[FNZ] Salem of Lies Town of Salem (Unofficial)

[TheAncientCenturion]

but wouldn't that just allow mafia to pick who they wanna target without fearing tp protecting etc

Well, potentially, but we'd be getting rid of 1 Maf today (Drago) and the WW would be out. So if Maf decides to visit, they risk losing 2 people in one day-night phase.

But there are also vamps rn its MAFIA VS VAMPS VS WW

Vampires have no power besides biting people. So, TI can and will shut them down. They can only act every other night too, in the ToS online version. So if they convert N1, they have to wait till N3 to do so again.
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Look I don't wanna save the potential WW, but I feel like Mafia is closer to actually winning.

 

[Kiwipom]

This.


Keeping WW around is never good.

Also, scums could outvote us if they wanted to, but both Vamps and Mafia will help us with the votes now, so we should use this to gain back majority, else we're doomed.

But again, what do we have that makes us sure that it's Relapse?

Why not HA001 who has been silent? Or someone else who hasn't claimed yet?

I do want to lynch ww but I'm reluctant too because it's:
- Relapse (not confirmed ww)
- Drago (confirmed scum)

if Relapse isn't ww, we're going into the night with scum and ww, we'll be really screwed. Is this a gamble we want to take?

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Well, potentially, but we'd be getting rid of 1 Maf today (Drago) and the WW would be out. So if Maf decides to visit, they risk losing 2 people in one day-night phase.


Vampires have no power besides biting people. So, TI can and will shut them down. They can only act every other night too, in the ToS online version. So if they convert N1, they have to wait till N3 to do so again.
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Look I don't wanna save the potential WW, but I feel like Mafia is closer to actually winning.

Since there have been no vamp kills that means that 2 people have been turned into vamps.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Since there have been no vamp kills that means that 2 people have been turned into vamps.

Probably. But here's my thing Don;

We cannot say for certain who the vampires are.
We cannot say for certain who the wereolf is.
We have a very good idea of who a Mafia member is.

We can try to lynch Relapse, but if he flips town? That's disastrous. And just for the werewolf too. I'd rather hit the known entity than gamble right now.

 

[Flower]

Well, potentially, but we'd be getting rid of 1 Maf today (Drago) and the WW would be out. So if Maf decides to visit, they risk losing 2 people in one day-night phase.


Vampires have no power besides biting people. So, TI can and will shut them down. They can only act every other night too, in the ToS online version. So if they convert N1, they have to wait till N3 to do so again.
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Look I don't wanna save the potential WW, but I feel like Mafia is closer to actually winning.

Our Invest is dead and my ability can't find Vamps.

We should get rid of WW tonight.

Otherwise...

Let's say we have 5 Townies left.

Mafia can kill a Townie.
WW kills a Townie.
Vamps can't potentially do anything if they're on CD.

We'd be left with three Townies by next DP.

If we kill WW this DP, potentially block Drago, or have BG or TP protect somebody we could actually avoid casualties alltogether next NP.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Our Invest is dead and my ability can't find Vamps.

We should get rid of WW tonight.

Otherwise...

Let's say we have 5 Townies left.

Mafia can kill a Townie.
WW kills a Townie.
Vamps can't potentially do anything if they're on CD.

We'd be left with three Townies by next DP.

If we kill WW this DP, potentially block Drago, or have BG or TP protect somebody we could actually avoid casualties alltogether next NP.

How sure are we that we're getting the right person for WW?

 

[Kiwipom]

Our Invest is dead and my ability can't find Vamps.

We should get rid of WW tonight.

Otherwise...

Let's say we have 5 Townies left.

Mafia can kill a Townie.
WW kills a Townie.
Vamps can't potentially do anything if they're on CD.

We'd be left with three Townies by next DP.

If we kill WW this DP, potentially block Drago, or have BG or TP protect somebody we could actually avoid casualties alltogether next NP.

but what happens if we mislynch?

 

[Flower]

But again, what do we have that makes us sure that it's Relapse?

Why not HA001 who has been silent? Or someone else who hasn't claimed yet?

I do want to lynch ww but I'm reluctant too because it's:
- Relapse (not confirmed ww)
- Drago (confirmed scum)

if Relapse isn't ww, we're going into the night with scum and ww, we'll be really screwed. Is this a gamble we want to take?

Look at Rela's defense, though. Does he not look like somebody who just got outed as scum?

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Our Invest is dead and my ability can't find Vamps.

We should get rid of WW tonight.

Otherwise...

Let's say we have 5 Townies left.

Mafia can kill a Townie.
WW kills a Townie.
Vamps can't potentially do anything if they're on CD.

We'd be left with three Townies by next DP.

If we kill WW this DP, potentially block Drago, or have BG or TP protect somebody we could actually avoid casualties alltogether next NP.

Drago cant be blocked bc there is no escort. There is a consort. Mafia cant rb other mafia unless there is a trans

 

[RayanOO]

How sure are we that we're getting the right person for WW?

They are not sure at all, they didn't bring any arguments to lynch relapse except "impressions"

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Look at Rela's defense, though. Does he not look like somebody who just got outed as scum?

I'm not sure if that's a good enough argument. I thought Relapse was Vampire Hunter earlier in the game because of his Dracula and Stake statements.

Drago cant be blocked bc there is no escort. There is a consort. Mafia cant rb other mafia unless there is a trans

We might have an escort tbh. I was roleblocked twice last night.
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They are not sure at all, they didn't bring any arguments to lynch relapse except "impressions"

Yeah. That's my issue. If we could be reasonably sure of lynching WW? Different story. But we aren't. We need to focus on the enemies we have currently.

 

[Flower]

I'm not sure if that's a good enough argument. I thought Relapse was Vampire Hunter earlier in the game because of his Dracula and Stake statements.

We might have an escort tbh. I was roleblocked twice last night.
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Yeah. That's my issue. If we could be reasonably sure of lynching WW? Different story. But we aren't. We need to focus on the enemies we have currently.

He's defo scum. So if not WW, he could be a Vamp, too, or Mafia. So we will clearly reduce scum's numbers that way.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@RayanOO Would you vote Drago? You don;t seem sure on Relapse either

He's defo scum. So if not WW, he could be a Vamp, too, or Mafia. So we will clearly reduce scum's numbers that way.

He's relapse. Being unique is basically his entire forum persona. So him being weird in a Mafia game doesn't automatically denote him as scum. Let's focus on Drago, who we are very comfortable with as scum. Again, WW can't win next game phase regardless. Can't win the game phase after that either. Hitting the Mafia though? That postpones our defeat.

 

[Kiwipom]

He's defo scum. So if not WW, he could be a Vamp, too, or Mafia. So we will clearly reduce scum's numbers that way.

I don't understand. There is nothing saying he is deffo scum.

And what did he claim? I'll need to reread his posts.

 

[RayanOO]

Would you vote Drago? You don;t seem sure on Relapse either

What is your case already against him ? because he claimed a role that was already taken ?

 

[Flower]

I don't understand. There is nothing saying he is deffo scum.

And what did he claim? I'll need to reread his posts.

Queen was targetted by WW and she suspected Rela.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Vote lynch Dragomir @Reborn


Now that Sera's dead, I'll say it. Sera was Jailer. That's why my opinion on Sera changed so drastically.


I was RBed twice.

thanks tac

 

[Flower]

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE would you mind claiming?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

so we lynch drago and all stay home tonight
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@LANJI CUCKSMOKE would you mind claiming?

No

 

[RayanOO]

And what did he claim? I'll need to reread his posts.

Relapse said that

"
I’m obvs a consignment to the town


Flowers obvs began this false fuckery. "