Current Events Who is the "Big Bad" of Egghead Island

[Juanpiz]

It's a shared role like sabbody (Kizaru /Sentamaru /pacifista/kuma)

 

[BOCCHI]

Both Kizaru and Saturn are doing the same thing - carrying out orders of eliminating Vegapunks and securing more dosages of Mother Flame that Imu requested. Most people will say Saturn due to higher authority but he is a cog in a machine just like Kizaru is.
It is also possible that another party shows up, like the man with the Burn scar and turns out to be the big bad instead.

I agree on everything except the last part. Oda isn’t gonna add the man with burned scar like that and now. He is most likely reserved for next arc or Elbaf where he is gonna be a main player early on the arc.

 

[bluefire12]

Someone else entering the scene doesn't sound far fetched. I would call neither Kizaru nor Saturn "big bad". Saturn's only purpose is, most likely, to
1) Take back control of the Seraphim
2) Somehow counteract Vegapunk's science based defense mechanisms with his own scientific knowledge

The Gorosei won't just step out of their home turf to fight. They haven't even expected the strawhats to gain the upper hand, they thought they will just come for the leftovers.

Yeah Caribou Boss

 

[Juanpiz]

Btw it is payback time for Kizaru after sabbody and Marineford

 

[Paperchampion23]

@Paperchampion23 I already answered you here.
Do you understand what a Surprise Introduction is?

Name me One Person from Loguetown who expected Dragon to be there?
Answer same question for Whiskey Peak & Robin? Same question for Jaya & Blackbeard?
Long Ring Land & Aokiji? Water 7 & Garp? Sabaody & Kuma? Punk Hazard & Aokiji again?

These Characters are like Guests in their respective Arcs, Unrelated to it's Main Plot.
Saturn/Kizaru don't fit this Description at all, not even close, They are instead the Main Obstacle of the Arc, almost every Chapter was preparing us for them.

And those Characters i mentioned are Stronger than Villains who stand in SH's Way.
As i said, they represent a Warning for Unprecedented Danger, which Oda always uses to Hype the Upcoming Major Plot.

And again, you quite literally contradict yourself considering 80% of the people you mention are not antagonists.

For all we know, the "surprise" character can just be Smoker lmao

Edit: And i "get" the point you are going for, but it clearly does not work for WCI or Wano. Nobody surprising was there that were far stronger than the Yonko. This is not a pattern Oda conciously thinks of

 

[SakazOuki]

Who is the big bad on Egghead -> Saturn
Who is the big good on Egghead -> Vegapunk

 

[Blother Fertitta]

I just don’t see yet how Saturn an old fat geezer who’s hiding from fake Yonko Luffy could take out Kizaru, therefore Kizaru + 9 VAs are the threats

If he was some Kaido ass mfer he would be like **** IM HERE WHATS GOOOD

B4 y’all say his plan is to be discreet, the WG and Gorosei do not have a good track record of finessing plans ON GOD lmfao

 

[Salah WG]

And again, you quite literally contradict yourself considering 80% of the people you mention are not antagonists.

For all we know, the "surprise" character can just be Smoker lmao

I never said They must be Antagonists
I said: "Sometimes They face this Threat, and sometimes They only learn of how Dangerous They are before avoiding them"
And i explained repeatedly that They mostly serve as Warning for what's to come

Dragon Hyped Grand Line
Big Mom Hyped New World
Robin Hyped Fight against Crocodile's Organization
Aokiji Teased Danger of having Robin
BB Teased Sky Island's Existence
Garp warned them
Kuma Separated them
Aokiji again Hyped Fight against Doflamingo
... etc

And No, it won't be Smoker, cuz these Characters are always Stronger than the ones Luffy was Fighting.
Tbh, i don't see why you bother to react to a Theory you don't agree with, all you do is show that you disagree & laugh, are you 12?
If some Character gets a Surprise Appearance in Egghead or not, how does it bother you?

The only time i used the word Antagonists was when i said "Saturn & Kizaru are still this Arc's Main Antagonists"
Since you clearly don't even bother to read what i wrote, please continue by not bothering me as well

 

[gz89]

I just don’t see yet how Saturn an old fat geezer who’s hiding from fake Yonko Luffy could take out Kizaru, therefore Kizaru + 9 VAs are the threats

If he was some Kaido ass mfer he would be like **** IM HERE WHATS GOOOD

B4 y’all say his plan is to be discreet, the WG and Gorosei do not have a good track record of finessing plans ON GOD lmfao

While i'm not a fan of these geezers ending up as demigods, the guy has scars.

I doubt he got them fighting against scrubs like Jack and Daifuku.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I never said They must be Antagonists
I said: "Sometimes They face this Threat, and sometimes They only learn of how Dangerous They are before avoiding them"
And i explained repeatedly that They mostly serve as Warning for what's to come

Dragon Hyped Grand Line
Big Mom Hyped New World
Robin Hyped Fight against Crocodile's Organization
Aokiji Teased Danger of having Robin
BB Teased Sky Island's Existence
Garp warned them
Kuma Separated them
Aokiji again Hyped Fight against Doflamingo
... etc

And No, it won't be Smoker, cuz these Characters are always Stronger than the ones Luffy was Fighting.
Tbh, i don't see why you bother to react to a Theory you don't agree with, all you do is show that you disagree & laugh, are you 12?
If some Character gets a Surprise Appearance in Egghead or not, how does it bother you?

The only time i used the word Antagonists was when i said "Saturn & Kizaru are still this Arc's Main Antagonists"
Since you clearly don't even bother to read what i wrote, please continue by not bothering me as well

Excuse me, I read every fucking word. This is what you said from the first post I quoted you on. Read your last words.

What does this mean?

CP-0 will become Allies ---> Already Happened
Kizaru's Fleet are gonna suffer a Humiliating Defeat ---> Those i mentioned above got Defeated in an Overwhelming Way
New Character is gonna arrive at Egghead & He is Stronger than everybody Present (This is Arc's Big Bad)

You quite literally state that someone else is going to arrive at Egghead and become the main antagonist. Then you randomly switched to the narrative that Kizaru and group are the main antagonists, which....is exaclty what I agree with.

Its not that I cant read. Its that you cant keep your point straight.

Edit: And if you are saying "arc" as in "saga", you never clarified it.

 

[Salah WG]

Excuse me, I read every fucking word. This is what you said from the first post I quoted you on. Read your last words.


You quite literally state that someone else is going to arrive at Egghead and become the main antagonist. Then you randomly switched to the narrative that Kizaru and group are the main antagonists, which....is exaclty what I agree with.

Its not that I cant read. Its that you cant keep your point straight.

Edit: And if you are saying "arc" as in "saga", you never clarified it.

Focus please.
You said "Most Surprise Characters aren't Enemies". I replied "I never said They must be Antagonists". Then reminded you that i clarified: "Sometimes They face this Threat, and sometimes They only learn of how Dangerous They are before avoiding them"

So i never included a Rule that they must be Enemies, nor a Rule that They must be Allies, but They are always considered a Threat, as in Very Powerful Individuals. And there is no Rule on how They gonna interact with SHs, but They always serve as Hype /Warning for what's to come.

Me adding a comment that this Arc's Surprise Character is Big Bad doesn't change anything i said above, it's just my opinion that He is not gonna be on Luffy's Team.

Long Ring is Foxy's Arc but we still got Aokiji at the End.
So i believe Egghead is Saturn's Arc (Or Kizaru however you see it), but i think a Stronger Bad Guy gonna be Introduced soon.

 

[BigAmmi]

Saturn:BigMom=Kizaru:Katakuri


BigMom was the boss of the saga but Luffy fought Katakuri and now most of the fandom consider Katakuri the boss of WCI

Saturn, stronger or weaker than Kizaru, is the highest autority here, so basically he his the big bad

But Nika will fight Kizaru

So...

 

[Paperchampion23]

Focus please.
You said "Most Surprise Characters aren't Enemies". I replied "I never said They must be Antagonists". Then reminded you that i clarified: "Sometimes They face this Threat, and sometimes They only learn of how Dangerous They are before avoiding them"

So i never included a Rule that they must be Enemies, nor a Rule that They must be Allies, but They are always considered a Threat, as in Very Powerful Individuals. And there is no Rule on how They gonna interact with SHs, but They always serve as Hype /Warning for what's to come.

Me adding a comment that this Arc's Surprise Character is Big Bad doesn't change anything i said above, it's just my opinion that He is not gonna be on Luffy's Team.

Long Ring is Foxy's Arc but we still got Aokiji at the End.
So i believe Egghead is Saturn's Arc (Or Kizaru however you see it), but i think a Stronger Bad Guy gonna be Introduced soon.

No bro, you focus:

Thats not "each" saga lmao. You arbitrary left out nearly every major arc in order to make that point.

Kizaru and his fleet are the antagonists. Nobody else is showing up here save for 2 blackbeard captains looking to do something.

My first comment to you.
You went off on a tangent about your patterns meaning anything but the subject, that being a surprise character coming will be the true antagonist.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[Malio]

Look it's one of those Vice Admirals that the admiral femboys value so highly....getting stalemated by some French dude

 

[bluefire12]

Look it's one of those Vice Admirals that the admiral femboys value so highly....getting stalemated by some French dude

Doll is different she a from the draft

 

[MarineHQ]

Does Lord Chin scare you all this much ?

 

[Malio]

Doll is different she a from the draft

Wouldn't get my hopes up at all. She's a female character

 

[bluefire12]

Wouldn't get my hopes up at all. She's a female character

We will see about that

 

[Reborn]

Imo, they at least leave with Caribou, who will tell them about Shirahoshi and Pluton. Imo, Blackbeard's probably the guy he's referring to (unless its the burned man since he's trying to hide his name or something)

I can imagine they only sailed to Egghead because he called them, otherwise, I assume they were trying to also kidnap VP.

I don't think it's BB to whom caribou was referring to.

I feel it's Burned man.

Also, BBP arrived before Morgan news about egghead so I don't think BBP knew know SHs are at egghead so if they were really came for Caribou then they had time after wano or after egghead.

They are there for some other reason.

We are getting too 1:1 example on this stuff, it never works out with patterns people try to employ. The only thing we know is Saturn does not want to be involved at first, that lends credence that he may not be a Luffy fight to begin with

Disagree.

Saturn was not interested in involving before york dropped the call of save her from luffy.

This just one act changes everything.

Before york conversation

• WG wanted to kill/capture all VPs including york
• Take seras back
• Saturn felt kizaru is enough for this so he said no one should about his presence (also it would be big deal if World finds out Gorosei is on the move)

During york conversation - things changed

WG now wants to take power plant and york for mother flames which means they need to secure egghead and York safety at any cost


But york is held hostage by a yonkou crew...

This changes everything.

Saturn will make a move now because lots a massive weapon is at stake now and not just info related to void century