This is what I consider a sword fight...

#41
Lots of people here have a lack of reading comprehension. There is a difference between making money off your manga vs writing your story to cater to marketing instead of actual story telling. Learn the difference guys.

When Oda ended a major arc so that he can write advertisement into his manga to promote a movie, no other manga does that crap.
Kishimidto literally added otsutsukis and made the last chapter of his manga as boruto advertisement. Keep coping
 
#43
The King of milking was and is DB (GT, super, movies...) long after the actual story ended
Yeah but GT was actually loved, the last 2 movies of Super were a success both in income and in reviews and Super is slowly getting better and more enjoyable. Granted, not as good as og DB and DBZ but still better than stuff like Boruto imo
 
#45
I'll have to agree on this. Naruto's fight choreography is just that good. Boruto's is pretty good as well (from the clips that I've seen) but that doesn't make it a good story. Just for clarification, I love naruto, but I hste boruto with a passion.
No it's not the anine tricks you. but the manga is the definition of mid
this is thenest sword choreography in the manga
 
#49
Yeah but GT was actually loved, the last 2 movies of Super were a success both in income and in reviews and Super is slowly getting better and more enjoyable. Granted, not as good as og DB and DBZ but still better than stuff like Boruto imo
Loved? I heard different things regarding dbgt and the questionable decisions it made(turning goku into a child again, annoying pan, ending..)
 
#50
Loved? I heard different things regarding dbgt and the questionable decisions it made(turning goku into a child again, annoying pan, ending..)
At first a lot of people disliked it but as time passed and the mid part of dbs arrived, people started liking it more. You know how it is, you don't appreciate something untill it's gone and something worse appears
 
#51
@lee33
You've got a point about Oda falling off in quality and selling out more too (the Greenbull disrespect was pure film red shilling)

But Kishimoto is far worse in this regard. Look no further than the atrocity that is Boruto. Absolute clown show.
Even the final saga of Naruto was shit, but people get carried away by Madara and give it a pass

Yeah but GT was actually loved, the last 2 movies of Super were a success both in income and in reviews and Super is slowly getting better and more enjoyable. Granted, not as good as og DB and DBZ but still better than stuff like Boruto imo
DBS is complete and utter dogshit.

GT was mediocre, but it didn't completely disrespect DBz and DB

DBS reduced super saiyan to "tingly feeling on the back"
Of all the things I've ever seen in anime in general, I don't think there was any moment where I ever felt more disrespected as a fan.
 
#52
At first a lot of people disliked it but as time passed and the mid part of dbs arrived, people started liking it more. You know how it is, you don't appreciate something untill it's gone and something worse appears
It had its moments(ssj4 transformation and Design ,vegetas normal family life,dying finally a real threat (picollo at the end), overused dragonballs lead to bad consequences..)
 
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#53
@lee33
You've got a point about Oda falling off in quality and selling out more too (the Greenbull disrespect was pure film red shilling)

But Kishimoto is far worse in this regard. Look no further than the atrocity that is Boruto. Absolute clown show.
Even the final saga of Naruto was shit, but people get carried away by Madara and give it a pass



DBS is complete and utter dogshit.

GT was mediocre, but it didn't completely disrespect DBz and DB

DBS reduced super saiyan to "tingly feeling on the back"
Of all the things I've ever seen in anime in general, I don't think there was any moment where I ever felt more disrespected as a fan.
That was actually disgusting I'll have to agree. Even the kids of Goku and Vegeta obtaining SSJ was a bit of a stretch but the back thingy was something that I usually pretend that never happened. Outside of that and the... Dubious beginning (to say the least) Granola's and Moro's arc were quite enjoyable
 
#55
That was actually disgusting I'll have to agree. Even the kids of Goku and Vegeta obtaining SSJ was a bit of a stretch but the back thingy was something that I usually pretend that never happened. Outside of that and the... Dubious beginning (to say the least) Granola's and Moro's arc were quite enjoyable
It isn't even just that, it's just the most memorable moment of that shitshow.

Everything about super is trash. They made Broly into a sympathetic dude instead of a badass monster who went insane, and pretty much put him into a ship.

Didn't Krillin almost die from a GUN?

Powerscaling is even more dead than it's in fairy tail, with the universe tournament.

Jiren backstory was complete dogshit.
 
#56
It isn't even just that, it's just the most memorable moment of that shitshow.

Everything about super is trash. They made Broly into a sympathetic dude instead of a badass monster who went insane, and pretty much put him into a ship.

Didn't Krillin almost die from a GUN?

Powerscaling is even more dead than it's in fairy tail, with the universe tournament.

Jiren backstory was complete dogshit.
I'm actually tired of power scaling in DB so I don't give a fuck.

Krillin has been disrespected since forever it's honestly nothing new.

Regarding Broly, I'd rather have this version of Broly, which is somewhat understandable, instead of a dumb monkey (pun intended) who decided to murder everyone because he couldn't sleep as a kid. Like, what the fuck is that? At least current Broly is a character with a "real" personality. Z's Broly motivation for killing Goku was "he cried while we were babies".
 
#57
I'm actually tired of power scaling in DB so I don't give a fuck.

Krillin has been disrespected since forever it's honestly nothing new.

Regarding Broly, I'd rather have this version of Broly, which is somewhat understandable, instead of a dumb monkey (pun intended) who decided to murder everyone because he couldn't sleep as a kid. Like, what the fuck is that? At least current Broly is a character with a "real" personality. Z's Broly motivation for killing Goku was "he cried while we were babies".
Akshually you could argue it is not gokus crying but rather what broly associated with that (the murder attempt on him)
".. Dumb monkey.."
He literally belongs to a brutal warrior race
 
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#58
That was actually disgusting I'll have to agree. Even the kids of Goku and Vegeta obtaining SSJ was a bit of a stretch but the back thingy was something that I usually pretend that never happened. Outside of that and the... Dubious beginning (to say the least) Granola's and Moro's arc were quite enjoyable
GT > Super
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A particular series that has over 1000 episodes, where one of their main character whole gimmick is about swords, doesn't have a sword fight that even comes close to this.

Most of that is filler, not to mention that Zoro vs King anime massively surpasses that.
 
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#60
@lee33
You've got a point about Oda falling off in quality and selling out more too (the Greenbull disrespect was pure film red shilling)

But Kishimoto is far worse in this regard. Look no further than the atrocity that is Boruto. Absolute clown show.
Even the final saga of Naruto was shit, but people get carried away by Madara and give it a pass
But I don't even consider Boruto a story. Boruto is just a money grab. I put Boruto and One Piece in the same category as mangas that cater to marketing rather than actual story telling. And yes I agree the Naruto war arc was terrible and I was on mangafox forums back in the day ripping it as hard as I am with One Piece but now that it is over and I see what One Piece has become, it is even worse and yet the One Piece fanbase doesn't allow criticism.

In the Naruto forums there were lively discussions on how terrible the direction Kishimoto took, where even Youtubers were criticizing it but god forbid if it is One Piece, you aren't allowed to say anything bad.
 
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