Questions & Mysteries Why People Deny the Fact That Helmeppo and Koby Will Be Rivals for Zoro and Luffy?

[Peroroncino]

Vergo is stronger then current base Sanji?

Yes sanji needs the RS to win

 

[LordVinsmoke]

Yes sanji needs the RS to win

 

[wereng99]

so in short Helmepo >> Sanji?

 

[Silver]

so in short Helmepo >> Sanji?

 

[Finalbeta]

Yes sanji needs the RS to win

I actually would have liked to have a glance at Current RSless Sanji vs Page One to see how he would have fared.

 

[Peroroncino]

I actually would have liked to have a glance at Current RSless Sanji vs Page One to see how he would have fared.

They were equals even with the RS

 

[Broreo]

koby maybe but helmeppo a rival to zoro ????????

 

[Finalbeta]

They were equals even with the RS

I think Queen is consistently more powerful than Page One most likely but it's yet not clear whether or not Sanji will 1on1 him entirely and with which difficulty vanquish him and also how much Oda made him grow since that encounter but I'm spotting a pattern that indicates that probably he grew a lot during the very arc somehow or else he purposefully didn't show what he had gotten against PO and yet defeating him would have been useful.

 

[DizzyBrows]

Because Oda does a horrible job at showing their "Progress". Realistically from the perspective of a reader it's very hard to imagine those 2 being legit rivals for Luffy and Zoro even though you have slight hints towards it at least on the Koby side of things. If the end of EL was any sort of indication of what's to come with the dynamic between the 4 of them then they are all going to be relative by the end of the series

 

[Lee-Sensei]

Because Oda does a horrible job at showing their "Progress". Realistically from the perspective of a reader it's very hard to imagine those 2 being legit rivals for Luffy and Zoro even though you have slight hints towards it at least on the Koby side of things. If the end of EL was any sort of indication of what's to come with the dynamic between the 4 of them then they are all going to be relative by the end of the series

Enies Lobby was literally almost 2 decades ago. I don’t think Helmeppo is ever going to be equal to Zoro, but sooner or later Luffy and Zoro are going to max out and Koby is probably going to close the gap. If I had to guess, I’d say that Koby is at the level of one of Doflamingo’s executives. Wano is probably going to have an intermission soon and we’ll probably find out how he did on Amazon Lily. If he gets curbstomped, then he’ll probably only reach the Top in a distant epilogue. If he wins, the gap is probably going to be mostly closed by the Final War.

 

[ShogunRyoma]

Koby is the GOAT!

 

[Herrera95]

Try Franky and Brook instead.

 

[Toryu]

Koby has been taking L after L, what makes people still want to hype him? Madness.

The less said about the other guy the better

 

[GoldDiamond]

been taking L after L

What L's? you got him confuse for another marine

 

[[No Name]]

Waiting for all these years? It was worth it

 

[L57]

Waiting for all these years? It was worth it

Yeah coby now can rival dr zoro
And helmeppo can rival pre ts zoro

 

[GUI VI]

For Koby and Helmeppo to be Luffy and Zoro's rivals, they will have to be above Admiral level.

 

[BigAmmi]

Helmeppo can rival Buggy at most

Prime Koby needs a power level similiar to IM/Joy boy to rival prime Luffy

and i doubt that Oda will push Koby so far

He will be stronger than Zoro, Sabo, Law ecc for sure IMO but not more

sadly

 

[SkySanji]

Waiting for all these years? It was worth it

Nothing has changed though, neither are anywhere even remotely close to rivalling Luffy or Zoro.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Some of the Anti-Sanji posts here aged like monkey's doodoo, love it.