[FNZ] Role Madness Jujutsu Kaisen Mafia - Shibuya Incident [Game Ended = Mafia + Traitor + Neutral Indie Won!]

[EkkoLoJinx]

Day 3 - Master Tengen's Wisdom


Master Tengen has bestowed upon the players the following wisdom:

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Hello to the 8 people who replied to me!! you guys make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!
I will anwser in order to the questions i received first.


Question One about ......
To the first question, I've noted two replies from you? There can only be one person who can reply to me a day. So someone is faking it.....


Question Two am i a real person??
Yes i am a player

Question Three -who is sakuna and my town reads.
Unfortunately, i don't know who sukuna is, but if someone with info who don't want to claim in thread. Then maybe they can send it to me in daytime ask. and i can foreword the message for the next day!

scum reads prof, kweh,ultra
town reads Michelle,joygirl,flower


Question Four - The advantage of messaging me...
I was expecting maybe anonymous claims/actions incase something fu$%$ up, other death note actions/will to be sent to me by town/indie? or scum just spam me with fake info?

Question Five-who is gojo
No idea

Question Six asking for cenus
Sorry i don't have that.

Question Seven where and who is the star vessel
No clue, is this related to your wincon?

Question Ten can you buff people?
Sorry i can't buff people.

Day Continues.

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Spoiler: tags/updated player list

Living Players - [19/27]
1. @RippedCal
2. @Ratchet
3. @Ultra
4. @ConquistadoR
5. @Kiku
6. @hime
7. @Joygirl
8. @Midnight Delight
9. @Destroya
10. @MitchMatch
11. @KWEH
12. @Orwellian
13. @Dr_Professor83
14. @MangoSenpai
15. @NikaInParis
16. @Flower
17. @Michelle
18. @Grammaton
19. @Neeko


Dead Players - [8/27]
1. @T-Pein™ (Aoi Todo) - Lynched Day 1
2. @Mr. Reloaded (Choso) - Died Night 1
3. @MonochromeYoru (Noritoshi Kamo) - Died Night 1
4. @Psylocke (Momo Nishimiya) - Left Game Day 2
5. @Underworld Broker (Dagon) - Lost Duel Day 2
6. @Dr. Watson @Reborn (Kiyotaka Ijichi) - Executed Day 2
7. @Naomi (Riko Amanai) - Died Night 2
8. @Alwaysmind (Atsuya Kusakabe) - Died Night 2
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[Neeko]

i didn't read much of it, but im pretty high belief that reborn being executed while tweet was the leading/competing wagon is an attempt to mislead into getting everyone to vote the other.

also im pretty high on the believe one of, possibly both, ratchet/ultra could be scum with the way the wagons/days are going. we should all work together to clear that up today!

 

[Midnight Delight]

Question Six asking for cenus
Sorry i don't have that.

Why not ask me directly

 

[Dr_Professor83]

i didn't read much of it, but im pretty high belief that reborn being executed while tweet was the leading/competing wagon is an attempt to mislead into getting everyone to vote the other.

also im pretty high on the believe one of, possibly both, ratchet/ultra could be scum with the way the wagons/days are going. we should all work together to clear that up today!

Ratchet could be. I think Ultra is town.

I don’t see why scum wastes their execute to frame Tweet instead of saving it for when scum is in danger (vs a situation where it’s just two Townies and either one remains in POE regardless of lynch)

Basically I think Tweet was firmly enough in the POE that he didn’t need to be framed to be mislynched. So all scum would have done is waste their execute when it could have better served them when one of them was in danger.

And on the assumption that Tweet is scum, I think you have equity with him (even before this post) bc of the possible chainsaw defense on me when you voted me at the time I was going at Tweet on D1.

 

[Neeko]

Ratchet could be. I think Ultra is town.

I don’t see why scum wastes their execute to frame Tweet instead of saving it for when scum is in danger (vs a situation where it’s just two Townies and either one remains in POE regardless of lynch)

Basically I think Tweet was firmly enough in the POE that he didn’t need to be framed to be mislynched. So all scum would have done is waste their execute when it could have better served them when one of them was in danger.

And on the assumption that Tweet is scum, I think you have equity with him (even before this post) bc of the possible chainsaw defense on me when you voted me at the time I was going at Tweet on D1.

framing situation gives you an additional mislynch(on top of the one you just had) and two more additional night kills. we lost 3 townies from that execute without a chance at a scum lynch ya? then if we just swing back to tweet and he's town then that's 6 and the game is pretty much done, ya? it is definitely worth it to get the game into an unwinnable situation.

idk what the chainsaw defense is but im not scum. ill try reading back from whenever i just became incapacitated(i also think i have a stomach ulcer now but that's okay).

 

[Orwellian]

Yeah what the hell is a "chainsaw defense" exactly? I've played these games for awhile now and have never ever heard that term being used before. Explanation please.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I wrote this up last night as my will in case I died lol. Will edit/tweak it a bit and post:

Almost sure Town: Conq, JG, Flower, Ultra
Town Lean: Fang, Mitch, Midnight, Mango

Almost put Michelle there in town leans, but technically we could have forced her to duel her own teammate since she didn’t duel of our volition. However, Michelle probably just calls her own shot if she’s scum rather than asking and dueling a teammate?

That leaves: Gram, Neeko, Dest, Kiku, Ratchet, Hime Nika to sort out

I’d assume ~ 5 scum + Sukuna for bad. Assuming Tweet is scum, that means probably looking for 3 mafia in the above pile.

If Tweet is scum, Gram probably town. Neeko may look worse for his voting me/chainsaw defense of Tweet D1. Kiku has a decent chance of being scum with Broki for the Midnight vote and Dest derail. Also think Cal looks bad on a Broki scum - Reborn Town flip. His post tying Reborn to Broki could have been tying someone to a teammate. Also he never seemed to overly on board offing Broki or Tweet.

Priority scum POE: Tweet, Neeko, Kiku, Cal
Then look for the rest in: Ratchet, Dest, Hime, Nika, Mitch (I feel the best about Mitch in that group)

 

[Neeko]

Ratchet could be. I think Ultra is town.

I don’t see why scum wastes their execute to frame Tweet instead of saving it for when scum is in danger (vs a situation where it’s just two Townies and either one remains in POE regardless of lynch)

Basically I think Tweet was firmly enough in the POE that he didn’t need to be framed to be mislynched. So all scum would have done is waste their execute when it could have better served them when one of them was in danger.

And on the assumption that Tweet is scum, I think you have equity with him (even before this post) bc of the possible chainsaw defense on me when you voted me at the time I was going at Tweet on D1.

oh as for ultra, there's things that make me think he's town and there's things that don't. some of the condescending responses remind me of his attitude in traitors mafia, but tbf that just means it's more likely to be NAI.

it was largely his midnight vote after i voted broki last phase that made me think he's suss(which was relatively early on). id appreciate if someone else could look back and see if he said anything about broki when the info first came out. i know ratchet did, but im assuming ratchet is tactical enough as scum to look for ways to find a way out of role in for a teammate by seeing if there's any holes in the info without overtly siding against the info. in any case, i dont think the scum are a bunch of inactive, low tier players.

ima try reading back all of day 2 or as much as i can so im not shooting in the dark at least so brb.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

framing situation gives you an additional mislynch(on top of the one you just had) and two more additional night kills. we lost 3 townies from that execute without a chance at a scum lynch ya? then if we just swing back to tweet and he's town then that's 6 and the game is pretty much done, ya? it is definitely worth it to get the game into an unwinnable situation.

idk what the chainsaw defense is but im not scum. ill try reading back from whenever i just became incapacitated(i also think i have a stomach ulcer now but that's okay).

Chainsaw defense is going at a person arguing with/sussing your teammate to discredit them (but you don’t straight up defend your teammate/agree with what they are saying).

 

[Ratchet]

@Dr_Professor83 What's your read on the cfd yesterday. I have some thoughts, but it doesn't really line up great with everything else I have to consider.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

@Dr_Professor83 What's your read on the cfd yesterday. I have some thoughts, but it doesn't really line up great with everything else I have to consider.

Idk. If you weren’t scum leading it then I think it’s more likely scum took advantage of it. You can read my recent posts and see where my head is at.

 

[Flower]

So, scum decided to kill a claimed Survivor. I was not gonna be that active, but now it's on.

 

[RippedCal]

So, scum decided to kill a claimed Survivor. I was not gonna be that active, but now it's on.

how do u know that was scum kill?

 

[Flower]

how do u know that was scum kill?

*Secrets*.

 

[RippedCal]

I wrote this up last night as my will in case I died lol. Will edit/tweak it a bit and post:

Almost sure Town: Conq, JG, Flower, Ultra
Town Lean: Fang, Mitch, Midnight, Mango

Almost put Michelle there in town leans, but technically we could have forced her to duel her own teammate since she didn’t duel of our volition. However, Michelle probably just calls her own shot if she’s scum rather than asking and dueling a teammate?

That leaves: Gram, Neeko, Dest, Kiku, Ratchet, Hime Nika to sort out

I’d assume ~ 5 scum + Sukuna for bad. Assuming Tweet is scum, that means probably looking for 3 mafia in the above pile.

If Tweet is scum, Gram probably town. Neeko may look worse for his voting me/chainsaw defense of Tweet D1. Kiku has a decent chance of being scum with Broki for the Midnight vote and Dest derail. Also think Cal looks bad on a Broki scum - Reborn Town flip. His post tying Reborn to Broki could have been tying someone to a teammate. Also he never seemed to overly on board offing Broki or Tweet.

Priority scum POE: Tweet, Neeko, Kiku, Cal
Then look for the rest in: Ratchet, Dest, Hime, Nika, Mitch (I feel the best about Mitch in that group)

the entire basis for my push was that they were distancing why is this news

 

[Dr_Professor83]

the entire basis for my push was that they were distancing why is this news

Bc it’s a good way to tie a townie to a teammate who is going down

 

[RippedCal]

also how on earth was i not on board yeeting broki lmao what a joke of a post

 

[Ratchet]

@Neeko My main question for you is where you get Ultra/me from and why you exclude other competent players (such as Gram). Because as far as wagons go I don't really think you get to accuse me of how they've formed out. My main problem is your "one of or both" because I know I'm town and I think Ultra is too, and if I'm to dismiss your accuracy I need to at least be able to see the reasoning.

I don't fully agree with the Tweet thing too, but there's some extra setup spec in this, in that with AM flipping Assassin it adds another name to the spec of "how many of these can be town".

I'd like your reads in full actually

 

[Neeko]

@Michelle

may i ask you why it took you so long to duel broki despite being asked repeatedly to do so last day phase?

 

[RippedCal]

Bc it’s a good way to tie a townie to a teammate who is going down

but i was pushing to lynch reborn yesterday, you make it sound like i was trying to set something up based on broki's flip when we didn't even have it?