Speculations Could Sanji have used Ifrit Jambe without Exoskeleton?..

#1
I think he could have but he would have significantly damaged his leg.. He could still have gone beyond
since he has CoC potential.. He can overcome death like Luffy, Zoro and Usopp..

And the damage would have healed like Zoro after a hard fight..

It's just that Oda won't give him an extreme diff fight..
 
#3
He definitely could've. He's been working on his coa to handle higher heat before the exo anyways.

Remember the star shaped dj? It's likely a halfway point to blue flames in my personal opinion

Tho destroying the rs and accepting his role on luffys crew along with seeing queen using vinsmoke powers and accepting help from his friends...are likely the emotional triggers that allowed his heat to reach such Temps.
 
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#8
I think he could have but he would have significantly damaged his leg.. He could still have gone beyond
since he has CoC potential.. He can overcome death like Luffy, Zoro and Usopp..

And the damage would have healed like Zoro after a hard fight..

It's just that Oda won't give him an extreme diff fight..
CoC potential has nothing to do with strength.

For him to go Ifrit Jambe without exoskeleton is only if he got way stronger on his haki. Not sure if just learning different applications like Ryou or Internal Damage would make any difference here. But he had to had a stronger haki to support Ifrit Jambe heat temperature.
 
#10
CoC potential has nothing to do with strength.

For him to go Ifrit Jambe without exoskeleton is only if he got way stronger on his haki. Not sure if just learning different applications like Ryou or Internal Damage would make any difference here. But he had to had a stronger haki to support Ifrit Jambe heat temperature.
Yes it does, Oden could survive 1 hour in boiling oil because of CoC and being Greater than Life character.. Same with Luffy
and Zoro, suriving stuff that should have killed them and probably have lost life span for that.. Whitebeard comes to mind as well, i'm forgetting others most likely..


Yes, but will severe consequences

He needed Exo to use IJ without hurting himself
So are you saying, he won't heal from it after?..
 
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Herrera95

#11
Yes it does, Oden could survive 1 hour in boiling oil because of CoC and being Greater than Life character.. Same with Luffy
and Zoro, suriving stuff that should have killed them and probably have lost life span for that.. Whitebeard comes to mind as well, i'm forgetting others most likely..
Who said it was because of his CoC?

Maybe because of CoC coating but that's Oden that already mastered CoC and not someone with potential.

I'm not saying CoC doesn't make you stronger since it clearly does when you learn how to coat. But having potential to it doesn't says you are strong.

Kin'emon doesn't have CoC and surived to Kaido's CoC attack on head and sword stabbing while Luffy died from getting hit on the head.
 
#12
Who said it was because of his CoC?

Maybe because of CoC coating but that's Oden that already mastered CoC and not someone with potential.

I'm not saying CoC doesn't make you stronger since it clearly does when you learn how to coat. But having potential to it doesn't says you are strong.

Kin'emon doesn't have CoC and surived to Kaido's CoC attack on head and sword stabbing while Luffy died from getting hit on the head.
Because to unleash CoC you need the power overwhelm death itself..

When Luffy ran out of Stamina for his last Stand Off against Katakuri, he was standing on will power alone, being CoC..
Stamina depleted meaning the CoA bar is to Zero..

Same as his final against Lucci, he was on the ground and completely out of power..
 
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#13
Because to unleash CoC you need the power overwhelm death itself..
Where is that said?

When Luffy ran out of Stamina for his last Stand Off against Katakuri, he was standing on will power alone, being CoC..
Stamina depleted meaning the CoA bar is to Zero..
Nope. He had enough time to rest when he was out after Snakeman form ran out. Stamina and CoA are different things. Luffy could still ran from Katakuri after his Coa depleted first time he went G4 with Boundman form.

Same as his final against Lucci, he was on the ground and completely out of power..
That's G5 not G4 so he didn't depleted his CoA only his stamina that is the source of his DF powers.
 
#15
Where is that said?
When Zoro mentions to himself how he should stabilize Enma, and that if he keeps exuding this amount of Haki it will kill him.. Then he says that no that's how it should be, he need to put in life on the line to Master Enma.. He's done it many times, at the end of thriller Bark or Starving for a whole week, standing between life and death in Alabasta.. Zoro's whole Journey has been overcoming and overwhelming death up till Wano..

Nope. He had enough time to rest when he was out after Snakeman form ran out. Stamina and CoA are different things. Luffy could still ran from Katakuri after his Coa depleted first time he went G4 with Boundman form.
He was Crawling out of the hole at the end.. Stamina and CoA are one another..


That's G5 not G4 so he didn't depleted his CoA only his stamina that is the source of his DF powers.
No i mean Enies Lobby fight, he couldn't move at all, then got back up that's CoC..
 
#16
Yes and no.
Can he use it? Theoretically since the exoskeleton doesn’t empower his fire. However, the problem comes from the fact that Sanji would burn his own leg as he can’t handle that level of heat.
 

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#17
He can use it but he will end up burning his leg.

His CoA training alone from the Timeskip wasn't enough to use his new "Jambe" mode.
He basically got enhanced strength, enhanced speed, enhanced durability & that regeneration quirk from the Exoskeleton. Due to pairing his enhanced durability with his CoA, he could tolerate higher levels of heat and hence could use "Ifrit" Jambe, an upgrade to Diable Jambe.
 
#18
Yes and no.
Can he use it? Theoretically since the exoskeleton doesn’t empower his fire. However, the problem comes from the fact that Sanji would burn his own leg as he can’t handle that level of heat.
Then, would Sanji's leg be beyond repair and self healing after?..

He can use it but he will end up burning his leg.

His CoA training alone from the Timeskip wasn't enough to use his new "Jambe" mode.
He basically got enhanced strength, enhanced speed, enhanced durability & that regeneration quirk from the Exoskeleton. Due to pairing his enhanced durability with his CoA, he could tolerate higher levels of heat and hence could use "Ifrit" Jambe, an upgrade to Diable Jambe.
Then, would Sanji's leg be beyond repair and self healing after?..
 
#20
Yes.

If he could use his new Jambe mode before Exoskeleton, he would've just done it without wondering how to get past Queen's tankiness.
He only used it once his Exoskeleton awakened.
That's just what the given Narrative in that situation though..

Oden can survive 1 hour in boiling oil.. He was dead no matter what, but the point is characters can overcome injuries that would normally not be possible.. I.E. Zoro at the end of Thriller Bark.. I need to think of other cases in One Piece.. However usually people don't get cut in half and things like that..
 
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