People casually talking about Luffy soloing Kaido dont realize that if lufyy beats Kaido he will become the worlds strongest creature
Then there wont be much strength development left till the EOS
Yup, and then you can apply that logic to Zoro, etc. If they take in YCs now, what does that say about BBs or Shank's (if fought)? They still may possibly fight the Admirals, another growth level. I really think YCs are a huge jump in strength atm. Also really nothing in the all star fighting styles that point to Jinbe fighting Jack or Sanji fighting Queen at this point. In fact, I see Kid having more of a chance to fight Queen, considering he defeated Snack and probably has the base to take on another YC. Inu/Neko should for all intents and purposes, fight Jack.
The only reason people argue Zoro vs. King (and trust me I did too), was because King has a sword and the idea that he's the number 2, to which we don't even know if Luffy is getting a dedicated fight against Kaido. Hell, I almost expect Who's Who to be Zoro's opponent at this point. Taking a major New World captain under Kaido seems like a better growth point for Zoro, same for Sanji if he faces Sasaki or X Drake or something (idk).
The parallels between Marco and King to be...interesting. We'll see if they actually fight.
It doesn't make sense. Zoro stated explicitly he didn't want to fight anyone else. Not Apoo, not Queen, and not any of the fodder. His main target is kaido.
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Since Zoro is one of the main characters, I think its much more likely that he will be involved in the main battle over side characters like Marco.
The calamities are honestly side villains. That's why each and every calamity has been built up to be taken down by side characters.
inu and neko have build up to defeat Jack
Drake and the tobi roppo have build up to defeat Queen
and now we see Marco with build up to defeat King
While everyone keeps saying Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen, Jinbe vs Jack and believing it like fact, none of the m3 have build up against the calamities. The only people with buildup against the calamities are the side characters.
Yup, and then you can apply that logic to Zoro, etc. If they take in YCs now, what does that say about BBs or Shank's (if fought)? They still may possibly fight the Admirals, another growth level. I really think YCs are a huge jump in strength atm. Also really nothing in the all star fighting styles that point to Jinbe fighting Jack or Sanji fighting Queen at this point. In fact, I see Kid having more of a chance to fight Queen, considering he defeated Snack and probably has the base to take on another YC. Inu/Neko should for all intents and purposes, fight Jack.
The only reason people argue Zoro vs. King (and trust me I did too), was because King has a sword and the idea that he's the number 2, to which we don't even know if Luffy is getting a dedicated fight against Kaido. Hell, I almost expect Who's Who to be Zoro's opponent at this point. Taking a major New World captain under Kaido seems like a better growth point for Zoro, same for Sanji if he faces Sasaki or X Drake or something (idk).
The parallels between Marco and King to be...interesting. We'll see if they actually fight.
Do you really think that Oda want to draw for more than 5 yeahrs?
What you are saying mean that Oda has to draw for at less 5+years (i see that the 5years will be a bit longer due to the corona virus) and I dont see that happening.
This arc is a main stone for the straw hat crew, all the previous headcanon about powerscalling have no influence with Oda. If Oda has an interest in drawing an epic fight with katana were Zoro is under extreme pressure and has to overcome an extreme fight well King is there for that reason. Same for Luffy. You know if Luffy defeat Kaido doesnt mean he is stronger or has an advantage against Black Beard.
All character have different skills and operate different. If Zoro win against King doesnt mean he is stronger than Shiru because this 2 characters are totally different.
Personally I think that Marco is here especially to use the new ability that we saw when he was healing the animals.
It doesn't make sense. Zoro stated explicitly he didn't want to fight anyone else. Not Apoo, not Queen, and not any of the fodder. His main target is kaido.
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Since Zoro is one of the main characters, I think its much more likely that he will be involved in the main battle over side characters like Marco.
The calamities are honestly side villains. That's why each and every calamity has been built up to be taken down by side characters.
inu and neko have build up to defeat Jack
Drake and the tobi roppo have build up to defeat Queen
and now we see Marco with build up to defeat King
While everyone keeps saying Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen, Jinbe vs Jack and believing it like fact, none of the m3 have build up against the calamities. The only people with buildup against the calamities are the side characters.
No. Last chapter made me realize how Oda was building up these fights. I had an inkling that the SHs wouldn't fight the calamities, but last chapter basically confirmed it for me.
There is absolutely zero build up for Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen, or Jinbe vs Jack. There is, however, a ton of build up for:
Marco vs King
Tobi roppo vs Queen
Inu and neko vs jack
If side characters take on the calamities, then the only thing the m3 can do is take on the yonko. When I looked at this possibility, it actually made a lot of sense.
Zoro vs Kaido has a ton of foreshadowing and build up
food is one of big mom's only weaknesses and sanji can bake another cake.
Both Sanji and jinbe have a history with big mom.
No. Last chapter made me realize how Oda was building up these fights. I had an inkling that the SHs wouldn't fight the calamities, but last chapter basically confirmed it for me.
There is absolutely zero build up for Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen, or Jinbe vs Jack. There is, however, a ton of build up for:
Marco vs King
Tobi roppo vs Queen
Inu and neko vs jack
If side characters take on the calamities, then the only thing the m3 can do is take on the yonko. When I looked at this possibility, it actually made a lot of sense.
Zoro vs Kaido has a ton of foreshadowing and build up
food is one of big mom's only weaknesses and sanji can bake another cake.
Both Sanji and jinbe have a history with big mom.
You still haven't explained how a Zoro that is too weak to defeat King can be a meaningful force against Kaido. Have you changed your estimate of his current power?
You still haven't explained how a Zoro that is too weak to defeat King can be a meaningful force against Kaido. Have you changed your estimate of his current power?
I just want to know who Kid/Killer are fighting. Law received a similar focus in PH/DR. It's time for Kid/Killer to get good moments like this, in the least Kid. He's part of that trio (Luffy, Law, Kid). If he doesn't fight Queen, then I'd like to see Smoothie or something. We already know he's beaten Snack, so he's up there.
For the record I think most people are getting fights before the Yonko, or at least achieving signficant feats against the Yonko. Either Marco fights King, or he is central to bringing Kaido/BM down I'd say.
By me and a friend of mine. We did it for fun. Some feel very random, but we tried giving everyone relevant someone.
STRAW HATS
Luffy vs. Jack, Kaido
Zoro vs. Sasaki, King
Sanji vs. Who's Who, Queen
Jimbei vs. Perospero
Franky vs. Mimawarigumi (Big Head)
Robin vs. Compote
Brook vs. Daikoku
Usopp vs. Numbers (2)
Nami vs. Black Maria
Chopper vs. Montd'Or
SCABBARDS
Kin'emon vs. Kanjuro
Denjiro vs. Mimawarigumi Captain
Raizo vs. Fukurokuju
Ashura vs. Numbers (2)
Kawamatsu vs. Numbers (2)
Inuarashi vs. Numbers (2)
Nekomamushi vs. Numbers (2)
Kiku vs. Galette
Shinobu vs. Mimawarigumi (girl)
MINKS
Carrot vs. Daifuku
KID PIRATES
Kid vs. Smoothie, Big Mom
Killer vs. Apoo
HEART PIRATES
Law vs. Ulti, Kaido
WHITEBEARD PIRATES
Marco vs. Big Mom
Izo vs. Amande
OTHERS
Momo & Yamato vs. Orochi
Drake vs. Page One
zoro,luffy,kid,killer came from the main gate where queen is and sanji and the others are coming from behind where the mansion is located king is most likely there so queen is fighting one frome luffy,zoro,kid,killer and king is fighting either sanji or marco
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