I think Caesar Clown’s existence killed the theory that he had a wind logia, it would seem like a watered down inferior version as CC can control all gas which includes the “air” that makes up the wind.
On top of that logically I can’t see a way for a wind logia to work since he would be invisible as a natural gas, while devaluing the Suke Suke too. So my bet is either paramecia or another mythical zoan.
There are theories of Haki manipulating the elements too so I’ll include that. I don’t think it’s far fetched at all we see Haki lightning all the time, along with people conjuring fire somehow, and flying slashes/shockwaves attacks exist.
What if... instead of a Wind Logia, he has something like a Typhoon 🌀 Logia. It would emphasize the effects taking place during a specific meteorological event rather than a specific environment like the Forest fruit or the Swamp fruit.
It would make sense though because he seemingly changed the atmosphere surrounding an island before to such a degree the wind and rain started to break stuff. I think the real power there is ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE as a result of the forces in a storm. So, he could have a Rain God fruit or he could have a Typhoon fruit.
It is a type of power that affects an entire island. Many other abilities affect entire islands as well, but only a few of them can cause destruction on that scale. The air pressure of these storms causes objects to break and people can't even exist in it if it's too dense.
Why would a wind logia be a watered down version of gas? The Gas logia being able to manipulate and absorb oxygen around a limited area = large scale wind creation and manipulation, which would include creating storms and hurricanes. In chapter 100, Dragon seemingly manipulated the weather and created a storm that went far beyond the island.
Explain the distinction because it is no where near unique enough to have 2 logias that are the same thing essentially.
Wind: The natural movement of the air
Air: Combination of all the natural gases of the atmosphere majority oxygen and nitrogen
Caesar Clown very clearly controls oxygen as part of his powers. It makes more sense for “wind” to be in another DF category. The same way there is a fire logia and a heat paramecia.
Bullshit.
Awakened wind logia that causes hurricanes and tsunamis and his fruit as dangerous to the world as whitebeards.
In logutetown he was casually beyond the size of the whole island in range.
- Kilo fruit and Ton fruit
- Blade fruit and Weapon fruit
- Snow fruit and ice fruit
- Several sweets (Biscuit, Candy, Mochi)
What cannot exist in parallel:
- A Gas Logia that manipulates and removes oxygen around a small area
- A Wind Logia that allows you to create storms and hurricanes island wide and create wind based attacks
A typhoon can still affect more than an island. I only made that comparison to conclude it is a large scale ability that can encompass an entire island not specifically that it is limited to an islands range as they vary in size.
Why would a wind logia be a watered down version of gas? The Gas logia being able to manipulate and absorb oxygen around a limited area = large scale wind creation and manipulation, which would include creating storms and hurricanes. In chapter 100, Dragon seemingly manipulated the weather and created a storm that went far beyond the island.
None of what you said makes any sense. You make it sound like gas fruit users are limited to a smaller radius through that one suffocation technique when they would obviously have as much range as the other logias especially if the user is a top tier like Dragon hypothetically
Caesar could already manipulate the Land of Death gas thing and it was an island wide gas cloud. Zero proof Dragon caused the storm, storms are natural too and it’s not like that’s a combat feat that can be applied.
Bullshit.
Awakened wind logia that causes hurricanes and tsunamis and his fruit as dangerous to the world as whitebeards.
In logutetown he was casually beyond the size of the whole island in range.
Speculation and no reason Caesar couldn’t do that while awakened or someone stronger with his fruit. He and Monet already manipulated the snow side of Punk Hazard making blizzards, etc.
- Kilo fruit and Ton fruit
- Blade fruit and Weapon fruit
- Snow fruit and ice fruit
- Several sweets (Biscuit, Candy, Mochi)
What cannot exist in parallel:
- A Gas Logia that manipulates and removes oxygen around a small area
- A Wind Logia that allows you to create storms and hurricanes island wide and create wind based attacks
The Gas Logia controls gas period, genius. That includes the gases in the air.
A wind paramecia could do that too and not be a carbon copy that’s a debuff.
You people need to pick up a dictionary. Wind is just invisible gases moving, no reason that would be a seperate logia from the Gas fruit which is the be all end all
None of what you said makes any sense. You make it sound like gas fruit users are limited to a smaller radius through that one suffocation technique when they would obviously have as much range as the other logias especially if the user is a top tier like Dragon hypothetically
The range was literally defined in the Manga. It's a small area you can escape from. But even if the range was bigger, which isn't the case, wind manipulation is still another power. Especially since Dragon can control storms.
So why can snow + ice and kilo + ton exist but not gas and wind?
Congratulations none of that disproves it being another category? Like are you people mentally challenged or something? Fujitora didn’t need to be a gravity logia to manipulate gravity or create it. Yamato and Marco can control their element even in base, etc.
The range was literally defined in the Manga. It's a small area you can escape from. But even if the range was bigger, which isn't the case, wind manipulation is still another power. Especially since Dragon can control storms.
So why can snow + ice and kilo + ton exist but not gas and wind?
The range of that one hax technique. Try again. I’m convinced you people failed science or just plain dumb. WIND IS GAS
CAESAR CAN ALREADY MANIPULATE THE WIND. Two similar paramecias existing has already been acknowledged by Oda but Logias are the rarest and each logia is different.
Congratulations none of that disproves it being another category? Like are you people mentally challenged or something? Fujitora didn’t need to be a gravity logia to manipulate gravity or create it. Yamato and Marco can control their element even in base, etc.
Congratulations none of that disproves it being another category? Like are you people mentally challenged or something? Fujitora didn’t need to be a gravity logia to manipulate gravity or create it. Yamato and Marco can control their element even in base, etc.
@SakazOuki posted the scan of Dragon seemingly instantly covering a large area and appearing on the ship with a trail of wind coming from his body. It at least stands to reason that it's a logia.
Meanwhile your only counter argument is ... that Caesar has a Gas logia. Which is quite the silly conclusion.
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