Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1093 Spoilers Discussion

Will Sanji vs Saturn happen?


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Nobody needs adhaki to use awakening
Luffy was just using it at max vs Kaido cause he had to go all out and win ASAP

Here, Kizaru isn't really a threat nor strong as Kaido
So Oda forving the fake tension to have luffy not use adcoa and adcoc.
How exactly would adcoc help Luffy when he can’t touch Kizaru?

He literally has not touched him without a sneak attack yet.
 
As much as Old Ray is hyped,

Oda didn't want Kizaru to beat him. Rayleigh is more protected than Garp to a point Oda even has him not be beaten by Teach even tho Ray admits inferiority

Rayleigh feat was good for plot.
Kizaru would have beaten Ray with his clones if he was that serious, Ray himself admits he can't handle many people at once while fighting Kizaru

He just couldn't do it at sabaody because of CDs being present there
Kizaru :
  • Vanishing speed
  • Powerful kicks
  • Clone army
Rayleigh would lose lower-high diff
 
Nope, Kizaru didnt fight Aokiji for 10 days and ended up barely winning.
Kizaru didnt look as bad as other two against WB, he treated him like a nuisance not worth looking at.
See. You're cherrypicking situational feats while ignoring the context to make a point that was never one to begin with. Firstly, you are wrong about the Admirals especially the C3 not being equals. They are just by rank which is their portrayal. Even if we revisit the WB encounters Kuzan has dodged WB effortlessly and then the latter needed to get saved by Jozu. Please don't behave like a Yanker.

Precisely, Kuzan aint a speedster and since he can tango with Akainu for 10 days means Akainu aint a speedster either.
Kizaru is a speedster and if Garp can blitz those two, put 2 and 2 together and realize that Kizaru is blitzing Akainu/Kuzan in his sleep.
Based on which interaction and or feat can Kizaru blitz Garp? That's what your entire argument is based on. You have no proof for your claims. Sentomaru managed to react to Kizaru and Garp will surely be able to do so. Again. Cherry picking.

Kizaru's AP is ridiculously good, just because he is resorting to kicks alone vs a guy who always gets plot armor, doesnt mean his AP is bad, lol. Far from it. Kizaru didnt manage to wound Luffy with a blunt damage kick? Oh, what a shock! He should try Jewels and Sword instead.
Great. So we agree his AP is bad, did you just use plot as an excuse ? Nah that ain't working here. Kizaru had kilometres off distance and even used acceleration to increase his AP yet wasn't able to damage Luffy at all. In comparison to Kuzan and by extension Sakazuki, Kizaru's AP rn is hilariously bad.

Oh, what a shock! He should try Jewels and Sword instead.
Slashing attacks do not make up for his lack of AP.

Neither of the Admirals is built to tank attacks. They arent Kaido to match him in his main selling point or to come anywhere close.
Nobody said they are Kaido, this comparison doesn't make sense. Yet Kizaru has not proven that he can take any significant attack aCoC coated and walk off from it. Kuzan did. Akainu did.


The discussion is only pointless when you cant see stats clearly in Akainu's favor because you know, no matter what stat you choose, Kizaru is ahead.
No. The discussion is pointless because the narrative always has and will walk over feats and headcanon. I was there in Wano. I have seen how the realisation of Luffy's superior narrative importance has effected you and actually doubt everything you've believed in in regards to Zoro before that. This is the very same case just for the Admirals.
Nik, look at the characters narrative standing and importance and you will realise that all of these scenarios you create cherry picking feats don't mean much in the grand scheme when Fighter A completely outclassed Fighter B in narrative importance especially when there is a hierarchy ranking between those characters.

you think narrative favors Akainu over Kizaru, get ready for narrative to favor 5 Elders, Imu, Holy Knights and Kong above Akainu as well. Narrative praise is a double-edged sword.
It isn't. Their narrative importance has got nothing to do with Kizaru because they outrank even more since Akainu outranks Kizaru in narrative importance.

should have been clear back then, when Pirate King wasnt stronger than the guy who isnt interested in being Pirate King that Fleet Admrial aint stronger than the guy who aint interested in being Fleet Admiral either.
Completely different and you know it. Oda has gone the extra mile to make a point why WB was an exception.

didnt confuse anything. You thought attacks were landing, they didnt.
We dont know how light blocking works. It obviously completely renders Snakeman's firepower useless.
Who says it cannot render aCoC buffed hits useless too?
Did attacks connected on Kizaru's Light Guard and he was there stationary when they landed. Increased AP was the answer there and Luffy didn't use it. This wasn't a speed issue. How can you tell me that I didn't understand how it works then admit yourself that you don't know how the Light guard works ?
 
Who are you kid? Some nobody loser talking big behind a screen. Did my comments fuck your ass that you have a problem with it? Clown sucker. Sod off to your mediocre life. The only loser that sounds depressed is you. Go cry and tell your mom I smoked yo ass.
See you are clearly depressed, caught onto my bait like a clownfish. Take this as an achievement, since you really got nun.

I don’t have to deal any damage to you, I’m just rubbing salt on your wounds from these recent chapters, your entire belief system and agenda been exterminated and you can’t do anything besides cope on the internet.

don’t talk about “big and bad behind a screen”

You’ve said that behind an exact screen
:cheers:
Think before you speak, so you don’t embarrass yourself trying to flame somebodies mom over fictional characters.

Lame ass goon take a nice little jog till your cardio tells you time is up.
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
Admirals record :
  • Incompetent Akainu who can't capture nor beat nerfed kuma despite named attacks
  • "Average threat" Kizaru who can't dominate nor push hard Luffy (without adhaki). Acting like a coward by going after weaker people
  • "BIg talk" Greenbull THAT FROZE like a fodder to Shanks CoC and admitted inferiority to Kaido. He and Fuji couldn't capture a single revo. Can flex only on nerfed YCs & nerfed Retainers
  • "Incompetent" Fuji who has failed to capture a single revo or sn so far
BM record:
  • Can't capture Jimbo
  • Humiliated by Jimbo (again), robin, and franky
  • Can't defeat Ulti
  • Defeated by captain midd and low who were defeated by shanks and BB easly
 
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As much as Old Ray is hyped,

Oda didn't want Kizaru to beat him. Rayleigh is more protected than Garp to a point Oda even has him not be beaten by Teach even tho Ray admits inferiority

Rayleigh feat was good for plot.
Kizaru would have beaten Ray with his clones if he was that serious, Ray himself admits he can't handle many people at once while fighting Kizaru

He just couldn't do it at sabaody because of CDs being present there
Kizaru :
  • Vanishing speed
  • Powerful kicks
  • Clone army
Rayleigh would lose lower-high diff
Lmao , BB ran away from rayleigh...

We all know conclusion to WB will be yet bro gave such a huge show. That's what matter lol...
You robber boy haven't landed a single blow on Kizaru.
Rayleigh already cut his cheeks at this point.

Kata get vapourised lol.
 
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