[FNZ] Role Madness Jujutsu Kaisen Mafia - Shibuya Incident [Game Ended = Mafia + Traitor + Neutral Indie Won!]

[Grammaton]

Yes. Obviously not telling us about that duel ability at all.

Except she had already told us day 1 - can’t exactly not use it there can she?

 

[Grammaton]

Unless your contention is she could have just not told us full stop, in which case she’d never be able to use it full stop (if she wanted to get away with it)

 

[hime]

Two, actually. You just explained how a claim checks out, but swapped it into scum.

Secondly, what would your PoE look like if you made that swap?

His claim checks out with who he's been sussing throughout the game

That can be faked obvi and could be bc blue took so long to do so, he could've been waiting for his scummates to give him the names to claim
But I feel a bit better abt the slot regardless

Also not sure what u mean by the second part? Should be pretty obvious that it would be my scum leans?

 

[Grammaton]

@hime why do you think fang didn’t mention anything about being able to heal until he got pressed - given that ultra had to visit him and not the other way around, 0 utility in keeping it secret - otherwise how the fuck is ultra supposed to be cured?

 

[Joygirl1]

Except she had already told us day 1 - can’t exactly not use it there can she?

That´s what we mean, she could have chosen not to tell us on Day 1, why claiming any more than necessary? Or do you think this was scum´s plan to let her getting forced into dueling someone of her own team? If so, then the thought process behind mafia team´s plan must not be so simple as Ratchet wants us make think?

We´re only trying to make some progress here. Do you think Ratchet is GF then? @hime and whoever is reading right now. Shall we trust on Mitch´s inno scan or not?

 

[Ratchet]

His claim checks out with who he's been sussing throughout the game

That can be faked obvi and could be bc blue took so long to do so, he could've been waiting for his scummates to give him the names to claim
But I feel a bit better abt the slot regardless

Also not sure what u mean by the second part? Should be pretty obvious that it would be my scum leans?

No, I mean list out your reads again with that swap made. It should be fairly evident where the issue lies.

 

[Ratchet]

Or do you think this was scum´s plan to let her getting forced into dueling someone of her own team? If so, then the thought process behind mafia team´s plan must not be so simple as Ratchet wants us make think?

I don't understand what you're saying here.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Most of the nulls are genuine nulls which are a product of how little I've paid attention to the second half of this game

Midnight the worst of those I'd say since I don't like his census and why would he lie about it as town

Mitch clearing Ratchet would be bizarre thing to do as scum unless they're teamed so that's why I'd connect the two of them in that way

Flower has been ungenuine, her reactions are fake and she's omgus'd me at every turn. Not only that but she is saying she crushed me when I haven't even claimed. That's very anti-town if true but I have not got any reason to believe it's true which obviously is concerning in itself

Your slot has been by far the worst I've read today. Your arguments make no sense to the point that I don't believe you believe them, you've also separated yourself from voting and as a result I find it easy to believe you could be scum regardless of who flips what.

Kelp. (So, are you saying that you are in fact not perma RC'd?)

 

[Joygirl1]

I don't understand what you're saying here.

Risk losing a member on purpose to get their teammate town cred and being widely read as town for the rest of the round. Scum team could have made some strange moves, considering that execute on Reborn when KWEH was about to be lynched.

 

[Ratchet]

Risk losing a member on purpose to get their teammate town cred and being widely read as town for the rest of the round. Scum team could have made some strange moves, considering that execute on Reborn when KWEH was about to be lynched.

Gram's point is that if she didn't claim the duel day 1, she would never be able to use it because it would have been unclaimed.

 

[Grammaton]

That´s what we mean, she could have chosen not to tell us on Day 1, why claiming any more than necessary? Or do you think this was scum´s plan to let her getting forced into dueling someone of her own team? If so, then the thought process behind mafia team´s plan must not be so simple as Ratchet wants us make think?

We´re only trying to make some progress here. Do you think Ratchet is GF then? @hime and whoever is reading right now. Shall we trust on Mitch´s inno scan or not?

No, I’m relatively sure ratchet is town - i thought that before the cop result l. I think paranoia is fuelling a lot of the thoughts against him, and I don’t think anything remotely convincing is being brought to bear. Is it possible I’m wrong? Sure, and I’ll look like the biggest twat ever if that’s the case but everything points towards a team of semi absent folk who don’t really know how to seize the situation they miraculously find themselves in

As for Michelle, she could have chosen to keep it under wraps but then she probably gets lynched day 1 if she claims just assassin, given she had some heavy fingers being pointed at her

I don’t think scum planned her to be forced to duel a partner, but they didn’t know broki was gonna get caught did they - not really a very good point tbh

 

[Grammaton]

That´s what we mean, she could have chosen not to tell us on Day 1, why claiming any more than necessary? Or do you think this was scum´s plan to let her getting forced into dueling someone of her own team? If so, then the thought process behind mafia team´s plan must not be so simple as Ratchet wants us make think?

We´re only trying to make some progress here. Do you think Ratchet is GF then? @hime and whoever is reading right now. Shall we trust on Mitch´s inno scan or not?

like the bolded is a false dichotomy and dare I say suggests youve already made your mind up

 

[Joygirl1]

like the bolded is a false dichotomy and dare I say suggests youve already made your mind up

No, we have not made our mind up. We´re just thinking about all possibilities.

 

[Grammaton]

No, we have not made our mind up. We´re just thinking about all possibilities.

but you literally just cut possibilities out to present an either/or, neither of which are what I was saying?

 

[Grammaton]

Alright well, I tried

 

[hime]

@hime why do you think fang didn’t mention anything about being able to heal until he got pressed - given that ultra had to visit him and not the other way around, 0 utility in keeping it secret - otherwise how the fuck is ultra supposed to be cured?

honestly idr how the claim came into picture
i do know that everyone has been saying that mahito or whatever is behind the transfigures and that he should be scum
aurelians heal has been verified by ultra
what need is there for a scum healer when scum is behind the transfigurements?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

what need is there for a scum healer when scum is behind the transfigurements?

*Dressrosa intensifies*

 

[Midnight Delight]

Can Fang Heal Joygirl btw?

 

[hime]

actually wtf
wait a damn minute

scum isnt behind the transfigures

 

[Midnight Delight]

actually wtf
wait a damn minute

scum isnt behind the transfigures

Why not