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Power lvls aside, Admirals are not afraid of Yonko's
"Eww but GB retreated after Shanks showed up"
"Eww they didn’t attack Wano because Kaido reigned there."
guess what, WB and Shanks did the same and let Oden's people suffer for 20 years
Admiral's have responsibilities, they can’t act like they want. This why Garp refused to take this position
Shanks is strong but he has also a special status because of his family
Aramaki would otherwise 100% fight against Shanks
Kizaru was even ready to fight against Kaido and BM
this is not about "who would win" but a reality check for Admiral haters
1092 proved it again
 
Gotta say, the moment G5 is up, evêryone should be worried that their fav is gonna get toon-forced. Wouldn't surprised me if Luffy starts jump-roping Kizaru somehow in the next chapter :josad:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
He was prior to the Squardo stab, and no man Its just how Kizaru is. He does his job, he is fearless. And thats about it
How do we know is my point lol? Because Kizaru was 100% confident he could kill Whitebeard.

And like I said, if Luffy were stronger than Kizaru, Kizaru should’ve waited for backup before charging in but that’s not what happened. Kizaru just charged in straight up with no fear for the guy who beat Kaido.

I understand that you must twist this up to fit your agenda but even the VC stated that WB was the WSM when the war started.
You guys really have no argument aside from non-canon supplements on this stuff do you lol? I stopped reading here.
 

Gol D. Roger

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With FS, yes. Oda literally admitted Kaidou had no answer. Kaidou is the least likely character to have FS, it was just gift wrapped to him by virtue of going up against the scale breaking Snakeman + FS combo.

How are you gonna downplay FS by bringing up an FS led feat lmfao. And also...switching speeds can throw someone off completely. Kaidou blitzed Luffy like that once, doesn't mean he can keep that up everytime, Luffy will also adjust.
Bro, are you for real? lmao. I was merely pointing out how you're ignoring Kaido was only forced to use FS to counter a combo of FS and Snakeman while your initial post kinda sounded like Kaido needed FS to counter Snakeman's raw speed. I pointed out multiple times that I was talking about their raw speeds because that's the deal breaker when both are using FS.

Kaido was getting hit by base Luffy under normal circumstances. How are you even trying to wank Snakeman for doing almost the same? Sure, Kaido's speed was decent when he moved fast, but even his top speed in TB was dodged by G2 Luffy. Why wouldn't Snakeman give him trouble especially when it's being boosted by FS? Also, if Kaido's FS succeeded, then it means Luffy's FS failed. I still can't wrap my head around how you even concluded saying one person's FS is used to counter another's FS is the same as wanking it lmao.
 
Kizaru is not wreckless, being fearless is one thing but that's also Crocodile. He won't make a move he doesn't have confidence in. I genuinely don't think Kizaru sees anyone above him in combat, and for good reason he has no reason to.
When did I say he was reckless and how does that disprove my point? His fearlessness comes from his supreme confidence in his abilities which is why I said he didnt care to go after WB even though he was touted as the strongest, didnt care to go stop BM and Kaido meeting even though Kaido is touted as the strongest, and now doesnt care to fight Luffy (although he tried to disengage at the end) even though he beat Kaido. It fits with what I said earlier, Kizaru is just someone who doesnt fear anybody.

@Owl Ki question for you too brother.
 
Kizaru is not wreckless, being fearless is one thing but that's also Crocodile. He won't make a move he doesn't have confidence in. I genuinely don't think Kizaru sees anyone above him in combat, and for good reason he has no reason to.
Like why should high tiers see anyone above them .
You don't see that for most yonko or Admirals.( you did not even see that for weak ass luffy )
There the highest power in the world until we see Elders and Imu .
 
How do we know is my point lol? Because Kizaru was 100% confident he could kill Whitebeard.

And like I said, if Luffy were stronger than Kizaru, Kizaru should’ve waited for backup before charging in but that’s not what happened. Kizaru just charged in straight up with no fear for the guy who beat Kaido.



You guys really have no argument aside from non-canon supplements on this stuff do you lol? I stopped reading here.
Marineford WB was severely nerfed.Definetily the weakest top tier in Marineford.
 

MonsterZoro

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Bro, are you for real? lmao. I was merely pointing out how you're ignoring Kaido was only forced to use FS to counter a combo of FS and Snakeman while your initial post kinda sounded like Kaido needed FS to counter Snakeman's raw speed. I pointed out multiple times that I was talking about their raw speeds because that's the deal breaker when both are using FS.

Kaido was getting hit by base Luffy under normal circumstances. How are you even trying to wank Snakeman? Sure, Kaido's speed was decent when he moved fast, but even his top speed in TB was dodged by G2 Luffy. Why wouldn't Snakeman give him trouble especially when it's being boosted by FS? Also, if Kaido's FS succeeded, then it means Luffy's FS failed. I still can't wrap my head around how you even concluded saying one person's FS is used to counter another's FS is the same as wanking it lmao.
Bro kizaru will use future sight against g5 just wait man wtf
 
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