Nope, I’m not saying Usopp is useless.
I’m laughing at your continued absolutely pathetic attempts to pretend that Vivi was fodder in face of all the evidence to the contrary.
She got beat by fodder!
Actually, she did better than Nami and Usopp did at that time
Never beat anyone!
Beat the guys who were about to launch the nuke into Alabasta square
Well, they were fodder too! Sneak attacked a weakling!
They were named agents who were skilled enough snipers to take down Pell. If that‘s useless then so is Usopp. They are not as strong as the other BW agents, but then, Vivi beat them a lot easier and at the same time.
Vivi held her own in all the time she was in the crew. She was never the strongest, but she was also never some useless damsel in distress the way you guys are pretending.
And I don’t know what she will contribute, but I’m sure as hell it’ll be something big given the buildup she’s been given in the past few chapters.
Vivi- if we ever meet again will you call me a shipmate
Strawhats- yes
Story- Vivi will be meeting the Strawhats again for the endgame. She’s gonna be hugely important
You- it is bias and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Vivi will be crew again
Yep, I’m putting these trash arguments right in the same compartment as “Luffy asking Jinbei to join and Jinbei saying he will later if he’s asked again is meaningless.”
Too strong and disrupts the M3, the Heart Pirates are clearly not done based on what Bepo said.
A better suggestion than the utter dogshit that is Stussy, but won’t leave the unique niche he’s made for himself as the Strawhats main ally and the friendly rival captain trio with Luffy and Kid.
Ussop's sniping is actually impressive. The shot against sugar was basically impossible. He shot her across a giant city, around a castle wall, and without direct line of sight. Only someone with Ussops unique abilities could have done it. And he proved himself in Alabasta by defeating officer agents.
In contrast, Ms. Fathersday shot a giant bird who was directly in front of her and not aware of her existence, with a regular pistol, and it didn't defeat him, and he wasn't even strong.
Arguments like this are why I call bias. And you still haven't named even one thing Vivi can contribute.
As far as the retconn of the 20 year old panel, I'm done explaining why it doesn't mean she's joining the crew. We've had the exact same discussion before, and neither of us changed our minds. I would ask, however, that you stop purposely using the translation error "shipmate" to embelish your point, and use the word he actually said, "nakama". Nakama doesn't only refer to crew members, he also calls Ace, Sabo, Law, and Momo this. Keep things honest, I've corrected you on that before.
Also, try and keep things more civil. I'm not here for flame wars so please don't call me pathetic or refer to my arguements as dogshit. It's uncalled for, and I'm not going to engage with you anymore if you continue that.Ussop's sniping is actually impressive. The shot against sugar was basically impossible. He shot her across a giant city, around a castle wall, and without direct line of sight. Only someone with Ussops unique abilities could have done it. And he proved himself in Alabasta by defeating officer agents.
In contrast, Ms. Fathersday shot a giant bird who was directly in front of her and not aware of her existence, with a regular pistol, and it didn't defeat him, and he wasn't even strong.
Arguments like this are why I call bias. And you still haven't named even one thing Vivi can contribute.
As far as the retconn of the 20 year old panel, I'm done explaining why it doesn't mean she's joining the crew. We've had the exact same discussion before, and neither of us changed our minds. I would ask, however, that you stop purposely using the translation error "shipmate" to embelish your point, and use the word he actually said, "nakama". Nakama doesn't only refer to crew members, he also calls Ace, Sabo, Law, and Momo this. Keep things honest, I've corrected you on that before.
Gotta love how stronger than Sanji is a death nail in Law's case, but weaker than Ussop means nothing for Vivi. Bias everywhere.
I'm honestly not opposed to Vivi joining the crew, I just think the revisionist history and retconning is ridiculous. People are calling it a "jinbei situation" and saying it was obvious all along, when in reality, Vivi was entirely irrelevant to the discussion for 20 years, and then a few months ago she became the latest flavor of the month. No one thought it was a jinbei situation until her bandwagon picked up steam, even though it's been obvious they would meet again for years. The retconn of the X on the wrist scene is especially bad, because everyone understood it perfectly until a couple months ago, and now people are trying to change its meaning to the same as Jinbei to fit their agenda.
Also, try and keep things more civil. I'm not here for flame wars so please don't call me pathetic or refer to my arguements as dogshit. It's uncalled for, and I'm not going to engage with you anymore if you continue that.
...hilarious.
