Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1087 Spoilers Discussion

[SakazOuki]

Admiral fandom you're welcome

That's pretty dumb, near dead Luffy and Kaido pulled up Bajrang and Flaming Dragon respectively, Zoro pulled KoH etc

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Admiral fandom you're welcome

Bro literally non-prime Kuzan was punching as hard as prime Garp lmfao

 

[SkySanji]

Cope. Let's see in the battledome how some Yonkou perform fruitless with bare fists against Garp.

Yonkou fandom, you're welcome.

AssmiraL fans can't read apparently, either that or they want to pretend that Kuzan did this for literally no reason and it's not using his fruit.

Kuzan covers his hand with a technique called "Ice Glove".

 

[Boiroy]

It's gonna be both.


Shiryu and Fuji for Zoro (and later he gets Mihawk as the "separation" between them)

Sanji can only fight Aokiji in bbp match up if he's weaker than Shiryu 😌

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Not appreciating Shiryu's indecency is going against the whole point of his character
He knew Garp would intercept his sneak attack which is why he targetted Coby, and laughed maniacally when it worked

Shiryu is a sneaky, bloodthirsty, dirty bastard and it should be welcomed.

 

[HA001]

This doesn't make sense because 2 sec before Akainu overpowered Ace and told him that he's weaker, can you tell me when Shiryu did that?

Yes shiryu kept attacking garp. It says so kuzan only comes back at the end does one attack AND GETS SENT FLYING NOT TO BE SEEN AGAIN

 

[LadyVados]

Pica fought sneaky too, doesn't mean he isn't 100 times stronger than Hyozou

Eh ?

Where did you get that from ? Hyozou is probably > Pica.

 

[Dragon777]

Kuzan real disciple of Black Arm Zephyr.

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

You know ndule is the one bringing him up right? No one else cares about that hody level antagonist lol

Hody level

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

why wouldnt he go invisible if he knew garp would sense the attack anyway? He just made his fakery more believable.
You can't pretend this is about koby when the characters themselves are telling us it isnt

What's the propose of making it believable when shiryu is the enemy attacking garps student anyway? Lol

 

[MarineHQ]

Not a debunk my dude
We simply dont know how we would fare
Its the same shit as akainu keep downplaying

But I'm not downplaying. I find Shiryu badass in this chapter but at the end of the day he cooked up an underhanded method to catch Garp, that's totally legitimate and still no Top Tier feat.
Koby literally apologises.

Right
It was Aokiji's fight and Shiryu couldn't be bothered.

Why fight Garp get roughed up and have a bad day when he can just chill


That is irrelevant to power progression in One Piece, Pica fought sneaky too, doesn't mean he isn't 100 times stronger than Hyozou. King also had a Lunara trick.

Shiryu ranges from King to Old Garp (strongest Low Top) but I can't see him equal to any mid top tier ever bro

 

[Peroroncino]

Bro literally non-prime Kuzan was punching as hard as prime Garp lmfao

matched weakened garp, good feat

 

[Jaguark101]

Garp goated

 

[Peroroncino]

What's the propose of making it believable when shiryu is the enemy attacking garps student anyway? Lol

because he actually wanted to attack garp and not koby? Are the spoilers not clear enough?

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

But like Garp wanted his grandson to be top tier marine like him.
He instead became greatest or worst criminal ever.

true,but it‘s the greatest

 

[zzShinichi]

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

It's not just that.
Summary confirms that in fact Kuzan packs same striking force like younger Garp (when the latter trained him) and matched him in a pure cqc fight when Kuzan merely used ice gloves instead of the stuff which he has shown in Punk Hazard.

Yes, Garp became weaker but it's still confirmed that Kuzan packs comparable strength to Garp's younger version.

I just don't even see MF Garp to beat Kuzan or even Akainu. Prime Garp is another whole topic tho.

Garp went down because of shiryu's stab + old age already weakened him , having a similar raw strength /=/ similar AP ; Garp is an adv coc user for a reason and his portrayal is besides Roger and WB whilst Aokiji isn't there at all

 

[OPKnK]

Shiryu tanks point blank conqueror punch
Thats good feat

How is that a good feat , if the man could not tank that he would be worst than Pay pay .

 

[Doggo]

Sanji can only fight Aokiji in bbp match up if he's weaker than Shiryu 😌

Ok.


I like Shiryu as well.
Should it be some sort of "L"?

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Bro literally non-prime Kuzan was punching as hard as prime Garp lmfao

They weren't looked to use fruit ability nor haki. So it still wasn't the same