Current Events The Fall of France - An Admiral Vs Yonko Meltdown Montage

[BlackLegFring]

From what I gather, a lot of fans did not forgive Akainu for Ace’s death and the Ohara incident. The hate for Akainu was then spread to the others admiral and marines.

The only proeminent marines that are exempt from this hate are the one opposing Akainu : Kuzan, Garp, Smoker.

Hmmm. Still seems a bit odd to me because some of the biggest haters of the Admirals don’t particularly like Ace. It definitely applies to some of them though, because WB then attacking Akainu is all they think about and hold dearly.

The hate seems to run deeper than that for some of them. Their neurotic and insane behaviour tends to be beyond anything that should be expected for fictional characters in a story for youths.

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Kizaru is faster than everyone because he IS LIGHT, should everyone get neg diffed like that to him ? .... but no, just so you want it to be, Rayleigh is as fast as light and faster than SnakeMan and so is Marco and Haki is meaningless in fights, also Kaido is the slowest tank Type who is actually weakest Top Tier, but its my mistake they call him the WSC

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everything suggests Snakeman is faster than Rayleigh, every single thing, but not for you who don't want it to be so

Everything like what? Could you go ahead and list them?
What extensive battle data on Rayleigh did you use to come to that conclusion?

It has nothing to do with what I want or not. If that were the case, gear 5 wouldn’t be a thing and Luffy would just need to use Gear 4 to defeat Kaido or Kizaru.
I make no secrets of what I want.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Kizaru is faster than everyone because he IS LIGHT, should everyone get neg diffed like that to him ? .... but no, just so you want it to be, Rayleigh is as fast as light and faster than SnakeMan and so is Marco and Haki is meaningless in fights, also Kaido is the slowest tank Type who is actually weakest Top Tier, but its my mistake they call him the WSC

So either Kizaru is the strongest in the verse or he is YC1 ?
I don't ''want it to be'', it is how it is.
Being fast af doesn't make him the strongest ever, if that was the case Sanji would be a top tier.
Yes Rayleigh is fast, he was tagging Kizaru just fine and pre-ts.
Haki isn't meaningless in fights, I don't know why you're saying that?
Marco tagged Kizaru 1/2 a time come on now.

 

[Juanpiz]

So either Kizaru is the strongest in the verse or he is YC1 ?
I don't ''want it to be'', it is how it is.
Being fast af doesn't make him the strongest ever, if that was the case Sanji would be a top tier.
Yes Rayleigh is fast, he was tagging Kizaru just fine and pre-ts.
Haki isn't meaningless in fights, I don't know why you're saying that?
Marco tagged Kizaru 1/2 a time come on now.

Marco may have tagged him but retired grandpa Rayleigh did more damage to him

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

So either Kizaru is the strongest in the verse or he is YC1 ?

This is how you make him to be and how Oda portrays with his writings, if a man fights off World's Strongest Creature in normal mode he should surely pressurize Kizaru who is at least slightly weaker (or slightly stronger if you want him to be) than WSC, while being in SnakeMan mode, but Kizaru wasn't even sweating and folded the G4 so easy all when Luffy was heavily huffing an puffing sweating everywhere

Being fast af doesn't make him the strongest ever, if that was the case Sanji would be a top tier.

that again is your reasoning for Kizaru beating Luffy so easily, you are contradicting yourself, when you want speed is everything (Kizaru VS Luffy) and when you want speed doesnt matter (Sanji)

Yes Rayleigh is fast, he was tagging Kizaru just fine and pre-ts.
Haki isn't meaningless in fights, I don't know why you're saying that?
Marco tagged Kizaru 1/2 a time come on now.

you are bringing speed again, there is absolutely no way anyone is as fast speed of light except Kizaru, but it's okay for you to to Pull Rayleigh equivalent to light speed ?
that is obviously completely false
so what is it that made Rayleigh enable to fight off Kizaru, isn't it that it should be Haki enabling slower attacker to fight off faster ones ? so why are you ignoring Luffy's Haki, Luffy's Haki is so inconsistent just like Oda's writing
even if Luffy didn't have sankeman's speed feat, he should still be able to fight off Kizaru with how superior Luffy's Haki has grown,
if you are going to keep bringing speed again and again and ignoring Haki, you are going to be contradicting yourself in so many ways and adjusting yourself for the sake of your argument, you are going to tell me Zoro faster than Snakeman if Zoro was able to fight off Kizaru, and every person out there who was able to put up a fight with Kizaru, they are faster than Snakeman Luffy ignoring all the Haki he possesses
and Marco clearly kicked him AFTER Kizaru's attack ended and it was in no way a surprise attack surely you would now put Marco above snakeman for the sake of your own argument

 

[Fujishiro]

Rude awakening for Yonko fandom but it was bound to happen

First with Mihawk and now the OG admirals

Im a Yonko fan and this was expected.
@Minatoze Narutomaki you are overreacting, Luffy wasnt using ACoC and no ACoA, perhaps not even ID Haki. This chapter only hyped Kizarus blocking feats and speed, that is it.

 

[L57]

Imagine when its Mihawk s time
Bro s been slandered since marineford

 

[Thabeast]

The french op (powerlevel) community is actually just stupid. And it's weird since they're perhaps the biggest fans of the series besides Japan maybe.
I haven't been checking their takes for a while now but for years, the common take over there is admiral = commander (not even first commander, even the likes of Cracker and they didn't even back down much after Aokiji fodderized his ass lol).
They also shit on Mihawk and say he's on Vista's level.
And wank the Yonko to the extreme, especially Shanks.

I don't know why most of them are like that, it's like a cult lmao. I hope they changed their views after the recent chapters at least, but I would doubt that.

 

[BlackLegFring]

This is how you make him to be and how Oda portrays with his writings, if a man fights off World's Strongest Creature in normal mode he should surely pressurize Kizaru who is at least slightly weaker (or slightly stronger if you want him to be) than WSC, while being in SnakeMan mode, but Kizaru wasn't even sweating and folded the G4 so easy all when Luffy was heavily huffing an puffing sweating everywhere

that again is your reasoning for Kizaru beating Luffy so easily, you are contradicting yourself, when you want speed is everything (Kizaru VS Luffy) and when you want speed doesnt matter (Sanji)

you are bringing speed again, there is absolutely no way anyone is as fast speed of light except Kizaru, but it's okay for you to to Pull Rayleigh equivalent to light speed ?
that is obviously completely false
so what is it that made Rayleigh enable to fight off Kizaru, isn't it that it should be Haki enabling slower attacker to fight off faster ones ? so why are you ignoring Luffy's Haki, Luffy's Haki is so inconsistent just like Oda's writing
even if Luffy didn't have sankeman's speed feat, he should still be able to fight off Kizaru with how superior Luffy's Haki has grown,
if you are going to keep bringing speed again and again and ignoring Haki, you are going to be contradicting yourself in so many ways and adjusting yourself for the sake of your argument, you are going to tell me Zoro faster than Snakeman if Zoro was able to fight off Kizaru, and every person out there who was able to put up a fight with Kizaru, they are faster than Snakeman Luffy ignoring all the Haki he possesses
and Marco clearly kicked him AFTER Kizaru's attack ended and it was in no way a surprise attack surely you would now put Marco above snakeman for the sake of your own argument

I still don’t see why Marco kicking a motionless Kizaru is such a problem for you.
That’s no reason to put Marco over anyone in speed.

 

[Juanpiz]

I still don’t see why Marco kicking a motionless Kizaru is such a problem for you.
That’s no reason to put Marco over anyone in speed.

He lives mainly by his sick regeneration

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

I still don’t see why Marco kicking a motionless Kizaru is such a problem for you.
That’s no reason to put Marco over anyone in speed.

He wasn't froze by someone, he was capable of evading or defending, but his reaction was slower than Marco

 

[BlackLegFring]

He wasn't froze by someone, he was capable of evading or defending, but his reaction was slower than Marco

The fact that he got his arm up before Marco could kick him means he wasn’t slower than Marco.

And how exactly did you expect him to evade? He can only float, not fly.

 

[Wh1p]

@Elder Lee Hung

 

[Dragon777]

Any update after this chapter lol?

 

[Rivaille]

 

[Cruxroux]

Translate.

 

[Rivaille]

Translate.

Ask gently.

 

[Cruxroux]

Ask gently.

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[LemonadeCandy]

Translate.

"Stop already fucking stop, you are looking for excuses that are only making things worse. Can't you see it's incoherent, how can the dude who beat the strongest creature in the world get trolled by an old man who goes equal with Marco. To be honest I don't even want to debate I don't have the energy. If we are in this situation it's all because of you the pro admirals influencing Oda who doesn't know who to please anymore, but the idiot is shooting himself in the foot"

 

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@Elder Lee Hung

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[Cruxroux]

"Stop already fucking stop, you are looking for excuses that are only making things worst. Can't you see it's incoherent, how can the dude who beat the strongest creature in the world get trolled by an old man who goes equal with Marco. To be honest I don't even want to debate I don't have the energy. If we are in this situation it's all because of you the pro admirals influencing Oda who doesn't know who to please anymore, but the idiot is shooting himself in the foot"

Lol bro is too salty.
And thanks for the translation