Current Events Anyone Who Believes The Egghead Vice Admirals Will Job Is A Hypocrite

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#1
You know who I’m talking about lmfao.

These people say “the Vice Admirals are complete jobbers, the Straw Hats will low diff them”

And then literally in the exact same breath they will say “Egghead is being set up to be a shocking victory for the Straw Hats!”

…So where exactly is the shocking part of this victory if everyone already expects the Straw Hats to win lmfao.

Let’s reiterate what we know about the result of Egghead:


The incident at Egghead is resolved in a “shocking” manner. If you ask any 13 year old idiot and Mr Morj, they will tell you that Oda is establishing Egghead as a series of victories for the Yonko before they all meet at Raftel. They will also tell you that the Marine Fleet and Vice Admirals stand no chance against the Straw Hat Pirates.

….So where exactly is the “shocking” part of that victory supposed to come in if the Vice Admirals job exactly? “No one expects the Vice Admirals to lose!” Sounds like fucking everyone expects them to lose lmfao.

If the Straw Hats low diff the Vice Admirals, and Luffy beats Kizaru/Saturn or whoever, where is the shocking part of this outcome? Sounds like everyone already expects the Straw Hats to beat this fleet, so the Straw Hats beating the Fleet would not be shocking at all lol.

Many of these same individuals would argue (incorrectly) that the One Piece world sees the Yonko as being stronger than the Admirals. But if Luffy defeats Kizaru, what is shocking about that if everyone already thinks Luffy is above Kizaru? The same logic applies to Saturn. If the OP world perceives the Yonko as being stronger than the Gorosei, there is nothing shocking about Luffy beating Saturn lol.

This would be the equivalent of arguing that Kaido defeating Kid was some kind of shocking outcome lol. “The world never saw Kaido’s victory over Kid coming”

“Oh but Lucci said he refuses to accept Luffy as a Yonko so that means the entire world still underestimates Luffy” it just goes to show how fragile Yonko fans’ ego is, literally one guy in canon says he refuses to acknowledge Luffy and all of the sudden “LuFfY nEeDs To PrOvE hIs YoNkO sTaTuS tO ThE wOrLd!!”

So these guys simultaneously believe that the entire world thinks Luffy > Kizaru/Saturn and therefore a Luffy victory over Kizaru/Saturn would for some reason be shocking even though apparently everyone believes it anyway, but they also believe that Lucci refusing to acknowledge Luffy means that Luffy somehow needs to prove himself to the entire world lmfao.

I always laugh at people who think Egghead is about the Straw Hats proving themselves to be Yonko. It just goes to show what a miserable failure Wano was. The whole point of that arc was supposed to be the Straw Hats proving themselves to be Yonko level by literally fighting and defeating a Yonko crew. But Wano was such an abysmal failure that Luffy still needs to prove he is a Yonko, apparently,

Now look, the idea that the Straw Hats will actually defeat the Egghead Fleet is actually not a bad one. The Straw Hats have Vegapunk on their side who may as well represent an entire great power by himself at this point. If Vegapunk turns the full power of his scientific might against the Fleet (which already doesn’t want to destroy Egghead) alongside an entire Yonko crew, then the Marines and Saturn being defeated is not completely far-fetched.

But again, you guys have to understand that Egghead will result in a shocking outcome, and the Straw Hats beating a bunch of characters who everyone already believes stand no chance against them anyway is not shocking in the slightest, lol.

Inb4 a bunch of AI 13 year olds spam cope emotes because their programmers only wrote one algorithm into them before getting bored with them lol.

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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#5
This is only true if Admirals > Yonko. A Yonko defeating an Admiral is only shocking if the Yonko are the weaker group.

:araboss:
Yonkou are losing all the time, the world is completely desensitized to it. No one gave a rats ass about Kaidou and BM both losing together.

An Admiral falling to a pirate is unprecedented.
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
#9
You know who I’m talking about lmfao.

These people say “the Vice Admirals are complete jobbers, the Straw Hats will low diff them”

And then literally in the exact same breath they will say “Egghead is being set up to be a shocking victory for the Straw Hats!”

…So where exactly is the shocking part of this victory if everyone already expects the Straw Hats to win lmfao.

Let’s reiterate what we know about the result of Egghead:


The incident at Egghead is resolved in a “shocking” manner. If you ask any 13 year old idiot and Mr Morj, they will tell you that Oda is establishing Egghead as a series of victories for the Yonko before they all meet at Raftel. They will also tell you that the Marine Fleet and Vice Admirals stand no chance against the Straw Hat Pirates.

….So where exactly is the “shocking” part of that victory supposed to come in if the Vice Admirals job exactly? “No one expects the Vice Admirals to lose!” Sounds like fucking everyone expects them to lose lmfao.

If the Straw Hats low diff the Vice Admirals, and Luffy beats Kizaru/Saturn or whoever, where is the shocking part of this outcome? Sounds like everyone already expects the Straw Hats to beat this fleet, so the Straw Hats beating the Fleet would not be shocking at all lol.

Many of these same individuals would argue (incorrectly) that the One Piece world sees the Yonko as being stronger than the Admirals. But if Luffy defeats Kizaru, what is shocking about that if everyone already thinks Luffy is above Kizaru? The same logic applies to Saturn. If the OP world perceives the Yonko as being stronger than the Gorosei, there is nothing shocking about Luffy beating Saturn lol.

This would be the equivalent of arguing that Kaido defeating Kid was some kind of shocking outcome lol. “The world never saw Kaido’s victory over Kid coming”

“Oh but Lucci said he refuses to accept Luffy as a Yonko so that means the entire world still underestimates Luffy” it just goes to show how fragile Yonko fans’ ego is, literally one guy in canon says he refuses to acknowledge Luffy and all of the sudden “LuFfY nEeDs To PrOvE hIs YoNkO sTaTuS tO ThE wOrLd!!”

So these guys simultaneously believe that the entire world thinks Luffy > Kizaru/Saturn and therefore a Luffy victory over Kizaru/Saturn would for some reason be shocking even though apparently everyone believes it anyway, but they also believe that Lucci refusing to acknowledge Luffy means that Luffy somehow needs to prove himself to the entire world lmfao.

I always laugh at people who think Egghead is about the Straw Hats proving themselves to be Yonko. It just goes to show what a miserable failure Wano was. The whole point of that arc was supposed to be the Straw Hats proving themselves to be Yonko level by literally fighting and defeating a Yonko crew. But Wano was such an abysmal failure that Luffy still needs to prove he is a Yonko, apparently,

Now look, the idea that the Straw Hats will actually defeat the Egghead Fleet is actually not a bad one. The Straw Hats have Vegapunk on their side who may as well represent an entire great power by himself at this point. If Vegapunk turns the full power of his scientific might against the Fleet (which already doesn’t want to destroy Egghead) alongside an entire Yonko crew, then the Marines and Saturn being defeated is not completely far-fetched.

But again, you guys have to understand that Egghead will result in a shocking outcome, and the Straw Hats beating a bunch of characters who everyone already believes stand no chance against them anyway is not shocking in the slightest, lol.

Inb4 a bunch of AI 13 year olds spam cope emotes because their programmers only wrote one algorithm into them before getting bored with them lol.

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If Zoro fights a Vice Admiral he T-Bones them.

I don't make the rules.
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The incident at Egghead is resolved in a “shocking” manner. If you ask any 13 year old idiot and Mr Morj, they will tell you that Oda is establishing Egghead as a series of victories for the Yonko before they all meet at Raftel. They will also tell you that the Marine Fleet and Vice Admirals stand no chance against the Straw Hat Pirates.

….So where exactly is the “shocking” part of that victory supposed to come in if the Vice Admirals job exactly? “No one expects the Vice Admirals to lose!” Sounds like fucking everyone expects them to lose lmfao.

If the Straw Hats low diff the Vice Admirals, and Luffy beats Kizaru/Saturn or whoever, where is the shocking part of this outcome? Sounds like everyone already expects the Straw Hats to beat this fleet, so the Straw Hats beating the Fleet would not be shocking at all lol.
It's shocking to characters in the One Piece world, not to the One Piece readers.

The One Piece world does not expect the Strawhats to achieve an overwhelming victory.
 
#10
It’s hilarious tbh. Supposedly Yonko Luffy and his underlings should make easy work of the Navy Fleet (even though Yonko Luffy is literally using a hostage to run away from it lol) according to WG’s powerscalers yet at the same time they claim the shocking event Oda has been teasing to the readers for over 10 chapters is defeating that same fleet.
Not that I mind Kizaru’s downfall being a much bigger deal than two emperors though lol
 
#12
Powerwise, the VAs will undoubtedly job to any character that matters. They are still a force to be reckoned with for the mid-lower Straw Hats but that's it.

However, power level discussions are about proper fights, here we are talking about 30.000 marines and I believe 100 ships. We saw how much numbers mattered for Oda during Wano and Onigashima, always keeping the count of the forces on each side (even though ultimately nothing of that truly mattered because "unless Luffy beats Kaido, none of the other victories will have mattered"). Even fodder smile users drained Zoro down with sheer numbers.

Whether the VAs are jobbers or not is unrelated to the marine force being gathered being a threat to the Straw Hats unless they attempt to 1v1 anyone from the monster trio.

Regarding whatever will shock the world, the battle itself should be impressive, sure, but we have Kizaru, Vegapunk and Saturn involved. Anything significant that happens to those three (albeit not necessarily dying or even being killed) is likely to shock the world (and possibly the readers as well).
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#14
Lucci: "I will not acknowledge you as a Yonko"
Bonney: "Is he really a Yonko?"
Greenbull: "Im going to cut his head and give it to Akainu"
Bounties --> 3 Billion for Luffy/Kidd/Law each.
Lilith: "This crew looks like clowns"

Clearly Oda has spent time and effort showing how OP world still underestimates Luffy's Yonko title. And when Oda is clearly Distinguishing the final Competitors for One Piece from the has-beens - you really think SHs wont win overwhelmingly vs the unprecedented Armada?

Lol. But apparently we're the Hypocrites.
 
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CensoredbyWG

#15
Straw Hats have been winning every arc since the post-timeskip started, can anyone tell me what’s exactly the point of teasing a « shocking event » through the narrator twice if it was about another complete victory lol
Probably has more to do with lore than power scalling + there is also SH fleet that could pull up now.
 
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