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Is Luffy an AdvCoC user


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#1
One Piece "Theories" have always been more or less a waste of time and generally false., with very few, extremely rare occasions when a theory turns out to be true. The most recent one being @Monkey D Theories predicting Gorosei member coming to the Egg head Island. But one thing that can be said about One Piece theorization is that it points towards head canon, it predicts an occurrence that might happen in the future.

But @Rootbeer is the pioneer of new form of One Piece theory methodology, in which you deny the actual occurrence in manga, something that has been established as a Fact in the narrative, and basically deny reality.

We will call this approach to One Piece theory, The Flat Earth Approach as believing Earth is Flat is the most common form of reality denial.
A general template to the The Flat Earth Approach would go like this, and this is an 8 Step Approach.

Create an Arbitrary Criteria that has not been established in Manga - CoC is not Zoro's Haki specialty
A little bit more Arbitrary Criteria - He just unlocked CoC
Random Bullshit that has actually been Contradicted in Manga- AdCoC does not make people pass out, Base CoC does
Straight up Contradict Manga - AdCoC does '' not touch '', Zoro KoH do '' touch ''
WTF does this even mean lmao : At this step just make some shit up - Zoro's Haki trails in KoH are permanently stable, AdCoC trails are charging up and discharging, come and go
Use the Path Argument in your favor- Swordsman Haki path differs from Pirate Haki path
Grasp at Straws - Zoro's Haki trails colors are not Red, therefore not AdCoC

Well let me use that 8 Step Approach to formulate my own One Piece theory based on the Flat Earth Approach

ARBITARY CRITERIA # 1
Luffy is not a weapon user, Weapon users are the only Users that have advCoC


Lets trace the manga chronologically, and find out that Weapon Users (Majority of whom being swordsmen) are the only ones who can use AdvCoC

Roger and Whitebeard introduce AdvCoC both weapon user
Zoro and Oden are AdvCoC users who are Samurai like swordsmen
Shanks and Rayleigh are AdvCoC users who are Swordsmen
Kaido is a weapon user

What does this tell us guys??
Only weapon users can use advCoC

ARBITARY CRITERIA # 2
Rayleigh is an advCoC user, Rayleigh never told Luffy about advCoC because he saw that Luffy is not capable of unlocking advCoC.

Luffy trained with AdvCoC Master, one of the greatest AdvCoC users of all time and Rayleigh never bothered mentioning AdvCoC to Luffy despite it being such an important power in the World of One piece.

That proves that Luffy doesn't have advCoC

RANDOM BULLSHIT
AdvCoC doesn't make people pass out, Base CoC does
We saw how many people passed out from Luffy using his Base CoC in Wano after unlocking Gear 5th. Clearly if he was an advCoC user no one would pass out.

CONTRADICTING MANGA
Actually advCoC touches, Luffy does no touch

Check out thee advCoC attacks, they all touch



Since Luffy's attacks don't touch, that is advCoA which makes sense since Luffy said AdvCoA that Hyogoro taught him allows him to beat people without touching them..

WTF does this even mean lmao : At this step just make some shit up
Luffy's own Haki trails are too small, AdvCoC Haki trials are too long. Luffy can only get long trails when he is clashing with someone and that is the quality of Base CoC. AdvCoC trails have to be very very long, extremely Long

Luffy also hasn't shown reverse kame hame Ha which is integral component of AdvCoC


THE PATH ARGUMENT
AdvCoC is weapon user's path and Luffy is a Brawler
A Brawler like Luffy and Garp use No Touch which is Advanced Ryou as Luffy described and Garp even made that weird bubble that is clearly Ryou

Grasp at Straws
Luffy hasn't shown long advCoC trails so no advCoC

Guys instead of disrespecting Rootbear, understand where he is coming from, give him your own flat earth narratives rather than arguing him in simplistic manners.

Mods better not move my thread to Ground Floor unless they are willing to move every single @Rootbeer thread to Ground Floor as well, otherwise I will just copy paste it in manga section again anyways.


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#3
ARBITARY CRITERIA # 1
Luffy is not a weapon user, Weapon users are the only Users that have advCoC


Lets trace the manga chronologically, and find out that Weapon Users (Majority of whom being swordsmen) are the only ones who can use AdvCoC

Roger and Whitebeard introduce AdvCoC both weapon user
Zoro and Oden are AdvCoC users who are Samurai like swordsmen
Shanks and Rayleigh are AdvCoC users who are Swordsmen
Kaido is a weapon user


What does this tell us guys??
Only weapon users can use advCoC
Big Mom used AdCoC with her bare hand on chapter 1011..


Create an Arbitrary Criteria that has not been established in Manga - CoC is not Zoro's Haki specialty
It's mentioned in a SbS that Zoro's specialty is CoA, therefore it's not CoC.. Therefore he can't get 2 CoC level back to back..


Random Bullshit that has actually been Contradicted in Manga- AdCoC does not make people pass out, Base CoC does
Most of the time, it doesn't because CoC is not in it's base wave form anymore when channeled in AdCoC, it's condensed and not projected outward..

Straight up Contradict Manga - AdCoC does '' not touch '', Zoro KoH do '' touch ''
It only contradicts if you focus on evidences that are irrelevant in the story's context..


WTF does this even mean lmao : At this step just make some shit up - Zoro's Haki trails in KoH are permanently stable, AdCoC trails are charging up and discharging, come and go
When Enma is activated and KoH is ready to be used, the Green Smoke and Black Lightning comming out of Zoro's swords are constant..
AdCoC Haki trails are never constant, the user charges up and discharges, it manifest itself then goes..


CONTRADICTING MANGA
Actually advCoC touches, Luffy does no touch


Check out thee advCoC attacks, they all touch
Roger's Kamusari touched Oden and sent him flying.. What are you on about..

Red and Black lightning is comfirmed in the manga to be only CoA..
 
#4
Big Mom used AdCoC with her bare hand on chapter 1011..
She's not an advCoC user
That's why she was never able to use it on her weapon and she lost to Kidd and Law
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Red and Black lightning is comfirmed in the manga to be only CoA..
Manga comes in Black and white
Rest is non canon
 
#6
It's mentioned in a SbS that Zoro's specialty is CoA, therefore it's not CoC.. Therefore he can't get 2 CoC level back to back
It was mentioned Luffy's specialty is CoC yet he has advCoA??
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Deflecting, she used AdCoC on chapter 1011 to one shot Page1..
No
That's Base CoC + AdvCoA
Only weapon users can use advCoC
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Roger's Kamusari touched Oden and sent him flying.. What are you on about..
Which is why its an advCoC attack
Every advCoC attack touches
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#9
It was mentioned Luffy's specialty is CoC yet he has advCoA??
He had a whole training arc for that..

No
That's Base CoC + AdvCoA
Only weapon users can use advCoC
That's what the new Haki sword technique do..

You can deny all you want, Big Mom used AdCoC to defeat PageOne.. She's not touching and the Haki trails converging as she's pressuring space ahead..
 
#14
It only contradicts if you focus on evidences that are irrelevant in the story's context..
"evidences that are irrelevant"

You're killing me:risitameh::risitameh::risitameh: @Mr. Reloaded the next trial is for him:ihaha::ihaha::ihaha::ihaha:
When Enma is activated and KoH is ready to be used, the Green Smoke and Black Lightning comming out of Zoro's swords are constant..
Anime scaling 🤣🤣🤣
 
#15
You can deny all you want, Big Mom used AdCoC to defeat PageOne.. She's not touching and the Haki trails converging as she's pressuring space ahead
You can deny all you want categorically false as it has been confirmed in manga that all no touch attacks are advCoA and only weapon users can use advCoC

So as someone on Brawler path and not World's strongest+Weapon user path..it is impossible for Luffy to have advCoC
 
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