Speculations Will Imu-sama be the final great enemy or not?

[Sasaki Kojirō]

With Blackbeard getting his hands on a significant bargaining chip, which is Garp-san, he can practically demand a lot from the government now. The situation is similar to Kaido's, who had the government eating out of his hand to the extent that Orochi's demands included sending Vegapunk to Wano to work under Kaido's command for the WSC.

The thing is, we are focusing too much on Luffy vs. Imu-sama, but I believe that the one currently more connected to taking down Imu-sama is Blackbeard. Notice that one of his ships is in Egg Island, so Blackbeard might acquire his final fruit and find a way to defeat the immortal Imu-sama. Blackbeard doesn't necessarily need to succeed in piracy and become the Pirate King; he could take a different path and become the King of the World. In the end, we might have the Pirate King versus the King of the World, with Blackbeard and Luffy facing each other at the top.

That being said, what do you think is the power level of Imu-sama?

• Peak Peak Top Tier (Kaidou)
• Peak Top Tier (Roger/Primebeard)
• High Top Tier (Shanks)
• Mid Top Tier (Greenbull/Fujitora)

After finding out that is a weapon produced by Vegapunk that wiped out the kingdom of Lulusia, Imu-sama doesn't seem to give the impression of being very strong anymore. Their display of power was against Sabo, who was being attacked simultaneously while carrying a crippled old man in a wheelchair. I would say that Kaidou's introduction, defeating Kid, Killer, Hawkins, Apoo, and the other members of their respective crews, and finally, in Wano, defeating Luffy using only the basic form with just one strike, was more impressive.

Do you think Imu-sama is conveying that feeling of being an overpowering villain?



@comrade @nik87 @Hanzo hattori @MonsterKaido @Red Admiral @Erkan12 @Tejas @Veku

 

[MonsterKaido]

I stand to my point that imu is the final villain. There's a good chance they have a mythical zoan as they transformed after taking Sabo's attack.

BB also has chance to be one.

Imu for me is Kaido 2.0

 

[Kotone]

I see Ima as FV

 

[Salah WG]

I believe One Piece Ending was split into Three Parts related to Samurai, Knights & Vikings
And They were set to each represent one of Story's Key Aspects which are Power, Wealth & Fame
And for each Part, Oda created Two Major Villains, representing Embodiments of Three Qualities that i just mentioned

SHs already faced "Power" Representatives Kaidou & Big Mom
With Kaidou being the "Main Fight", while Big Mom was Secondary Villain who represented "Power-Tax"

Now, SHs are gonna face "Wealth" Representative + "Wealth-Tax" Representative.
Meaning, just like Kaidou was Introduced as "Strongest", while Big Mom was Introduced as Queen with Soul Tax
There is a Legend in OP about "Richest" Person, in addition to a Queen/King who imposes a Wealth Tax on People

Imu is this Second Part's Big Mom, instead of Soul Tax, She has Heavenly Tribute, making her this Part's Secondary Main Villain.
Who is Embodiment of Wealth in OP World? Foxy already told us that it's "Davy Jones"

And after these Two are dealt with, it's gonna be time for Embodiment of "Fame", meaning someone that entire World thinks about & you can't get more Famous than him, who's gonna be Final Villain of entire Story, in addition to Main Secondary Villain of Story. They are none other than "Sea God" mentioned during Fishmen Island & basically OP World's Main Religious Figure, and accompanied by Sea Devil (Blackbeard)

So in my opinion, Final Villains of One Piece are:

06. Big Mom
05. Kaidou
04. Imu (It's possible that Imu is combination of CD Queen & Davy Jones, cuz Imu means Adam + Eve & doesn't seem like Single Person)
03. Davy Jones
02. Sea Devil (Blackbeard's Final Form)
01. Sea God

Against Kaidou, Luffy sacrificed his "Life" which represented his "Power"
I believe against Davy Jones/Imu, He will sacrifice his "Hat" which represents his "Wealth"
And against Sea God, He will sacrifice his "Crew" which represents his "Fame"

All these Three Sacrifices happened in the Past, as Nika was indeed killed once by an Azure Dragon, hence Shandians Sacrifice to Blue Snake & believing it would reunite them with Nika, and We also saw that Imu does have an Ancient Hat, and We also read about Vander Decken who Sacrificed his Crew in front of Sea God

Luffy is simply "Correcting" The Past

 

[nik87]

I think fight against Imu will be just the start of the final part of PK race.
All 4 Emperors will obtain the last Road Poneglyph that is in Mariejois and then they will go after the Laugh Tale.
They will eventually clash either on Laugh Tale or on Lodestar and fight it out to determine who gets to claim the treasure.

Imu's power level should be inferior to Kaido's unless he is the reason why Kaido's rumor is a rumor.
He seems like a Zoan so most likely slightly weaker than Kaido.
Nothing about Imu's personality is known and cramping everything into a single arc will fail like Oden's character failed.

That's what Buggy, Shanks and Blackbeard have over Imu, long build-up and very detailed character.
What makes One Piece is unique are Devil Fruits after all and Blackbeard is the only guy who can eat several of them.
I think he is the final villain but I think Grim Reaper could appear after him, however, he is Zoro's plotline and not Luffy's.

 

[Aldarion]

I'd say Imu is the final villain. Remember that being the Pirate King is not the final goal. Luffy says it himself: he wants to be the Pirate King because Pirate King is the freest person on the seas. Person with most freedom in the world.

And who stands in the way of freedom? Imu and the world government. Roger became the Pirate King, but he himself said they were too early.

And Blackbeard too wants to overthrow the World Government, but for the opposite purpose of Luffy.

So as I see it, Luffy and Blackbeard will clash over One Piece. But that will just be a stepping stone towards the final conflict against Imu and the World Government.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Imu - Mythical Zoan plus future tech = Strongest in the verse.

 

[Peenix]

With Blackbeard getting his hands on a significant bargaining chip, which is Garp-san, he can practically demand a lot from the government now. The situation is similar to Kaido's, who had the government eating out of his hand to the extent that Orochi's demands included sending Vegapunk to Wano to work under Kaido's command for the WSC.

The thing is, we are focusing too much on Luffy vs. Imu-sama, but I believe that the one currently more connected to taking down Imu-sama is Blackbeard. Notice that one of his ships is in Egg Island, so Blackbeard might acquire his final fruit and find a way to defeat the immortal Imu-sama. Blackbeard doesn't necessarily need to succeed in piracy and become the Pirate King; he could take a different path and become the King of the World. In the end, we might have the Pirate King versus the King of the World, with Blackbeard and Luffy facing each other at the top.

That being said, what do you think is the power level of Imu-sama?

• Peak Peak Top Tier (Kaidou)
• Peak Top Tier (Roger/Primebeard)
• High Top Tier (Shanks)
• Mid Top Tier (Greenbull/Fujitora)

After finding out that is a weapon produced by Vegapunk that wiped out the kingdom of Lulusia, Imu-sama doesn't seem to give the impression of being very strong anymore. Their display of power was against Sabo, who was being attacked simultaneously while carrying a crippled old man in a wheelchair. I would say that Kaidou's introduction, defeating Kid, Killer, Hawkins, Apoo, and the other members of their respective crews, and finally, in Wano, defeating Luffy using only the basic form with just one strike, was more impressive.

Do you think Imu-sama is conveying that feeling of being an overpowering villain?



@comrade @nik87 @Hanzo hattori @MonsterKaido @Red Admiral @Erkan12 @Tejas @Veku

I think that Imu will be the next "big" villain who all the Emperors are going to team up against, mainly cause he just feels like the main threat right now. I'm thinking Teach will be like Frieza in the Tournament of Power where the audience knows he's inevitably going to betray the others, but no one's sure how and when he'll do it.

 

[Reborn]

Imu will be strongest in the verse followed by BB.

 

[Sugoi]

this panel alone debunks imu's chances of being final villain. Imu having Blackbeard's poster implies that it will be luffy and blackbeard that are involved in imu's downfall. That means blackbeard vs luffy has to happen after. It is imu scared of blackbeard not the other way around

 

[Sir Yasheen]

this panel alone debunks imu's chances of being final villain. Imu having Blackbeard's poster implies that it will be luffy and blackbeard that are involved in imu's downfall. That means blackbeard vs luffy has to happen after. It is imu scared of blackbeard not the other way around

Imu having Blackbeards poster just means he’s monitoring the only two Ds the WG is aware of lmao

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

Crydo is dead.
Get help.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

I think fight against Imu will be just the start of the final part of PK race.
All 4 Emperors will obtain the last Road Poneglyph that is in Mariejois and then they will go after the Laugh Tale.
They will eventually clash either on Laugh Tale or on Lodestar and fight it out to determine who gets to claim the treasure.

Imu's power level should be inferior to Kaido's unless he is the reason why Kaido's rumor is a rumor.
He seems like a Zoan so most likely slightly weaker than Kaido.
Nothing about Imu's personality is known and cramping everything into a single arc will fail like Oden's character failed.

That's what Buggy, Shanks and Blackbeard have over Imu, long build-up and very detailed character.
What makes One Piece is unique are Devil Fruits after all and Blackbeard is the only guy who can eat several of them.
I think he is the final villain but I think Grim Reaper could appear after him, however, he is Zoro's plotline and not Luffy's.

I agree that it doesn't make sense for Im-sama to be stronger than Kaidou. Im-sama needed Vegapunk's new weapon to wipe out an island, which raises a question: what did they use before to destroy an island, the Buster Call?

It's kind of like if Imu-sama had used their own powers to destroy the kingdom of Lulusia, it would have given them more hype. However, we found out that it wasn't him, which might indicate that he doesn't even possess the ability to erase an island like Kaidou does.

Imu, being so powerful, has depended on the Buster Call all this time to get rid of kingdoms/islands that threatened him, like Ohara, for example, which was subjected to a Buster Call. Obviously, this doesn't prove that Imu-sama is incapable of destroying an island; he may well be able to do it easily. However, it's a matter of probabilities people have much more chances of escaping from a Buster Call than from a single strike that completely obliterates the island and wipes it off the map. Imu should at least take some risks on the frontlines instead of relying on the Buster Call all this time.

 

[Reborn]

Imu having Blackbeards poster just means he’s monitoring the only two Ds the WG is aware of lmao

WG is also aware of dragon and he is D

 

[Sir Yasheen]

WG is also aware of dragon and he is D

Dragons bounty poster hasn’t been shown. We don’t know if he has the D on it.

 

[Reborn]

Dragons bounty poster hasn’t been shown. We don’t know if he has the D on it.

Luffy has D on it


He is son of Dragon announced by Sengoku at MF


Connect the dots

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Luffy has D on it


He is son of Dragon announced by Sengoku at MF


Connect the dots

And we have examples of children taking their mothers name? So the WG should just assume luffy has dragons?

 

[Sugoi]

Imu having Blackbeards poster just means he’s monitoring the only two Ds the WG is aware of lmao

No, they are not the only 2 D's...regardless, you think that's not going to play a part in the story? D are enemy of the gods, that's an important theme. Not just Luffy. Shirahoshi is not a D and her picture is there. You think oda showing that for no reason? Shirahoshi will play a role in imu's downfall too. Oda is showing blackbeard and shirahoshi there for a reason no point ignoring it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No, they are not the only 2 D's...regardless, you think that's not going to play a part in the story? D are enemy of the gods, that's an important theme. Not just Luffy. Shirahoshi is not a D and her picture is there. You think oda showing that for no reason? Shirahoshi will play a role in imu's downfall too. Oda is showing blackbeard and shirahoshi there for a reason no point ignoring it

They’re literally the only 2 living bounty posters with a D that we’ve seen.

Imus probably just unsure of which of these two inherited the Will of D, Blackbeard is getting killed before raftel.

 

[Reborn]

And we have examples of children taking their mothers name? So the WG should just assume luffy has dragons?

Wdym? You are overthinking it.

Enies - monkey family - Garp - dragon - luffy

MF - Luffy is Dragon son and a D


It's naive to think WG doesn't know about Dragon is D - someone who is most wanted man



And, those posters were marked for something else

Vivi - connected to Lily (800 years ago (
Shirahoshi - Poseidon (ancient weapon 800 years ago)
Luffy - joyboy (800 years ago)

Blackbeard is there because he is likely to be connected with another figure of 800 years ago

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Wdym? You are overthinking it.

Enies - monkey family - Garp - dragon - luffy

MF - Luffy is Dragon son and a D


It's naive to think WG doesn't know about Dragon is D - someone who is most wanted man



And, those posters were marked for something else

Vivi - connected to Lily (800 years ago (
Shirahoshi - Poseidon (ancient weapon 800 years ago)
Luffy - joyboy (800 years ago)

Blackbeard is there because he is likely to be connected with another figure of 800 years ago

Or imus just unsure which one of those two are joyboys successor, Blackbeard or Luffy. This was before Gear 5 afterall.