General & Others Officially confirmed: Zoro is the vice captain
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Technically talking luffy is not what we will called an "average captain" and also clolda wants to treat the crew as family
But also technically talking zoro by storywise has been the most suitable not only for fighting the rhm or second strongest but also for moments
Nothing happened Ussop the one who scold luffy for losing against caesar the x drake situation vivi taking charge of the crew against lilith and facing lucci when he "betrayed" them speaking in the name of the crew......
But also technically talking zoro by storywise has been the most suitable not only for fighting the rhm or second strongest but also for moments
Nothing happened Ussop the one who scold luffy for losing against caesar the x drake situation vivi taking charge of the crew against lilith and facing lucci when he "betrayed" them speaking in the name of the crew......
People should learn to read basic english
But I know agenda is too strong so they pretend they can't (some actually can't, though)
Oda never said that the characters on the cover of 1031 aren't the First Mates of their groups/crews
He literally said a complete different thing
Which is that the illustration isn't a depictment of the First Mates
But depicts the Number Twos of the groups
Literally implying that Penguin and Shachi might be better First Mates than Bepo, but Bepo is without a doubt the Number Two because he is that much stronger than them
Number Two = Second Strongest
Thus
Bepo >> Shachi and Penguin
Katakuri >> Cracker
Rayleigh >> Gaban
Zoro >> Sanji
Benn Beckman >> Lucky Roux
King >> Queen
Sabo >> Ivankov
Killer >> Wire
Marco >> Jozu
Shiryu >> Lafitte (Aokiji is clearly a fake member of the BBP, he will betray them and Oda knows obviously)
Learn to read damn
It's basic english
In fact Oda then also recalls this
With Lucci's words
And cope
This was approved by Oda
As much as this
See how everything goes into the same direction?
Weird, huh? As if simply Zoro was Luffy's right-hand man, the second strongest after Luffy, and the crew's first mate, basically what Rayleigh was for Roger and the Roger Pirates... huh, go figure who is the Zoro of the old generation and who is the Rayleigh of the new generation...
N.B. Bartolomeo represents the embodiment of the ultra dedicated aficionado of One Piece, a fanboy of the ENTIRE MUGIWARA CREW, he worships all of them and knows everything about them, not just Zoro, ALL OF THEM
So the fact Oda had him say these words should have already kill any argument
But Sanji fanboys exist
And bring toxicity in the community with their delusional denial
Why deny the evidence?
But I know agenda is too strong so they pretend they can't (some actually can't, though)
Oda never said that the characters on the cover of 1031 aren't the First Mates of their groups/crews
He literally said a complete different thing
Which is that the illustration isn't a depictment of the First Mates
But depicts the Number Twos of the groups
Literally implying that Penguin and Shachi might be better First Mates than Bepo, but Bepo is without a doubt the Number Two because he is that much stronger than them
Number Two = Second Strongest
Thus
Bepo >> Shachi and Penguin
Katakuri >> Cracker
Rayleigh >> Gaban
Zoro >> Sanji
Benn Beckman >> Lucky Roux
King >> Queen
Sabo >> Ivankov
Killer >> Wire
Marco >> Jozu
Shiryu >> Lafitte (Aokiji is clearly a fake member of the BBP, he will betray them and Oda knows obviously)
Learn to read damn
It's basic english
In fact Oda then also recalls this
With Lucci's words
And cope
This was approved by Oda
As much as this
See how everything goes into the same direction?
Weird, huh? As if simply Zoro was Luffy's right-hand man, the second strongest after Luffy, and the crew's first mate, basically what Rayleigh was for Roger and the Roger Pirates... huh, go figure who is the Zoro of the old generation and who is the Rayleigh of the new generation...
N.B. Bartolomeo represents the embodiment of the ultra dedicated aficionado of One Piece, a fanboy of the ENTIRE MUGIWARA CREW, he worships all of them and knows everything about them, not just Zoro, ALL OF THEM
So the fact Oda had him say these words should have already kill any argument
But Sanji fanboys exist
And bring toxicity in the community with their delusional denial
Why deny the evidence?
The one's being called the number 2 are the ones who are most important/figurehead of the organization after the captain/leader. These are recognized by the world as the one's who are the second in command.
Lucci saying what he said emphasizes that killing the number 2 of a Yonko is a worthy feat, something that will significantly affect the crew/organization, the importance of such a blow is second only to taking out the captain.
Yeah sure that's no doubt on that, why you say I was wrong?
Lucci's words in the chapter obviously confirm not only that Zoro is the N2 i.e. the second strongest (lol Sanji lol lmao)
But also that the N2 is a very important figure, whose value is comparable to the captain ("more than worth killing on his own").
Lucci's words in the chapter obviously confirm not only that Zoro is the N2 i.e. the second strongest (lol Sanji lol lmao)
But also that the N2 is a very important figure, whose value is comparable to the captain ("more than worth killing on his own").
It's over. Zoro is officially confirmed as right hand/vice captain/first mate or whatever you want to call the 2nd strongest in a group.
This was rather obvious, there is a shit ton of feats and portrayal from manga and databooks that are clear proof. A good 90% of people have always been sure of that, only a small minority dared to argue against the blatant evidence.
But now it's literally undesputable. Thankfully, Oda killed any remaining argument.
These characters (Marco, Shiryu, Ben Beckman, Rayleigh, Katakuri, King, Sabo, Killer, Bepo, Zoro) have nothing in common for Oda to put them together as if there was a precise reason.
Nothing in common; bar a single thing.
Being the obvious 2nds strongest/right hands/vice captain/first mates of their crews and groups.
The One Piece official account textually stated that Zoro and co are the Number Twos of their crews/groups.
It's time to face a simple reality: no mindfuckery and bullshit about roles (Zoro and Killer are listed as "fighters" but they clearly act as vice captains/right hands), or about relationships (Shiryu joined the crew later than other characters), or about age (Katakuri being younger than Perospero).
This is a shonen and Oda makes things easy. Strength means hierarchy. Hierarchy is because of strength. The strongest is the leader and the captain. The 2nd strongest is the right hand of the captain and factually acts as vice captain. Then there's the rest of the crew.
The only difference is between right hands/2nds that are very close to the captain and almost as strong as him (Rayleigh to Roger, Zoro to Luffy, Ben to Shanks, Killer to Kidd) and right hands/2nds that while stronger than anyone else in the crew are not that close to the captain (King to Kaido, Katakuri to Big Mom, Marco to Whitebeard).
The beginning draft of the cover shows Oda's intent maybe even better than the final one: all characters are drew in the same way, and to Marco, Shiryu, Ben Beckman, Rayleigh, Katakuri, King, Sabo, Killer, Bepo and Zoro there are also added Mr 1 (Crocodile's right hand) and Vito (Capone's right hand).
Again, all these characters have nothing in common bar the most obvious thing: being the 2nd strongest in their respective crew/group.
@Finalbeta @T.D.A @Zowo @yorosenpai @ConquistadoR @Fenaker @The White Crane @Blother @kumae @Geo @Sentinel
This was rather obvious, there is a shit ton of feats and portrayal from manga and databooks that are clear proof. A good 90% of people have always been sure of that, only a small minority dared to argue against the blatant evidence.
But now it's literally undesputable. Thankfully, Oda killed any remaining argument.
These characters (Marco, Shiryu, Ben Beckman, Rayleigh, Katakuri, King, Sabo, Killer, Bepo, Zoro) have nothing in common for Oda to put them together as if there was a precise reason.
Nothing in common; bar a single thing.
Being the obvious 2nds strongest/right hands/vice captain/first mates of their crews and groups.
The One Piece official account textually stated that Zoro and co are the Number Twos of their crews/groups.
It's time to face a simple reality: no mindfuckery and bullshit about roles (Zoro and Killer are listed as "fighters" but they clearly act as vice captains/right hands), or about relationships (Shiryu joined the crew later than other characters), or about age (Katakuri being younger than Perospero).
This is a shonen and Oda makes things easy. Strength means hierarchy. Hierarchy is because of strength. The strongest is the leader and the captain. The 2nd strongest is the right hand of the captain and factually acts as vice captain. Then there's the rest of the crew.
The only difference is between right hands/2nds that are very close to the captain and almost as strong as him (Rayleigh to Roger, Zoro to Luffy, Ben to Shanks, Killer to Kidd) and right hands/2nds that while stronger than anyone else in the crew are not that close to the captain (King to Kaido, Katakuri to Big Mom, Marco to Whitebeard).
The beginning draft of the cover shows Oda's intent maybe even better than the final one: all characters are drew in the same way, and to Marco, Shiryu, Ben Beckman, Rayleigh, Katakuri, King, Sabo, Killer, Bepo and Zoro there are also added Mr 1 (Crocodile's right hand) and Vito (Capone's right hand).
Again, all these characters have nothing in common bar the most obvious thing: being the 2nd strongest in their respective crew/group.
@Finalbeta @T.D.A @Zowo @yorosenpai @ConquistadoR @Fenaker @The White Crane @Blother @kumae @Geo @Sentinel
