General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
I still think Yamato might join. But just like Jinbei it would need to happen after she has been caught up to or surpassed. In other words Zoro should be clear > Yamato and Sanji be <≈> Yamato. Wano like Fishman Island also needs a permanent protection solution.
Perhaps Yamato joins as new #3 before Sanji surpasses and we have a gag of Zoro taunting Sanji "doesn't it feel right now that everything is as it used to, #4?"
Perhaps Yamato joins as new #3 before Sanji surpasses and we have a gag of Zoro taunting Sanji "doesn't it feel right now that everything is as it used to, #4?"
I want to adress the "strawhats will disband at the end" headcannon since it's constantly used as an argument for Vivi. I say headcannon instead of theory because people keep treating it as if it's a fact that they don't have to establish in order to use as an argument.
There are four main reasons why I doubt it. For one, Robin and Brook's character arcs revolved around the strawhats being their found family. It really cheapens their stories to have Luffy kick them out at the end and go solo.
For two, Nami's dream will require many more adventures after laughtale to complete. At least two more trips through the grand line to map each route, and then the other three blues, possibly even more of East blue too. There's no way the strawhats will disband before all their dreams are complete.
For three, Luffy wants to be the pirate king because the pirate king is the most free person in the world. The pirate king is the most free person in the world because he is so strong and influential that no one can mess with him. Without a crew, Luffy will not be in that position.
And for four, there is simply no reason for it. Why would Luffy send his crew away? Since when does he prefer to be alone? He told Jinbei after Marineford that his crew is all he has, his reason for living. So then he just disbands them at the end? Why? Just to parallel Roger more? Honestly, it just seems ridiculous.
When people just say "Vivi will technically be a member until the end because the strawhats will disband after laughtale", they're getting way ahead of themselves with their own headcannon.
There are four main reasons why I doubt it. For one, Robin and Brook's character arcs revolved around the strawhats being their found family. It really cheapens their stories to have Luffy kick them out at the end and go solo.
For two, Nami's dream will require many more adventures after laughtale to complete. At least two more trips through the grand line to map each route, and then the other three blues, possibly even more of East blue too. There's no way the strawhats will disband before all their dreams are complete.
For three, Luffy wants to be the pirate king because the pirate king is the most free person in the world. The pirate king is the most free person in the world because he is so strong and influential that no one can mess with him. Without a crew, Luffy will not be in that position.
And for four, there is simply no reason for it. Why would Luffy send his crew away? Since when does he prefer to be alone? He told Jinbei after Marineford that his crew is all he has, his reason for living. So then he just disbands them at the end? Why? Just to parallel Roger more? Honestly, it just seems ridiculous.
When people just say "Vivi will technically be a member until the end because the strawhats will disband after laughtale", they're getting way ahead of themselves with their own headcannon.
I don't see SHP disbanding right away, but tbh it could be some sort of distant epilogue where they do. We have at the very least trip back to East Blue, first we need to have Brook and Laboon reunion, and I'd like to see Nami and Nojiko reunion, as well as Usopp visiting his home island again, there's Kaya and also those kids, and Zoro could share some tales about Wano on his home island, and let's not forget Luffy! Bur yeah, overall I agree that "and the adventure continues" vibe is probably what we will get in the end.
I hope they don't disband, but rather remain a crew while going off to do their own things, too.
Zoro runs a sword school, Sanji opens up a restaurant, Chopper gets his own medical clinic, etc.
So, less disbanding, and more remaining close while seeing each other now and then.
It's also possible, based on the future tech we're being introduced to in Egghead, that they'll just have straight up teleporters in the end of the series, meaning lost distance travel would be super fast.
Zoro runs a sword school, Sanji opens up a restaurant, Chopper gets his own medical clinic, etc.
So, less disbanding, and more remaining close while seeing each other now and then.
It's also possible, based on the future tech we're being introduced to in Egghead, that they'll just have straight up teleporters in the end of the series, meaning lost distance travel would be super fast.
Depends how he tells the story tbh 
but yeah, a lot of his stories are going to be incredible and I can see the running gag being that people on his island don't really believe those!
Sometimes he did, but yeah, most often he did not 
but yeah, a lot of his stories are going to be incredible and I can see the running gag being that people on his island don't really believe those!
It wouldn't be honest if he claims to have any significant part in it
Oh, I would love to have those little details after the story ends!
I have a picture in mind of Zolo guarding the entrance of the Grand-line (in my mind, Reverse mountain has been destroyed by Luffy). He is sitting there on a small island in the middle of a passageway and just snoring away, while ships slowly pass him. Some people recognize the Samurai and are pointing their fingers at him, as their ships slowly make their way along the meandering waterway through the red line. It is a bustling little stream of people heading into their own advanture.
Before him, someone has put up a sign, with the word "Grand-Line" and an arrow pointing to the left depicted under it - Usopp's work.
Sometimes, when the wind is howling too strongly through the passage, the broad shield of the sign gets caught by the wind, which pulls its wooden spike out of the earth.
This is the time, when Zolo usually awakes and dizzily has to decide in what direction the arrow should point.
He looks to his right and sees only the open ocean.
Then he looks to his left and sees the gaping maw of the passage.
Looking down at the sign he is holding, he very intensly tries to understand in which way the sign should point. His eyes narrow as he wants to make the shield tell him the answer - it usually doesn't reply, though. And this is also the reason, why Zolo usually puts up the shield making it point to the right instead of left.
It was a bad idea, making Zolo the guardian of the Grand-line's entrance... .
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You are not even giving him the mental support he needs! Have you given up on him? :risitasad:
I have a picture in mind of Zolo guarding the entrance of the Grand-line (in my mind, Reverse mountain has been destroyed by Luffy). He is sitting there on a small island in the middle of a passageway and just snoring away, while ships slowly pass him. Some people recognize the Samurai and are pointing their fingers at him, as their ships slowly make their way along the meandering waterway through the red line. It is a bustling little stream of people heading into their own advanture.
Before him, someone has put up a sign, with the word "Grand-Line" and an arrow pointing to the left depicted under it - Usopp's work.
Sometimes, when the wind is howling too strongly through the passage, the broad shield of the sign gets caught by the wind, which pulls its wooden spike out of the earth.
This is the time, when Zolo usually awakes and dizzily has to decide in what direction the arrow should point.
He looks to his right and sees only the open ocean.
Then he looks to his left and sees the gaping maw of the passage.
Looking down at the sign he is holding, he very intensly tries to understand in which way the sign should point. His eyes narrow as he wants to make the shield tell him the answer - it usually doesn't reply, though. And this is also the reason, why Zolo usually puts up the shield making it point to the right instead of left.
It was a bad idea, making Zolo the guardian of the Grand-line's entrance... .
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It wouldn't be honest if he claims to have any significant part in it
The straw hats did not go out to sea to become pirates, they went to live their Dreams. I doubt they’re staying together after their dreams are accomplished.
The straw hats disbanding doesn’t mean they’ll no longer be nakama. They’ll always be there to help one another out; but they aren’t going to live together on that ship and a two straw hats dreams kinda show us that.
1. Brooks dream is to return to Laboon, no way is Brook returning to him then saying bye again forever.
2. Sanji discovered the all blue because it’s a chefs dream to cook there. Why would he discover it then abandon it?
So towards your four points:
1. You don’t need to live with your family to still have one. You can move on with your life and still be connected. Look at the true ending of persona 5 royal as it has the same message of found family but living your own life.
2. Oda will find a way to complete namis dream before the story ends. That’s not going to be some post story detail.
3. Luffy can be free even without being carried by the crew cause the entire world will have his back by EOS he’ll be able to go anywhere because he’ll be happily accepted anywhere. He doesn’t need the Straw hats to stay together.
4. The crew wouldn’t be sent away rather they’ll live their life. They’ll move on but still be nakama.
The straw hats disbanding doesn’t mean they’ll no longer be nakama. They’ll always be there to help one another out; but they aren’t going to live together on that ship and a two straw hats dreams kinda show us that.
1. Brooks dream is to return to Laboon, no way is Brook returning to him then saying bye again forever.
2. Sanji discovered the all blue because it’s a chefs dream to cook there. Why would he discover it then abandon it?
So towards your four points:
1. You don’t need to live with your family to still have one. You can move on with your life and still be connected. Look at the true ending of persona 5 royal as it has the same message of found family but living your own life.
2. Oda will find a way to complete namis dream before the story ends. That’s not going to be some post story detail.
3. Luffy can be free even without being carried by the crew cause the entire world will have his back by EOS he’ll be able to go anywhere because he’ll be happily accepted anywhere. He doesn’t need the Straw hats to stay together.
4. The crew wouldn’t be sent away rather they’ll live their life. They’ll move on but still be nakama.
In my EOS, Brook dies - sad but he somehow seems to be that person for me.
I cannot decide what I would like - for the SHP to stay together or for them to disband to fully live their seperate dreams... .
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I need to tell you that I think there is more to the plan the SHPs and Vegapunk have come up with.
First: Kizaru could and would have bridged the distance of the 1 km the SHPs were to bring between themselves and the admiral, if they were to follow their original plan with the usage of Vegaforce and the Sunny’s Coup de burst.
That plan was to fail from the start – even a not that intelligent person by now should have seen how far Kizaru can fly with his DF. One kilometr is nothing for him!
Than we have Sanji not reacting to Stussy and now we have the situation with Franky and Usopp:
I don’t know how you felt, but Franky carrying a Den Den Mushi and immediately calling Usopp after Kizaru left, is strange. When did the SHP ever use such close communication? Nami and Sanji sometimes communicated, but those were exceptions.
What makes me think is also the fact that Oda didn’t even depict Robin, Chopper, Sanji and Jinbe in the chapter. We see only Brook, Nami and Usopp in the panels he drew of the control room. The others are somehow not in any picture. It makes me wonder if they are still there or somewhere else.
It all combines make me think there is someone intelligent, with a very strategical talent at work, who directs everyone. And I wouldn’t be surprised, if we were to see Robin, Jinbe, Chopper and Sanji somewhere else in the next chapter. I wouldn’t even be surprised, if we saw Zolo being `fake-arrested´ by Lucci, because they needed to go someplace the navy already controls and had to `play´ captor and captive.
I think Lucci is strategizing for the group and directing them all the way through everything.
I cannot decide what I would like - for the SHP to stay together or for them to disband to fully live their seperate dreams... .
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I need to tell you that I think there is more to the plan the SHPs and Vegapunk have come up with.
First: Kizaru could and would have bridged the distance of the 1 km the SHPs were to bring between themselves and the admiral, if they were to follow their original plan with the usage of Vegaforce and the Sunny’s Coup de burst.
That plan was to fail from the start – even a not that intelligent person by now should have seen how far Kizaru can fly with his DF. One kilometr is nothing for him!
Than we have Sanji not reacting to Stussy and now we have the situation with Franky and Usopp:
I don’t know how you felt, but Franky carrying a Den Den Mushi and immediately calling Usopp after Kizaru left, is strange. When did the SHP ever use such close communication? Nami and Sanji sometimes communicated, but those were exceptions.
What makes me think is also the fact that Oda didn’t even depict Robin, Chopper, Sanji and Jinbe in the chapter. We see only Brook, Nami and Usopp in the panels he drew of the control room. The others are somehow not in any picture. It makes me wonder if they are still there or somewhere else.
It all combines make me think there is someone intelligent, with a very strategical talent at work, who directs everyone. And I wouldn’t be surprised, if we were to see Robin, Jinbe, Chopper and Sanji somewhere else in the next chapter. I wouldn’t even be surprised, if we saw Zolo being `fake-arrested´ by Lucci, because they needed to go someplace the navy already controls and had to `play´ captor and captive.
I think Lucci is strategizing for the group and directing them all the way through everything.
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I suppose if we take the view that Oda is focusing on officially recruiting Vivi in the crew before Yamato, the it might make more sense he had Wano end the way it did.
Yamato has Oden’s mission on her shoulders and Vivi has Lily’s Will of D. legacy on her shoulders. Seeing as how both potentially have large ties to Laugh Tale, this may make the most sense.
Yamato has Oden’s mission on her shoulders and Vivi has Lily’s Will of D. legacy on her shoulders. Seeing as how both potentially have large ties to Laugh Tale, this may make the most sense.
It wouldn't be honest if he claims to have any significant part in it