Spoiler One Piece Chapter 982 Spoilers Discussion

[Buusatan94]

Imagine the riot it would cause

That wouldn't bother me one bit that Zoro loses a fight. In fact it would be better and more interesting because the closest thing to a real fight he had postskip was the skirmisch with Kamazo/Killer.

 

[Paperchampion23]

The truth is Zoro is stronger than both of them. Luffy and Sanji need a transformation to become strong. Meanwhile Zoro only fought with his trained base form 😌

http://imgur.com/a/MMkgtUa

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The problem is, Zoro hasn't had a fight that has pushed his limit since Kaku/the Pacifista at Sabaody. Hyouzou, Monet and Pica were all jokes. He's literally in the same boat as Luffy/Sanji.

 

[Kejon]

Zoro losing fights is important for him. He is not invincible.

 

[Buusatan94]

Luffy>Zoro>Sanji

It is not difficult, isn't it?

For some it is difficult if not outright impossible to admit that Luffy is stronger than Zoro.

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

Idk about Luffy and Sanji but i dont see Zoro being with anyone..he's probably gonna end up like Mihawk

I always thought Mihawk’s personality and demeanor was a cautionary tale for what Zoro would’ve become if he didn’t travel with the Straw Hats and achieved his dream.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Zoro losing fights is important for him. He is not invincible.

Didn't he loss enough against Kuina?

WTF bro

 

[Buusatan94]

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The problem is, Zoro hasn't had a fight that has pushed his limit since Kaku/the Pacifista at Sabaody. Hyouzou, Monet and Pica were all jokes. He's literally in the same boat as Luffy/Sanji.

Yep Zoro has faced no real opponent that could have forced him to overcome his limits after TS, unlike Luffy he hasn't faced any warlord or Yonko Commander and Fujitora was holding back his true power during Dressrosa arc while Kyoshiro wasn't serious enough, all his main opponents (Hyouzou, Monet, Pica) postskip were underwhelming.

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

Zoro losing fights is important for him. He is not invincible.

Zoro losing a fight as a wake up call would be a rehash of shit he went through pre-TS. Losing to Mihawk made Zoro extremely insecure about his strength (look at his after arc training during Alabasta and Thriller Bark), then learning what Luffy went through made him bow to Mihawk for training.

How would Zoro grow from losing to someone that he hasn’t already learned?

 

[Finalbeta]

Let's wait for Zoro's new feats before jumping up to stereotypes of Luffy being stronger

They were equal on Alabasta, let's see if they still are

 

[Paperchampion23]

For some it is difficult if not outright impossible to admit that Luffy is stronger than Zoro.

Which makes zero fucking sense to me. Luffy is THE main character and has constantly fought villains stronger than Zoro.

 

[Buusatan94]

Which makes zero fucking sense to me. Luffy is THE main character and has constantly fought villains stronger than Zoro.

You know wanker fanboys.

 

[Zowo]

all his main opponents (Hyouzou, Monet, Pica) postskip were underwhelming.

because zoro was to strong
Hyozou could react and block g2 attack meanwhile the drugged stronger version couldn t even react to zoro
Monet almost defeated luffy meanwhile zoro beat her without haki and 1 sword
and dressrosa pica>dressrosa luffy
yc2 for a reason

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Yep Zoro has faced no real opponent that could have forced him to overcome his limits after TS, unlike Luffy he hasn't faced any warlord or Yonko Commander and Fujitora was holding back his true power during Dressrosa arc while Kyoshiro wasn't serious enough, all his main opponents (Hyouzou, Monet, Pica) postskip were underwhelming.

Point to note is that according to his Vivrecard the scar on his face reflects how hard his training was during those two years.

Unlike Luffy or Sanji he didn't have enemies to train with (like those animals in Luffy island or the Okama ) so he actually trained with Mihawk , I think this is the reason of Oda treatment so far .

(The monkeys were defeated before the training started even)

 

[nik87]

yc2 for a reason

Weak haki...
Zoro, since timeskip, has been above YC1. In base form. Asura can rival top tiers.

 

[Zowo]

Weak haki...
Zoro, since timeskip, has been above YC1. In base form. Asura can rival top tiers.

Lik kun not zoro talked about pica

 

[ShadyOjiro]

I'm all for it, I'd love for the Zorodicklovers to get their comeuppance.

If no matter the chapter haters still trash Zoro.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Weak haki...
Zoro, since timeskip, has been above YC1. In base form. Asura can rival top tiers.

Why'd he have so much trouble with Pica? ya boi shoulda one shot him if that was case...
Because it's not!

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Why'd he have so much trouble with Pica? ya boi shoulda one shot him if that was case...
Because it's not!

I don't think there's a problem when beings like
Kaido can't kill Speed or Tama .



Just plot being kind with Picca ,Tama and Speed .

 

[nik87]

Why'd he have so much trouble with Pica? ya boi shoulda one shot him if that was case...
Because it's not!

That's exactly what he did.

 

[Kejon]

Zoro losing a fight as a wake up call would be a rehash of shit he went through pre-TS. Losing to Mihawk made Zoro extremely insecure about his strength (look at his after arc training during Alabasta and Thriller Bark), then learning what Luffy went through made him bow to Mihawk for training.

How would Zoro grow from losing to someone that he hasn’t already learned?

Losing is normal. It's stupid if he can't lose to anyone. Do Zoro fans really want Zoro to just fight against Kaido and defeat him?