General & Others Viz updated translation: "The man who passed the sentence was a dominating figure who once distinguished himself at a place called God Valley!!"

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

sandman is also wrong about this

What "native japanese" person says nah, bro? Is there some sort of advantage you get in this community by pretending to be japanese? There's a conversationally fluent japanese speaker in KOL's discord who does this and is obviously an American or European pretending.

Is there something wrong with just saying you're learning, or that it's not your first language?

or i guess, god forbid, the worst possible thing would be that it is your native language but you're not actually an expert in it and can make mistakes just as much as anyone else.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

From the raws, it says he was the Ruler of god valley that did great service at god valley.

Seems like he scarred prime whitebeard in the god valley incident

No, we saw Whitebeard post God valley and he had no scars

I don’t know where people get this nonsense headcanon

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

the mustache is the scar

 

[T.D.A]

sandman is also wrong about this

What "native japanese" person says nah, bro? Is there some sort of advantage you get in this community by pretending to be japanese? There's a conversationally fluent japanese speaker in KOL's discord who does this and is obviously an American or European pretending.

Is there something wrong with just saying you're learning, or that it's not your first language?

or i guess, god forbid, the worst possible thing would be that it is your native language but you're not actually an expert in it and can make mistakes just as much as anyone else.

sandman is Japanese and if you do a standard search on Google for each spelling his point is generally correct. But it’s very possible Oda did intend a sci-fi pun.

 

[Dante]

No, we saw Whitebeard post God valley and he had no scars

I don’t know where people get this nonsense headcanon

he had scars

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No, we saw Whitebeard post God valley and he had no scars

I don’t know where people get this nonsense headcanon

Whitebeard also has no scars when roger died. So do we just assume he got them from random fodder?

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

sandman is Japanese and if you do a standard search on Google for each spelling his point is generally correct. But it’s very possible Oda did intend a sci-fi pun.

I did that and his point isn't really correct. It seemed like both katakana were used interchangeably for flame and frame

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I did that and his point isn't really correct. It seemed like both katakana were used interchangeably for flame and frame

So how is he incorrect. And Sandman has been clarifying shit for years tf i trust him more than you

 

[T.D.A]

I did that and his point isn't really correct. It seemed like both katakana were used interchangeably for flame and frame

clear difference in the search results for each spelling:

https://www.google.com/search?q=フレイ...4xmAEAoAECoAEBsAEA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img

https://www.google.com/search?q=フレー...-gws-wiz-img&ei=4tCJZNeoB-C-nsEPnP2X0Ao&hl=EN

 

[mmd]

sandman is also wrong about this

What "native japanese" person says nah, bro? Is there some sort of advantage you get in this community by pretending to be japanese? There's a conversationally fluent japanese speaker in KOL's discord who does this and is obviously an American or European pretending.

Is there something wrong with just saying you're learning, or that it's not your first language?

or i guess, god forbid, the worst possible thing would be that it is your native language but you're not actually an expert in it and can make mistakes just as much as anyone else.

As far as I know, this person is Japanese and an educated person
This is a normal thing. In some languages, words have many meanings and puns
I am not Japanese, but I think it is one of the most difficult languages

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Mother Frame

That's like the first thing they should've changed. Their proofreaders aren't getting paid enough I guess.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

he had scars

I said POST GOD VALLEY… the Oden flashback

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

So I was right then.

Garling wasn't a literal king/ruler of God Valley. More so that he made his name for his achievement in God Valley as a denominator.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Whitebeard also has no scars when roger died. So do we just assume he got them from random fodder?

@Sir Yasheen
Actually no, after his fight with Roger, he has bandages on… in fact his bandages are in the places he has scars in… he got them from the Roger fight

 

[T.D.A]

That's like the first thing they should've changed. Their proofreaders aren't getting paid enough I guess.

Mother Frame is not a clear mistake though. Stephen Paul (Viz translator) said via the OP podcast: “It’s a coin toss between Mother Frame and Mother Flame depending on if it’s meant to be sci-fi as in futuristic ancient weapon’s mothership mainframe or mythological so that could get changed in the future.”

 

[Sir Yasheen]

@Sir Yasheen
Actually no, after his fight with Roger, he has bandages on… in fact his bandages are in the places he has scars in… he got them from the Roger fight

That’s anime filler manga he only has bandages on his head. None on his body

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Mother Frame is not a clear mistake though. Stephen Paul (Viz translator) said via the OP podcast: “It’s a coin toss between Mother Frame and Mother Flame depending on if it’s meant to be sci-fi as in futuristic ancient weapon’s mothership mainframe or mythological so that could get changed in the future.”

I see. I thought Mother Flame is meant to be the energy source for whatever weapon they were using to destroy Lulusia. Since VP uses fire as a source of energy to fuel to run Egghead, I thought Mother Flame makes more sense.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

So how is he incorrect. And Sandman has been clarifying shit for years tf i trust him more than you

hes incorrect because hes saying フレイム is "flame" and フレーム is "frame" but japanese people can use both for both. its not a hard and fast rule. there is a japanese clothing brand and a bicyclist magazine both called "FRAME" in english and "フレイム " in Japanese.

Sandman has been more interested in clarifying what Oda's studio's street address is than anything else

 

[GoldDiamond]

he had scars

Bro wasn't it wb didn't help xebec now all of a sudden for garling he fought and helped xebec?? though it was infighting within the crew

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Man, Mother Frame is still a garbage translation no matter how you look at it.