Questions & Mysteries Wtf happened to Tank Man?
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This is why I don't bother with debating Luffy fights. Every serious battle that he's in turns into a gag battle to make it believable that he can win. Why can't we have fights where he wins on his own established merits instead of being laced up with the most obvious plot armour and then pulling some random move out of his ass.
Reason it's annoying is because once Luffy beats them, Oda portrays him as equals or stronger than them (either through bounty or in his next fight). But he shouldn't be portrayed this way when he only beat them through multiple layers of plot armour and pulling some random move out of his ass.
Reason it's annoying is because once Luffy beats them, Oda portrays him as equals or stronger than them (either through bounty or in his next fight). But he shouldn't be portrayed this way when he only beat them through multiple layers of plot armour and pulling some random move out of his ass.
Which is false. Cracker's character shows his true nature. He admitted to hide like 100% of his life in his biscuit soldier, reason WG doesnt even know his true face. He admitted he is a glasscanon, that even a small cut will make him cry in pain.
Do you really think that a Guy with that description would fight Luffy directly?
Cracker's whole strategy relied on to wait for the perfect moment to do his moves while using his biscuit as defense, bad for him that Luffy didnt gave him the opportunity.
He had luck to give Luffy 2 hits in 11 hours. Cracker aint weak for sure, but it is time to admit he is an opportunistic. So it aint induced stupidity since he never said he fights directly and always waits for a opening.
Cracker so called "weakness" was never a factor in the fight. For the remainder of the fight after his initial biscuit was broken in half he fought outside his biscuits. And not only was being crushed by the sheer initial pressure of Tankman expelling him out from his Hardened fat folds, but he also flew through 3 of his own crackers, each of which individually needing the power of Kong Gun to be taken out, and this was after 11 hours of straight fighting.
Why does it matter whether or not a combatant fights directly? If the strategy works there's no reason to deviate from it. And honestly the fight shouldn't of even lasted that long as Luffy would be utterly hopeless after his G4 form runs out after 30 minutes of usage as he shouldn't be capable of using haki at all, and het would get utterly humiliated in his fodder base form just as he did at the start of the fight when he needed G4 to get out from under Cracker. But because Oda was there to block Cracker's golden ticket to victory with plot, Cracker wasn't allowed to capitalize on G4's drawback, where Luffy would be unable to protect Nami, especially when he became fat as fuck. And even after all this nonsense Cracker could of still won the fight if he simply coated his blade in Hardening to poke a hole in the balloon, but for some inane reason he chose not to.
That thick ass plot armor Oda likes to equip Luffy with way too much and the plot induced stupidity that Cracker was a victim of made Cracker throw the fight and give Luffy an unearned win.
Why does it matter whether or not a combatant fights directly? If the strategy works there's no reason to deviate from it. And honestly the fight shouldn't of even lasted that long as Luffy would be utterly hopeless after his G4 form runs out after 30 minutes of usage as he shouldn't be capable of using haki at all, and het would get utterly humiliated in his fodder base form just as he did at the start of the fight when he needed G4 to get out from under Cracker. But because Oda was there to block Cracker's golden ticket to victory with plot, Cracker wasn't allowed to capitalize on G4's drawback, where Luffy would be unable to protect Nami, especially when he became fat as fuck. And even after all this nonsense Cracker could of still won the fight if he simply coated his blade in Hardening to poke a hole in the balloon, but for some inane reason he chose not to.
That thick ass plot armor Oda likes to equip Luffy with way too much and the plot induced stupidity that Cracker was a victim of made Cracker throw the fight and give Luffy an unearned win.
1.- You have plenty things wrong. You speak of stupidity induced to Cracker... what about Luffy? Luffy had the real nerf, Cracker was just a 1 shot material.... Oda even called the fight as " Luffy's will to eat vs 800 million threat pirate"... yeah, Oda just said that Cracker's is just worth Luffy eating...
2.- His bicuits are hard with haki, higher than Gear 3, but with no haki they are weaker, maybe even Gear 2 can break them. Hard to know, but what we do know is that Bound Man broke them casually.
3.- Luffy manage to escape Katakuri... escaping Cracker after Bound Man doesnt make him hopeless, Oda even pointed how he ran, fought, ate all those 11 hours and Cracker couldnt do anything more than just wait for the perfect moment.
4.- I am not saying Cracker is weak, I am just pointing out his weakeness and how ridiculous was the fight, it was Luffy who was nerfed and never in real danger, Cracker did better holding off Luffy than what Doflamingo did.
But it doesn't make logical sense. Oda never explained how between times when Luffy's recovering his Haki and stamina from Gear 4th was able to hold off Cracker and his biscuit soldiers when before Cracker easily overwhelmed a pretty fresh Non-G4 Luffy with Haki. It's on Oda as a writer to make a reasonable explanation why Cracker wasn't able to win once Luffy ran out of G4.
Nope. Even without Haki from Cracker, his biscuit soldiers were able to hold off a Kong Organ comfortably enough to put G4 on the backfoot. G2 isn't doing anything to a biscuit soldier.
He had Brulee with him, which allowed him to escape the Mirror World whenever he wanted, leaving Katakuri stuck in the dimension. There's no such means of escape for Luffy against Cracker, and even then there are a lot of problems with the Katakuri fight that Oda written in to gift Luffy his 2nd undeserved W in WCI, but I digress.
If anything Luffy was buffed as not only did he have Nami to aid him in the fight, but also the whole forest thanks to Nami having Big Mom's Vivre Card, so it was a 1 v 3000 in Luffy's favor. In retrospect I realized that Nami was hard carrying Luffy's ass that whole fight, and even with such massive help the fight still came down to Cracker not using Hardening on his blade when he went to stab Tankman Luffy because plot. I don't see how you can take away that Luffy was nerfed in anyway in his fight againast Cracker.
Nope. Even without Haki from Cracker, his biscuit soldiers were able to hold off a Kong Organ comfortably enough to put G4 on the backfoot. G2 isn't doing anything to a biscuit soldier.
He had Brulee with him, which allowed him to escape the Mirror World whenever he wanted, leaving Katakuri stuck in the dimension. There's no such means of escape for Luffy against Cracker, and even then there are a lot of problems with the Katakuri fight that Oda written in to gift Luffy his 2nd undeserved W in WCI, but I digress.
If anything Luffy was buffed as not only did he have Nami to aid him in the fight, but also the whole forest thanks to Nami having Big Mom's Vivre Card, so it was a 1 v 3000 in Luffy's favor. In retrospect I realized that Nami was hard carrying Luffy's ass that whole fight, and even with such massive help the fight still came down to Cracker not using Hardening on his blade when he went to stab Tankman Luffy because plot. I don't see how you can take away that Luffy was nerfed in anyway in his fight againast Cracker.
1.- Luffy used just once Bound Man against Cracker, once Luffy failed to bypass his defense, no reason to use the same strategy, if we use Anime to show us how the battle went, after Bound Man, Luffy found Nami and she instantly used her rain against those cookies. Luffy is still able to run at full speed after bound Man if he doesnt have damage.
2.- Kong Organ might be the weakest attack Luffy has in a single hit... I mean, due the speed Luffy needs in Kong Organ, he wont be able to use full power at his punches yet they are still strong in multiple attacks. But you have 1 thing wrong, Luffy was breaking them like butter. A single Kong Gun broke the full soldier and an attack of Cracker:
3.- Well, you do realize that Cracker didnt chase Luffy? Cracker stood behind his Biscuits, act as if Cracker would directly go against Luffy without his shields.
Luffy can out run that Cracker much easier than what he did against Katakuri, he even ran away Big Mom and multiple veterans while carrying Bruelee.
As I said, Cracker's best strategy was to wait for the perfect moment, aka Oda said 800 threat vs Luffy's will to eat:
4.- Nami helping Luffy is the bigget excuse for Cracker's huge L. I would rather say that Cracker failed badly to take down even Nami which directly was weaking him, but did he change? Nothing, he kept the same strategy to use his useless Biscuits. Talk about induced stupidity, I wonder how did it took Luffy 11 hours to win when Cracker's DF was negged... as I SAID, it was Luffy who had this stupidity induced.
Wet those biscuits once, use Bound Man and get through them and hit Cracker once is all what was needed, but Oda chose 11 hours so Luffy and Sanji could meet..... wow.
