Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade
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awful character but I truly hope thats a black blade
would be fun watching these lot break their neck trying to get around that because for years theyve pushed the idea its proof that one is the strongest.
and it does look exactly like a black blade
its a big deal
I just dont think its coc related
the best conqueror user in the story didnt make one .
would be fun watching these lot break their neck trying to get around that because for years theyve pushed the idea its proof that one is the strongest.
and it does look exactly like a black blade
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its a big deal
I just dont think its coc related
the best conqueror user in the story didnt make one .
So far we have:
Fruitless Kuzan having Garp level punches and Haki
Fruitless Kizaru having World’s Strongest Defense level Haki and blocking Luffy’s AdCoC kick easily with one arm
Fruitless Fujitora having the best CoO of all time
Ryokugyu black blade deniers are really running out of places to hide lmfao. 3/5 fruitless Admirals so far are outright confirmed to be world class/all-time greatest Haki contenders.
Fruitless Kuzan having Garp level punches and Haki
Fruitless Kizaru having World’s Strongest Defense level Haki and blocking Luffy’s AdCoC kick easily with one arm
Fruitless Fujitora having the best CoO of all time
Ryokugyu black blade deniers are really running out of places to hide lmfao. 3/5 fruitless Admirals so far are outright confirmed to be world class/all-time greatest Haki contenders.
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I agree, Kizaru teaching a barrier haki based fighter like Sentoumaru, boasting about his guard, and then blocking with one arm the same kick that had hybrid Kaido pressed makes the idea of being Aramaki a COA specialist even more likely.
Basically :
Fujitora : Observation maxxed
Kizaru : defensive/barrier haki maxxed
Ryokugyu : offensive/hardening haki maxxed
Basically :
Fujitora : Observation maxxed
Kizaru : defensive/barrier haki maxxed
Ryokugyu : offensive/hardening haki maxxed
Yep that’s it.
Ryokugyu: Offensive Haki/Hardening world class
Fujitora: General CoO world class
Kuzan: Prime Garp level Fisting
Kizaru: Guard Haki world class
Akainu: ??? (AdCoC very likely as we are running out of Haki types for Akainu to specialize him if Oda wants to give Akainu his own unique Haki focus like the rest)
Literally Admiral fan predictions always age like fine wine. I’ve been saying these guys have world-class Haki for over a decade now.
Ryokugyu: Offensive Haki/Hardening world class
Fujitora: General CoO world class
Kuzan: Prime Garp level Fisting
Kizaru: Guard Haki world class
Akainu: ??? (AdCoC very likely as we are running out of Haki types for Akainu to specialize him if Oda wants to give Akainu his own unique Haki focus like the rest)
Literally Admiral fan predictions always age like fine wine. I’ve been saying these guys have world-class Haki for over a decade now.
I’m going to add this argument to the OP as an argument that I strongly believe strengthens the case for Ryokugyu having a black blade and forging it himself.
Post Chapter 1091 Update
After the events of Beehive, as well as the current events of Egghead, it’s looking more and more likely that Oda intends to make all Admirals absolute world-class Haki users. This heavily reinforces the idea that not only does Ryokugyu have a black blade, but he did in fact forge it himself as the other Admirals also seemed to attain world-class Haki levels by their own strength and not by stealing them.
Kuzan
Kuzan explicitly attained prime Garp level punching power:
Kuzan also matched old Garp in a punching contest:
I feel like this fact by itself almost singlehandedly debunks every single argument for Ryokugyu not being able to achieve a black blade, as Kuzan attained prime Garp level fists with all of the same restrictions/caveats that Ryokugyu has. Kuzan is primarily a Devil Fruit based fighter and yet still attained the punching strength of the strongest puncher in the history of the series. Similarly, Ryokugyu is primarily a Devil Fruit based fighter (from what we’ve seen) but he could have easily forged a black blade for the exact same reasons that Kuzan became tied for the best puncher in the series.
Kizaru
This might be a bit premature as Kizaru’s Egghead showing isn’t concluded yet, so he could show even more than this, but let’s do this anyway.
Kizaru trained Sentomaru:
Who has explicitly claimed to have the “strongest defense in the world” multiple times. And Sentomaru is not some ignorant island hermit who has no idea how strong the rest of the world is, Sentomaru was Vegapunk’s own personal bodyguard as well as a member of the Navy, even if his defense isn’t the literal world’s strongest, he is credible enough for us to assume his defense is world class.
Not only did Kizaru train him, Kizaru also shows a similar level of defensive prowess:
Now take this quote as you will but it seems to me like Kizaru is directly comparing his own defense to Sentomaru’s here, stating that he can’t let his defense be beaten.
Kizaru also, with one arm, blocks what appears to be an AdCoC blow from Luffy:
As the lightning patterns and “touching” appear identical to other AdCoC moments like this one:
It’s also not even clear if Kizaru is using Haki to block this blow, which hypes his defense even further (though, he is probably using Haki, I think).
So again, same argument. Kizaru is primarily a fruit based fighter but was still able to attain a “world’s strongest defense” level of Haki. Again, we can directly state that Ryokugyu could have forged a black blade for the exact same reasons.
Now, we don’t have explicit confirmation for the Haki of Akainu and Fujitora here, and while I could post a giant explanation for why these two likely have world class Haki levels as well, I want to keep the supporting evidence sections of this thread as factual as I can. I will edit this post and the OP in the future once Akainu and Fujitora get more Haki hype.
So all and all, it is really looking more and more likely that Oda is coming through on Admiral level Haki after all, and this is all just adding fuel to the fire of Ryokugyu’s black blade.
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Post Chapter 1091 Update
After the events of Beehive, as well as the current events of Egghead, it’s looking more and more likely that Oda intends to make all Admirals absolute world-class Haki users. This heavily reinforces the idea that not only does Ryokugyu have a black blade, but he did in fact forge it himself as the other Admirals also seemed to attain world-class Haki levels by their own strength and not by stealing them.
Kuzan
Kuzan explicitly attained prime Garp level punching power:
Kuzan also matched old Garp in a punching contest:
I feel like this fact by itself almost singlehandedly debunks every single argument for Ryokugyu not being able to achieve a black blade, as Kuzan attained prime Garp level fists with all of the same restrictions/caveats that Ryokugyu has. Kuzan is primarily a Devil Fruit based fighter and yet still attained the punching strength of the strongest puncher in the history of the series. Similarly, Ryokugyu is primarily a Devil Fruit based fighter (from what we’ve seen) but he could have easily forged a black blade for the exact same reasons that Kuzan became tied for the best puncher in the series.
Kizaru
This might be a bit premature as Kizaru’s Egghead showing isn’t concluded yet, so he could show even more than this, but let’s do this anyway.
Kizaru trained Sentomaru:
Who has explicitly claimed to have the “strongest defense in the world” multiple times. And Sentomaru is not some ignorant island hermit who has no idea how strong the rest of the world is, Sentomaru was Vegapunk’s own personal bodyguard as well as a member of the Navy, even if his defense isn’t the literal world’s strongest, he is credible enough for us to assume his defense is world class.
Not only did Kizaru train him, Kizaru also shows a similar level of defensive prowess:
Now take this quote as you will but it seems to me like Kizaru is directly comparing his own defense to Sentomaru’s here, stating that he can’t let his defense be beaten.
Kizaru also, with one arm, blocks what appears to be an AdCoC blow from Luffy:
As the lightning patterns and “touching” appear identical to other AdCoC moments like this one:
It’s also not even clear if Kizaru is using Haki to block this blow, which hypes his defense even further (though, he is probably using Haki, I think).
So again, same argument. Kizaru is primarily a fruit based fighter but was still able to attain a “world’s strongest defense” level of Haki. Again, we can directly state that Ryokugyu could have forged a black blade for the exact same reasons.
Now, we don’t have explicit confirmation for the Haki of Akainu and Fujitora here, and while I could post a giant explanation for why these two likely have world class Haki levels as well, I want to keep the supporting evidence sections of this thread as factual as I can. I will edit this post and the OP in the future once Akainu and Fujitora get more Haki hype.
So all and all, it is really looking more and more likely that Oda is coming through on Admiral level Haki after all, and this is all just adding fuel to the fire of Ryokugyu’s black blade.
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These arguments are basically claiming that Aramaki unironically made his bed and didn't lie in it
Like who the fuck makes a black blade (something that requires you to continously harden your swords in multiple battles and takes a lot of time) and then just says "Ah fuck this sword I'm never using this shit again just gonna keep it in my holster for no reason"
Get real
Like who the fuck makes a black blade (something that requires you to continously harden your swords in multiple battles and takes a lot of time) and then just says "Ah fuck this sword I'm never using this shit again just gonna keep it in my holster for no reason"
Get real
Yes, Ryokugyu's blade appears as a Kokuto. Ryokugyu has his fruit for 3 years (as he has not eaten for 3 years), so majority of his time he was probably a swordsman. Oda went at length to display Ryokugyu's blade without a sheath and drew it as a black blade. If it happens to be a normal blade, let alone a wooden stick, Oda has to seriously reconsider his ability to draw.
Queen couldn't use cybernetics because he didn't even want to fight her lol
He got slammed twice and then decided to sneak attack her head because he thought she'd kill him in a direct fight (which is fair ngl)
Doffy didn't use any moves because he just wanted to observe and make occasional moves, however he still used parasite twice at least.
Marco did use moves, he didn't name most of them but he definitely did use some.
He got slammed twice and then decided to sneak attack her head because he thought she'd kill him in a direct fight (which is fair ngl)
Doffy didn't use any moves because he just wanted to observe and make occasional moves, however he still used parasite twice at least.
Marco did use moves, he didn't name most of them but he definitely did use some.