pulitzer Award?

Oh I’m done here, you guys really are worthless

Just because she grabbed him once doesnt mean she can win lol

 

[Erkan12]

My thoughts about what? How absurd it is that a dozen of you fail to answer a simple and straightforward question. Instead you divert the topic

But ok then, Big Mom vs Marco compared to Mihawk vs Vista

These are two different contexts, and Big Mom has entirely different character motivations to Mihawk let’s not forget.

Big Mom did for a fact outspeed Marco’s own ability to react, which allowed her to grab him and immobilise him by virtue of her much greater physical strength

Am I supposed to believe Big Mom can’t just chop Marco up with her sword? Does she need a soul to injure Marco when she in fact asked Perospero to execute him with his Candy arrows?

Do you hear how preposterous it sounds, to suggest she can only finish the job with souls, when Candy Arrows were enough to do the trick (logically under the strict condition that Big Mom has a hold on Marco and exerts some type of control to hypothetically remove his devil fruit regenerative ability).

The only Logical takeaway is that Big Mom definitely doesn’t need to use souls to finish of Marco, as there is an established physical power differential in terms of speed and physical strength that allows her to gain complete physical dominance over Marco, like we saw.

If at that point Candy Arrows can injure or even kill Marco, then why on earth won’t Big Mom be able to by simply coating her own fist or sword with advCoC kill Marco?

Does that make any goddamn sense to you?

Which is why from pure common sense and logic should tell you that there are DIFFERENT CHARACTER MOTIVATIONS at play and the situations are entirely different

Or maybe I’ve just been living under a rock all this time and didn’t realise Perospero’s Candy Arrows are more damaging than Big Mom coating her sword with AdvCoC

Or why doesn’t she just drown him in the nearest pool of water? Is that impossible for her somehow?

“needing souls against Marco” lmfao

This is so pathetic and nonsensical I’m at a loss for words

I’m really arguing against an army of sheep right now

Marco > Vista
Big Mom > Mihawk

Its that simple.

 

[L55]

Marco > Vista
Big Mom > Mihawk

Its that simple.

Ran away from a mere yc that s inferior to king who zoro beat
Zoro=mihawk s student and still not closer to mihawk level

 

[Erkan12]

The issue with this scene was always how casual Vista was. We know Mihawk was putting in no effort in the war but Oda really didn't have to portray that fight like Vista was also putting in minimal effort. The smile, lack of visible exertion, and even the dialogue like you pointed out, makes it look like a low diff is impossible.

Just a head scratcher to this day.

Marco was casual vs. Big Mom as well.

Marco > Vista.
Big Mom the Great Pirate > Mihawk the Pirate.

 

[Artem]

Marco was casual vs. Big Mom as well.

Marco > Vista.
Big Mom the Great Pirate > Mihawk the Pirate.

jimbei>bm on manga

 

[Erkan12]

jimbei>bm on manga

Maybe you need a brain surgery for being a zkk fan, Jinbe never clashed with Big mom 1 v 1, he cheapshotted her from behind with other SH Pirates.