Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1083 Spoilers Discussion

Which Holy knight is your fav ?


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It sounds wrong considering it didn't look like he has gotten hit once by Sabo (Sabo was bruised and huffing but Fujitora looking fine the whole thing) who was >> Karasu
Maybe as a logia Karasu has huge AOE making it hard to dodge/protect. Maybe he was doing something else
His fight against Sabo looked more like a facade ,Fujitora wanted Luffy to bring down Doffy so his plan of abolishing the warlord system would get a huge boost.
Sabo as well didn‘t get hurt in Dressrosa ,implies both where not really serious during the clash .


You could be right about Karasau‘s power, if he maybe is able to coat his attacks with CoA in that size it is dangerous for everyone.

Nonetheless even Top Tiers aren‘t save from taking damage from an capable fighter .
It was shown time and time again.
Imo taking damage doesn‘t really take away from someones portrayal/status.
Doffy portrayed Fuji and GB as Monsters as well ,and Doffy is very familiar with the Yonkos .
So this speaks Volumes.
 
People saying there's a man with a cowboy silhouette but what if the hat is actually Mihawk's and Snitch and Midfraud have been holy knights thus whole time
Thats just some asscannon. Unless they are good double agents, the story doesn't match what the rumors are saying.
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sanji can push luffy to extreme diff
Shaddup with your asscannon.
 
Opposite situation of Ba Sing Se? Instead of pretending everything is great to control the situation you create a false sense of need by allowing pirates to roam free.

When Whitebeard died it not only created the perception for the general public that a great evil was dead but also destabilized the pirate hierarchy causing more chaos allowing the WG and marines to appear to be in greater need.
that's totally a headcanon, we didn't see the Gorosei speaking about anything like that.

what we saw is that Shanks was able to enter Mary Geoise without anyone noticing him or trying to stop him , then he speak to Gorosei and they listened to him.
they even sent their CP0 to negotiate with likes of Orochi to sell them weapons, imagine these guys needing weapons from Orochi, while they have their Holy knights. not only this, but Orochi was actually threatening them, because Kaido was backing him up.
Rocks D Xebec was trying to become the king of the world, he attacked an important place for WG, celestial dragons were there as well, he knows what should he do to become the world king, he literally wanted to set on the empty throne, someone like him must have the knowledge about the Holy knights, yet he challenged the World Government.
finally if these Knights were stronger than the Yonko, how will Dragon ever dream of beating them??
 
You literally can't stop headcannons, and no i don't buy headcannons i only rely on Manga fact and YOU did talked about the plot.

Anti-Admiral can't debate without headcannons :steef:
While pro admirals can't debate without Headcanon or pure assumptions based on bad reading comprehension and ignoring context.

Admiral stans are a bunch of Hypocrites.

They say:

"Admirals are stronger than Revos, they are holding back."

Same Admiraltards ignore context that Yamato was heavily holding back and not even fighting and nothing says Greenbull is stronger than her.

She have better feats than him, she is stronger than him, Base Yamato nerfed by Sea stone handcuffeds did better than Greenbull did vs Morley, she 1 v 1 and matched to Acoa G2/G3 Luffy, Greenbum couldn't even hurt or deal any damage to Morley, since is canon Morley took no damage since Morley is shown in Kamabaka Kingdom having no injury or Bandage.
 
Pica > Dressrosa Law aswell???

King =Base Kaido??

Yamato 1 v 1 Acoc Hybrid Kaido and didn't loose, Base Kaido alone would low diff King faster than King of hell Zoro did beat King, Yamato > Acoc Luffy chapter 1010 >>> King
King is more durable than Kaido, Yamato ain’t doing shit to him
Base Kaido would need a shit ton to time to take down King. His hybrid Ragnarok was no sold by base Luffy, and King is far more durable than that.
 
Pica > Dressrosa Law aswell???

King =Base Kaido??

Yamato 1 v 1 Acoc Hybrid Kaido and didn't loose, Base Kaido alone would low diff King faster than King of hell Zoro did beat King, Yamato > Acoc Luffy chapter 1010 >>> King
Kaido is not low diff a character (King) who's harder to damage than himself. Current G4 Luffy can't hurt a seraphim. A weaker rooftop G4 Luffy could hurt Kaido.
 
that's totally a headcanon, we didn't see the Gorosei speaking about anything like that.

what we saw is that Shanks was able to enter Mary Geoise without anyone noticing him or trying to stop him , then he speak to Gorosei and they listened to him.
they even sent their CP0 to negotiate with likes of Orochi to sell them weapons, imagine these guys needing weapons from Orochi, while they have their Holy knights. not only this, but Orochi was actually threatening them, because Kaido was backing him up.
Rocks D Xebec was trying to become the king of the world, he attacked an important place for WG, celestial dragons were there as well, he knows what should he do to become the world king, he literally wanted to set on the empty throne, someone like him must have the knowledge about the Holy knights, yet he challenged the World Government.
finally if these Knights were stronger than the Yonko, how will Dragon ever dream of beating them??
I'm sure the holy knights will be the numbers of the final war
 
While pro admirals can't debate without Headcanon or pure assumptions based on bad reading comprehension and ignoring context.

Admiral stans are a bunch of Hypocrites.

They say:

"Admirals are stronger than Revos, they are holding back."

Same Admiraltards ignore context that Yamato was heavily holding back and not even fighting and nothing says Greenbull is stronger than her.

She have better feats than him, she is stronger than him, Base Yamato nerfed by Sea stone handcuffeds did better than Greenbull did vs Morley, she 1 v 1 and matched to Acoa G2/G3 Luffy, Greenbum couldn't even hurt or deal any damage to Morley, since is canon Morley took no damage since Morley is shown in Kamabaka Kingdom having no injury or Bandage.
stop being stupid, Yamato is equal with King, she didnt fight just to not lose against Greenbull, retarded, Yamato top tier? just in your fucking ass.
 
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That part with the CoO from Fujitora wondered me as well ,i mean he could protect himself with CoA at least .
With such a powerful CoO he should see where he gets hit before with futuresight and take countermeasures against Karasu‘s attack .
That part with the CoO from Fujitora wondered me as well ,i mean he could protect himself with CoA at least .
Yes, however, this only reinforces that Fujitora is not all that with his CoO, unfortunately. His reaction seems to be slow as well. People attributed the fact that he was able to pull a meteor from space with his DF ability as being a talent of CoO, the same for the debris in DR, but now that seems ridiculous, or even insinuating that this guy, due to being blind, possesses a superior CoO to other characters...

Characters at the level of Karasu can already harm him, so another TOP TIER will not have difficulty doing the same, especially Kaidou, Shanks, and Luffy, who have a better CoO than Fujitora.
 
King is more durable than Kaido, Yamato ain’t doing shit to him
Base Kaido needs would need a shit ton if time to take down King. His hybrid Ragnarok was no sold by base Luffy, and King is far more durable than that.
I am not debating Durability, I am debating overall strength, Kaido is low diffing King while just being in Base, fighting Kaido >>> fighting King, someone who isn't stronger won't last 10 seconds vs Acoc Base Kaido, Yamato lasted minutes and didn't loose vs Acoc Hybrid Kaido.

Luffy have Acoc who king doesn't have, Acoa or Acoc is hurting King destroying him, she have Acoc and was trading blows with Kaido who is stronger faster and better than King.
 
Kaido is not low diff a character (King) who's harder to damage than himself. Current G4 Luffy can't hurt a seraphim. A weaker rooftop G4 Luffy could hurt Kaido.
Luffy as yet to use any Advance haki on any seraphim, plot is nerfing Luffy not allowing him use his abilities just so the arc prolongues.
 
I am not debating Durability, I am debating overall strength, Kaido is low diffing King while just being in Base, fighting Kaido >>> fighting King, someone who isn't stronger won't last 10 seconds vs Acoc Base Kaido, Yamato lasted minutes and didn't loose vs Acoc Hybrid Kaido.

Luffy have Acoc who king doesn't have, Acoa or Acoc is hurting King destroying him, she have Acoc and was trading blows with Kaido who is stronger faster and better than King.
Yamato doesn’t have enough AP to damage King that’s the thing.
Even Kaido has shit AP, King would tank all the shit he threw at Luffy
 
stop being stupid, Yamato is equal with King, she didnt fight just to not lose against Greenbull, retarded, Yamato top tier? just in your fucking ass.
When King shows he can 1 v 1 a Yonkou you can talk back to me, because to this day he showed he can't when he got defeated by Zoro who have far weaker Acoc than that of Kaido. Yamato is Destroying in ass as fast or faster than Acoc Zoro did, she 1 v 1 Hybrid Kaido who is much stronger than King and she didn't loose
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Yamato doesn’t have enough AP to damage King that’s the thing.
Even Kaido has shit AP, King would tank all the shit he threw at Luffy
Your headcanon, Acoc or ACoa mad hurts him, she was blocking and matching to Acoc Blows or Hybrid Kaido, Hybrid kaido acoc blows >>> Koh Zoro Acoc blows, King lost for 3 or 4 Acoc blows, plus never showed speed that can blitz Futuresight users like how Kaido showed, and Yamato matched in speed to Hybrid kaido Thunder bagua, his fastest move of his V1 Hybrid form. She is destroying King
 
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