Controversial General Political Discussion

[Mr. Reloaded]

I'll go back to my conversation that AL just hijacked:

@Mr. Reloaded , did you watch the video I linked to you ?

Yes.

Now I'm confused. What did that have to do with anything?

 

[Uncle Van]

Wrong. I called your STATEMENT evil (there is no such things as evil person) because you told me that we shouldn't fight for disable people right for accessibility.

In other word, if what you are saying to me is true, it means you have internalized the violence of our society to bring it back to my face because yeah.. I'm also a disable person. So sorry but you being disable is not an excuse, in fact its worse, because you know the problem and you refuse to do something about it, preferring the current status quo for people like us.



I'm speechless and I have hard time understanding how someone can say in 2023 that we shouldn't fight for more equity.

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I'll take that as a no then.

Equality is way more important than equity, but equity is important too. There's a reason why there are special accommodations for people with disabilities.

 

[Logiko]

People do evil things. They become evil people... Why you deflecting, unless you don't mind the actions they've done...

Because there is no such thing as evil person. That's called existentialism and this is the reason why we - in 2023 - still don't understand how criminal function.

Now I'm confused. What did that have to do with anything?

Are you still sure that language don't shape the way we think ?

Equality is way more important than equity, but equity is important too. There's a reason why there are special accommodations for people with disabilities.

Indeed. Even tho I think the concept of equity is far more important. But that's a detail

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Are you still sure that language don't shape the way we think ?

Oh I get what she's saying, but what does that have to do with our conversation earlier?

 

[Logiko]

Oh I get what she's saying, but what does that have to do with our conversation earlier?

Because you said to me that "fake wokeness" was when person were fighting about pronoun.

The purpose of the fight for a more inclusive langage is linked to the process that langage shape the way we think.

For example, if you include neutral pronouns in a grammar, then all of a sudden, you can include person with different type of gender identity in said langage. Which means that not only you will create a more inclusive langage, but this inclusivity will be felt in real society too.

Example : imagine a language were there is only male pronoun. Then you create a society were women are invisibilized through langage, which can lead to real invisibility in real world. But add "her" and you transform the way we think society.

This is why you can see people fight for a more inclusive language.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

What's the topic boys

 

[Ravagerblade]

Because there is no such thing as evil person. That's called existentialism and this is the reason why we - in 2023 - still don't understand how criminal function.



Are you still sure that language don't shape the way we think ?



Indeed. Even tho I think the concept of equity is far more important. But that's a detail

Haha, You will do and say anything to flip a conversation, You care for nothing but think your side is the correct side...

 

[Logiko]

What's the topic boys

Wokeness

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Because you said to me that "fake wokeness" was when person were fighting about pronoun.

The purpose of the fight for a more inclusive langage is linked to the process that langage shape the way we think.

For example, if you include neutral pronouns in a grammar, then all of a sudden, you can include person with different type of gender identity in said langage. Which means that not only you will create a more inclusive langage, but this inclusivity will be felt in real society too.

Example : imagine a language were there is only male pronoun. Then you create a society were women are invisibilized through langage, which can lead to real invisibility in real world. But add "her" and you transform the way we think society.

This is why you can see people fight for a more inclusive language.

I get it now!​

 

[Logiko]

Haha, You will do and day anything to flip a conversation, You care for nothing but think your side is the correct side...

Where am I wrong ?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Wokeness

It's now the late Industrial Revolution and its consequences on society

 

[Ravagerblade]

Because you said to me that "fake wokeness" was when person were fighting about pronoun.

The purpose of the fight for a more inclusive langage is linked to the process that langage shape the way we think.

For example, if you include neutral pronouns in a grammar, then all of a sudden, you can include person with different type of gender identity in said langage. Which means that not only you will create a more inclusive langage, but this inclusivity will be felt in real society too.

Example : imagine a language were there is only male pronoun. Then you create a society were women are invisibilized through langage, which can lead to real invisibility in real world. But add "her" and you transform the way we think society.

This is why you can see people fight for a more inclusive language.

There is no other Identity, what's been for the last 3 millenia has worked out just fine, mentally unfit people are the ones who think otherwise.

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Where am I wrong ?

You are absolutely on the wrong side... Too far to extreme.

 

[Logiko]

It's now the late Industrial Revolution and its consequences on society

Sorry, I didn't get that. Can you rephrase ?

There is no other Identity, what's been for the last 3 millenia has worked out just fine, mentally unfit people are the ones who think otherwise.

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You are absolutely on the wrong side... Too far to extreme.

I think I will stop talking with you on this subject, seeing as you are not open for a discussion.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Sorry, I didn't get that. Can you rephrase ?

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Sorry, I didn't get that. Can you rephrase ?



I think I will stop talking with you on this subject, seeing as you are not open for a discussion.

That's not how it works. You can't run away from problems, that why we're having problems in the first place, too damn soft...
If you can't handle opposition, maybe this place isn't for you instead of hoping to snag like-minded people and have this place be an echo chamber.

 

[NAMELESS]

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

How so?

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its over midnight here,i will read c4n embarrassing himself tomorrow.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

How so?

They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world.

 

[NAMELESS]

They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world.

and it has also systematically reduced poverty world wide.It is what it is,people were born to work.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

and it has also systematically reduced poverty world wide.It is what it is,people where born to work.

The continued development of technology will worsen the situation.

 

[NAMELESS]

The continued development of technology will worsen the situation.

nope,better tech=cheaper goods=cheaper life cost.What we need is to figure out an answer to the energy-food-water problem.If we figure that out we are golden.