Controversial General Political Discussion

[Uncle Van]

If C4N’s goal is to make leftists disliked by everyone, he’s doing a wonderful job!

C4N is the type of person media outlets would give a platform to in order to paint the left as crazy people as a whole.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Being antiwoke is a big red flag on the left

Supporting actual activism and bringing attention to real issues is viewed as a red flag?

 

[Zenos7]

nd look at that.. Police don't kill black people anymore.. Yeahhhhhhh....wait

so the civil rights movement didnt accomplish anything through nonviolent protests because some shitty cops still kill black people?

this is antilogical waffle and sad attempt to deflect from peaceful protests being able to work

 

[Logiko]

the world isnt just black and white btw.

Tell me, do you think we have both free will and not free will ? :)

i judge shit case by case. sometimes i agree with the leftist values, sometimes with the rightist values. im not on either side, no matter how desperately you want me to be.

I've seen enough centrist here to see where the balance leans.
The toxicity on this forum is but a result of that premisse.

C4N is the type of person media outlets would give a platform to in order to paint the left as crazy people as a whole.

Hardly.

Supporting actual activism and bringing attention to real issues is viewed as a red flag?

Supporting actual activism and bringing attention to real issues is not being antiwoke mate its the opposite :)

so the civil rights movement didnt accomplish anything through nonviolent protests because some shitty cops still kill black people?

No. What I say its that non violence is not enough anymore. At least in France. In the US its a little bit different, Biden is left leaning.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Supporting actual activism and bringing attention to real issues is not being antiwoke mate its the opposite :)

It is when we've got 2 different definitions of what that means.

Mines does not include advocating for pronouns.

 

[Logiko]

It is when we've got 2 different definitions of what that means.

Mines does not include advocating for pronouns.

Then you are not supporting activism.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Then you are not supporting activism.

Identity labels and pronouns are not real world issues.

 

[Logiko]

Identity labels and pronouns are not real world issues.

For you maybe, for others its important. I'm sure you are not one of those that think we can only fight one fight at a time, right ?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

For you maybe, for others its important. I'm sure you are not one of those that think we can only fight one fight at a time, right ?

If you're trying to get anything done yes, you focus on the more pressing matter first. Then you deal with the less pressing issues.

 

[Logiko]

If you're trying to get anything done yes, you focus on the more pressing matter first. Then you deal with the less pressing issues.

When you are alone yes. Not when you are millions.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

When you are alone yes. Not when you are millions.

More like a couple thousand if we're being completely honest :saden:

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Someone needs to make a D&D alignment or political compass meme over the typical users in this thread.

 

[Kami Burn]

Bisexual are just horny.You are straight.Dont speak on behalf of gay peoplelmao

I know one or two people who really fit this description.

 

[Zenos7]

Tell me, do you think we have both free will and not free will ? :)

im not sure abuot that. we already had this, one can also NOT have an opinion on certain things. its fine to not know something.
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I've seen enough centrist here to see where the balance leans.

i dont really care about your opinion though. hardcore leftists call me nazi, hardcore rightists call me libtard. i dont care about either
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No. What I say its that non violence is not enough anymore. At least in France. In the US its a little bit different, Biden is left leaning.

SOrry for those who want peacefull protest but that doesn't do sh*t.

sounded like a general statement

 

[Mathias]

@Mathias how exaggerated is C4N making France's political scene look?

Is it really so bad that riots are the only way to get noticed?

Recent riots -wether it's the ones within the Yellow-Jacket movement or the riots after Nahel's death- were sadly just entertaining.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

If C4N’s goal is to make leftists disliked by everyone, he’s doing a wonderful job!

I'm going to assume he's a disinformation agent at this point, just for my own fucking sanity.

 

[Logiko]

im not sure abuot that. we already had this, one can also NOT have an opinion on certain things. its fine to not know something.

If that the case, they are apolitical, meaning out of the political spectrum. Not center. Out. Apolitical.

I'm going to assume he's a disinformation agent at this point, just for my own fucking sanity.

I've said nothing really surprising lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

"People are destroying things when there is a cause, it must mean that those people don't care about the cause and just want to break things thus damaging said cause"

I wonder how many time a day I see this fallacious argumentation. People like you don't realize that breaking stuff is the last resort of the ones who are not listened.

In that magical conservative world of you guys, good people can't break stuff, because good people care about stuff... Too bad, in reality people beside bourgeois and other conservative, know that stuff is just... STUFF. Breaking, putting in fire is therefore the last and best resort to be heard.

So here is a spoiler and an advice for you: You want less rioting ? Well.. do more listening.

ANd if you listen. Share the anger.
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Don't worry, I got this covered

Ah... So this means I can burn down your house because it's "just stuff", right?
"Do more listening" More listening to the riots for MY race?
Sure. Cause I don't already listen to the riots that are literally for our cause

 

[NikaInParis]

Ah... So this means I can burn down your house because it's "just stuff", right?
"Do more listening" More listening to the riots for MY race?
Sure. Cause I don't already listen to the riots that are literally for our cause

"Your whole inventory from the IT shop you own, that was looted to the last?
Just stuff, you nazi! Get over it!
...
Yo bro, look at this sweet new laptop I got!"

 

[Logiko]

Ah... So this means I can burn down your house because it's "just stuff", right?
"Do more listening" More listening to the riots for MY race?
Sure. Cause I don't already listen to the riots that are literally for our cause

Riots don't attack people houses, they attack big corporations and gouvernment agencies.
More listening yes.