Who will be the Next Strawhat?


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I'm just calling you out for making up words
Also, if you're just going to claim the dictionary definition is wrong
Just incomplete. There is no such thing as "proof in linguistic", usage makes the rule.

I'm using that word because this is a word we uses in french and because it is also used in english in usage (in my knowledge at least). Thinking that I'm trying to be "pseudo intellectual" and being seemingly threatened by it in the process is a really poor vision of what I bring to the table. I'm using terms in the most efficiant way I know, so yes, sometime I uses neologism or word that comes from french because I either don't know the equivalent in english or just want to get straight to the point, and sometimes inventing words is practical (note that I always give a definition when asked). This is one of the reason why I used neologism to describe certain storytelling concepts as ... despite my background and many hours of research I sometimes see missing conceptualizations of storytelling stuff..

First step for you I think, is to stop thinking that I'm trying to be Queen Elysabeth and start trying to see me as I am: a normal guys who loves theorizing a lot about storytelling, who has knowledge that you might have missed and likes to share that knowledge. Simple as that.


ANYWAY...

Let's come back to Bonney and let's expand on the matter. What does Bonney lacks ? A post. But more so than a post, she lacks a real thematic related to a skill.

But this doesn't stop to Bonney, it uncompass almost all the candidates for the strawhat ship past and present.

In One Piece I've noticed (if you prefer that formulation rather that an affirmation) that Post are attached to skill and that those skills are attached to a thematic and in some ways, to some storylines.

I will show that for all the strawhat for people to understand how important this is:

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Zoro, even if a part of the fanbase denies it, is the first mate.


And even if its not obvious, it comes with the set of skills, that skill is first to be the best combattant after the captain but also the one who is able to know the role of leader so much, that he can become one when the time comes. He needs to know his captain so well that he can think ahead. This is what Zoro showned at WaterSeven.

This is the skill part, the part that is important for the crew on the sea. But this skill comes with a thematic. For Zoro its honor and confidence. But even more so, the concept of the promisse, a promisse to Kuina and to Luffy. And you can look, this thematic is the bone of the structure of Zoro's backstory and overall character arc.

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Nami is the navigator. For her, this is the notions of intelligence and reliability. Her set of skill is the navigation, to the point where Nami has a quasi magical sence of looking at the sea (thing that is still unexplained btw) and is therefore extremely reliable. Nami is the glue and the "mother" of the crew. She is the one on which we count to advance. This thematic of reliability is also at the center of Nami's character arc and backstory. She is the thief, the one that shouldn't be trusted but she is also the one who had to learn how to rely on other and her friend. Her intelligence as a child saved her village and her reliability is sticking the crew together now.

-----

Usopp is the sniper but also the lyer, we must note those two sets of skills, they render the character really interesting. First Usopp is a Sharp Shooter but also a lyer. Those two skill actually work in tandem. Usopp's thematics are courage and pride. Usopp is a fine storyteller that transforms lies into truth. As such he is the one that transform his own destiny into something amazing. He is the one who always has to surpasses his own fear and own pride to become someone reliable and therefore a pride warrior of the sea. His skills are related to his vision he has of his own dad and should therefore flourish (pun intended) once he overcomes this abandon by facing him.

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Sanji is the cook. Sanji's skills are the notions Zeff taught him about life and food. The thematic of Sanji is the notion of Kindness. Even if he is a tough guy sometimes, he is the one that won't hesitate to feed the ennemy. This kindness comes from his mother and is therefore relevant in the way he treats women. Reenforce by the way Zeff educated him. His skill and this thematic really shined in whole cake (reason why I love this arc so much).

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Chopper is the doctor. His skills are obviously related to medecine, but his thematic - at least how I see it - is where it gets interesting. Chopper is a hard case but I think, i THINK.. that his thematic revolves around acceptance. Chopper was a monster and was rescused by a false doctor who accepted him as he was. But this did not stop Chopper from seeing himself as a monster, the death of Hiluluk in fact reenforced that sentiment. But Chopper finally accepted himself for Luffy, as a real monster if needed. And that's where I think Chopper's arc is unfinished. I think a realization lies ahead. A realization that he can't heal everything as promissed to his old friend. A sad but also liberating realization as it might permits him to find a real way to give a treatment to someone.. that might need it one day.... ahem.

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Robin is the archeologist. Her skills are the capacity of reading poneglyph and decipher history. Her thematic more subtle, is the notion of purpose, of "cap" (yes, french word, no word like that in english). Robin is the one that opens the road in front of the crew and sets the metaphoric destination. Her story is all about finding the truth and the reason behind the eradication of her family. This is her purpose, but also one of the purpose of the story and the strawhats, to understand, to discover.

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Franky is the shipwright. His skills are enginnering and construction. But like Usopp, the thematic of Franky is pride. Pride and selflove. This is a different type of pride than for Usopp, this is the pride to be himself. The story of Franky is all about this concept of self love to the point that Franky turned himself into the thing he dreams. But the biggest pride of Franky is his work, his constructions. That pride was challenged during Franky's flashback, as Franky's weapon are at the center of his mentor's death. But like Tom said, "there is nothing good and nothing bad in building a ship no matter what kind of ship it is. I don't care what kind of ships you build from now on!![...] Men should puff out their chests with pride and Boom over the ships they build" Which is basically another term for "men should be pride of their children no matter what". This is why Franky seeing with pride the Sunny going to the end of the world is so important thematically.

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Brook is the musician. His skills are music and jokes. His thematic are the importance of the joy of life. His promisse to Laboon is just that, a testimony of life, the proof that he is still here. His character is all about life and the joy of living. And this reflects in his music.

-----

Jinbe is the Helmsman. His skill are the navigation at sea and everything surrounding the guidance of the ship. Jinbe's thematic is very subtle, its all about Sacrifice abnegation and guidance. Jinbe is the one that his willing to sacrifice himself in order to save generations, he is also the one who will help the crew in dire situation who will guide it toward the light and life.

I didn't mention the different moments in the manga, but I'm sure that you can find different moments for each character. They are pretty easy to find.


As you guys can see each characters (I forgot Luffy, but his thematics are pretty obvious) has a particular sets of skills that are made to resonnate with the thematic of their story/character arc/Backstories. And this is why the moments I call "THE SHINING NAKAMA ACTION" are SO IMPORTANT to see if a character is a good candidate to be a strawhat. As this moment usually is the magical interaction between the skillset as a crewmate and the thematic of the character.


This is the main reason I went to battle against you guys since the beginning. As almost NO candidate proposed depicted such deeply thought characterization.

No Yamato
No Bonney
No Vivi
No Vegapunk (at least for now until further development)
No Lilith
No Lucci
No Smoker
No Bellamy

No character.. but one.

This is the prime reason why I started studying that character, I noticed something different, something that I recognized because it was in all the previous strawhat.

The thematics of this character are wonder and innocence. Its all about the act of seeing. Its ALL over the story of this character, in its interactions with other, in the way this character see the world and in the way we sometimes see the character itself. Its so amazing that it uncompass the core quality of One Piece. So of course when you remark that the skills and the design/inspiration of the character is all about the act of seeing and the wonder you start to ... wonder. Someone that can jump high in the sky, that can float in the wind, that has the experience of a lookout.. a child that has the innocence and the knowledge of the world of a newborn.. what better way to challenge that wonder that to make them see the reality of life, the sacrifice of their mentor, the defeat in war.

So you can see my surprise when you put such a character back into the position of the start..

Do you really think that Oda would put so much effort into said character and end up their arc with an half ended story ?

Sorry.. I'm still not convinced that this is the end for Carrot.

I can't accept it as a storyteller. Either there was a BIG change in the plans of Oda (and I'm not talking about a simple editor being a fool) or ... we are about to see Zunisha again real soon.
 
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Saturn appears to be Bonney's personal villain. I think that about wraps this up. It's her or no one. There's simply no time to add someone after egghead, so whoever it is is joining this arc if at all. If the arc villain is her nemesis, that leaves her as the only remaining option.
Doesn't she feel like an arc princess to you here? She had, like Yamato, more important moments with Vegapunk and memory device, she has a strong connection to Vegapunk and Kuma, just like Yamato had a connection with Momo and Ace.
Plus, Bonney is currently driven by revenge, which is not characteristic for SHP as an end goal, and we still don't really know her grand dream (yeah, she wants to save Kuma, but it doesn't sit well with other dreams like drawing a map of the world or becoming WSS).

I mean, I wouldn't mind her, but to me it seems like there's a different role for her in he story.
 
Saturn appears to be Bonney's personal villain. I think that about wraps this up. It's her or no one. There's simply no time to add someone after egghead, so whoever it is is joining this arc if at all. If the arc villain is her nemesis, that leaves her as the only remaining option.
Bonney feels more like an arc princess like Rebecca. Nah imo the final member (Sabo) will join during Elbaf.
 
I forgot if i was Lucci4nakama or kuma4nakama
You were definitely on the Lucci4nakama-train!
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No he joined the Kuma4nakama train last week, you're too late to cult him
No, he did not make up his mind, yet. So, it is not too late! :kata:
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Just incomplete. There is no such thing as "proof in linguistic", usage makes the rule.

I'm using that word because this is a word we uses in french and because it is also used in english in usage (in my knowledge at least). Thinking that I'm trying to be "pseudo intellectual" and being seemingly threatened by it in the process is a really poor vision of what I bring to the table. I'm using terms in the most efficiant way I know, so yes, sometime I uses neologism or word that comes from french because I either don't know the equivalent in english or just want to get straight to the point, and sometimes inventing words is practical (note that I always give a definition when asked). This is one of the reason why I used neologism to describe certain storytelling concepts as ... despite my background and many hours of research I sometimes see missing conceptualizations of storytelling stuff..

First step for you I think, is to stop thinking that I'm trying to be Queen Elysabeth and start trying to see me as I am: a normal guys who loves theorizing a lot about storytelling, who has knowledge that you might have missed and likes to share that knowledge. Simple as that.


ANYWAY...

Let's come back to Bonney and let's expand on the matter. What does Bonney lacks ? A post. But more so than a post, she lacks a real thematic related to a skill.

But this doesn't stop to Bonney, it uncompass almost all the candidates for the strawhat ship past and present.

In One Piece I've noticed (if you prefer that formulation rather that an affirmation) that Post are attached to skill and that those skills are attached to a thematic and in some ways, to some storylines.

I will show that for all the strawhat for people to understand how important this is:

-----

Zoro, even if a part of the fanbase denies it, is the first mate.


And even if its not obvious, it comes with the set of skills, that skill is first to be the best combattant after the captain but also the one who is able to know the role of leader so much, that he can become one when the time comes. He needs to know his captain so well that he can think ahead. This is what Zoro showned at WaterSeven.

This is the skill part, the part that is important for the crew on the sea. But this skill comes with a thematic. For Zoro its honor and confidence. But even more so, the concept of the promisse, a promisse to Kuina and to Luffy. And you can look, this thematic is the bone of the structure of Zoro's backstory and overall character arc.

-----

Nami is the navigator. For her, this is the notions of intelligence and reliability. Her set of skill is the navigation, to the point where Nami has a quasi magical sence of looking at the sea (thing that is still unexplained btw) and is therefore extremely reliable. Nami is the glue and the "mother" of the crew. She is the one on which we count to advance. This thematic of reliability is also at the center of Nami's character arc and backstory. She is the thief, the one that shouldn't be trusted but she is also the one who had to learn how to rely on other and her friend. Her intelligence as a child saved her village and her reliability is sticking the crew together now.

-----

Usopp is the sniper but also the lyer, we must note those two sets of skills, they render the character really interesting. First Usopp is a Sharp Shooter but also a lyer. Those two skill actually work in tandem. Usopp's thematics are courage and pride. Usopp is a fine storyteller that transforms lies into truth. As such he is the one that transform his own destiny into something amazing. He is the one who always has to surpasses his own fear and own pride to become someone reliable and therefore a pride warrior of the sea. His skills are related to his vision he has of his own dad and should therefore flourish (pun intended) once he overcomes this abandon by facing him.

-----

Sanji is the cook. Sanji's skills are the notions Zeff taught him about life and food. The thematic of Sanji is the notion of Kindness. Even if he is a tough guy sometimes, he is the one that won't hesitate to feed the ennemy. This kindness comes from his mother and is therefore relevant in the way he treats women. Reenforce by the way Zeff educated him. His skill and this thematic really shined in whole cake (reason why I love this arc so much).

-----

Chopper is the doctor. His skills are obviously related to medecine, but his thematic - at least how I see it - is where it gets interesting. Chopper is a hard case but I think, i THINK.. that his thematic revolves around acceptance. Chopper was a monster and was rescused by a false doctor who accepted him as he was. But this did not stop Chopper from seeing himself as a monster, the death of Hiluluk in fact reenforced that sentiment. But Chopper finally accepted himself for Luffy, as a real monster if needed. And that's where I think Chopper's arc is unfinished. I think a realization lies ahead. A realization that he can't heal everything as promissed to his old friend. A sad but also liberating realization as it might permits him to find a real way to give a treatment to someone.. that might need it one day.... ahem.

-----

Robin is the archeologist. Her skills are the capacity of reading poneglyph and decipher history. Her thematic more subtle, is the notion of purpose, of "cap" (yes, french word, no word like that in english). Robin is the one that opens the road in front of the crew and sets the metaphoric destination. Her story is all about finding the truth and the reason behind the eradication of her family. This is her purpose, but also one of the purpose of the story and the strawhats, to understand, to discover.

-----

Franky is the shipwright. His skills are enginnering and construction. But like Usopp, the thematic of Franky is pride. Pride and selflove. This is a different type of pride than for Usopp, this is the pride to be himself. The story of Franky is all about this concept of self love to the point that Franky turned himself into the thing he dreams. But the biggest pride of Franky is his work, his constructions. That pride was challenged during Franky's flashback, as Franky's weapon are at the center of his mentor's death. But like Tom said, "there is nothing good and nothing bad in building a ship no matter what kind of ship it is. I don't care what kind of ships you build from now on!![...] Men should puff out their chests with pride and Boom over the ships they build" Which is basically another term for "men should be pride of their children no matter what". This is why Franky seeing with pride the Sunny going to the end of the world is so important thematically.

-----

Brook is the musician. His skills are music and jokes. His thematic are the importance of the joy of life. His promisse to Laboon is just that, a testimony of life, the proof that he is still here. His character is all about life and the joy of living. And this reflects in his music.

-----

Jinbe is the Helmsman. His skill are the navigation at sea and everything surrounding the guidance of the ship. Jinbe's thematic is very subtle, its all about Sacrifice abnegation and guidance. Jinbe is the one that his willing to sacrifice himself in order to save generations, he is also the one who will help the crew in dire situation who will guide it toward the light and life.

I didn't mention the different moments in the manga, but I'm sure that you can find different moments for each character. They are pretty easy to find.


As you guys can see each characters (I forgot Luffy, but his thematics are pretty obvious) has a particular sets of skills that are made to resonnate with the thematic of their story/character arc/Backstories. And this is why the moments I call "THE SHINING NAKAMA ACTION" are SO IMPORTANT to see if a character is a good candidate to be a strawhat. As this moment usually is the magical interaction between the skillset as a crewmate and the thematic of the character.


This is the main reason I went to battle against you guys since the beginning. As almost NO candidate proposed depicted such deeply thought characterization.

No Yamato
No Bonney
No Vivi
No Vegapunk (at least for now until further development)
No Lilith
No Lucci
No Smoker
No Bellamy

No character.. but one.

This is the prime reason why I started studying that character, I noticed something different, something that I recognized because it was in all the previous strawhat.

The thematics of this character are wonder and innocence. Its all about the act of seeing. Its ALL over the story of this character, in its interactions with other, in the way this character see the world and in the way we sometimes see the character itself. Its so amazing that it uncompass the core quality of One Piece. So of course when you remark that the skills and the design/inspiration of the character is all about the act of seeing and the wonder you start to ... wonder. Someone that can jump high in the sky, that can float in the wind, that has the experience of a lookout.. a child that has the innocence and the knowledge of the world of a newborn.. what better way to challenge that wonder that to make them see the reality of life, the sacrifice of their mentor, the defeat in war.

So you can see my surprise when you put such a character back into the position of the start..

Do you really think that Oda would put so much effort into said character and end up their arc with an half ended story ?

Sorry.. I'm still not convinced that this is the end for Carrot.

I can't accept it as a storyteller. Either there was a BIG change in the plans of Oda (and I'm not talking about a simple editor being a fool) or ... we are about to see Zunisha again real soon.
There is actually a thematic the Egghead-arc revolves around. I think you would agree with me, if I were to describe it as follows:

Here on Egghead we have Dr Vegapunk, whose dream it is for peace to reign over all countries of the world and prevent wars from happening with his inventions and findings, he is producing. On the cover story with Ceasar this is getting clear as the story dives into MADS, which was founded as the “Laboratory of Peace”, with its head inventor being Vegapunk, who made several inventions such as the weapon, which transformed bullets into flowers, or cloning someone. After Stussy was cloned, he even said that “[…] that is a huge step towards world peace!!”. Oda also named chapter 1068 “A Genuis’ dream” and even the entire volume 106 after said chapter, which underlines its importance to the story and the fact that the thematic of Egghead is, in fact “Peace”.

The only thing that stands out is the fact that Vegapunk disregards Jinbe’s concern about one of his inventions as `stuff he should not worry about´. That means Vegapunk is ready to make some `small´ sacrifices if it means that he can reach his own greater goal/dream (chapter 1067).

I hope that this is something, we can agree upon, right?



And now to the fun fact: This is also a reoccurring theme with Lucci, who was once depicted as a small child with an olive-branch (symbol of peace) in his hand, his white pet pigeon Hatori (symbol of peace) next to him and the word “peace” (reference to peace) written on his shirt. Those are three things, which are all referring to the theme of the Egghead arc.

And during the story of Water 7, Lucci even commented on Iceberg, who refused to give the WG the location of the blueprints with: “Yet you would dare to stand in our way? Even now, people over the world being victimized by pirates … and you’re saying you wont help them?”

This tells us how Lucci is thinking. He himself finds it not good that Iceberg refuses to help the people, who are being victimized by pirates. It also shows us what is driving him. Helping people over the world be freed of the pirates, he considers as being all bad.

And now the cool part: Lucci also regards sacrifices as something you have to do, if you want to reach your goal (in his case world peace), just like Vegapunk. Because, he was ready to sacrifice Robin for the greater good of making pirates stop victimizing people. On the Puffing Tom, he even comments on her being born under an unlucky star. Meaning: He thought it was bad that he had to sacrifice Robin, but he needed to do it to acquire world peace.

In their thinking Vegapunk and Lucci have the same goal and approach it in the same way! Both – Lucci more than Vegapunk - need to realize that you do not have to make sacrifices to reach your goal.



Rob Lucci: His skill is his strategical thinking. And I can even proof that with the current arc-development.

Most people do not see it, because it is just subtle, but Lucci’s skill is already on full display here.

The current chapter even proofs my point, because look at our pirate captain here: We have a Luffy, who, after Kizaru mentioned that he has no time to be stalled by Luffy, says: “That’s the idea! I’m doing my job!!” He admits that he has a job, a task, which he was doing since now. And it is to prevent Kizaru from hurting his friends and stalling the admiral. Luffy not only understands that he needs to do a task, but he is following that task to the letter.

In general, the SHP behave like they are following a plan now, since in contrast to former arcs, in which they often than not busted the plan of their companions (Pauli, Law, Bege, Kinemon), because those people could not handle the crew’s `unusual´ approach, they are now working together (using more communication amongst each other).

For a few arcs now, the SHPs needed someone, who is actually foreseeing in their strategical approach and able to incorporate each of the crew’s talents into a fitting plan that the tactician can then communicate to the crew in a way that everyone understands their part and acts accordingly. Luffy for example understands his part very well.

Then look at Stussy: I told everyone that she is a spy and not on the side of the SHP. And look, just who Lucci is coincidently hurting with his attack: Stussy (Who is in my understanding of the story the enemy.). Coinicdence? Sanji does not even react to her being hurt, even if he swooned all over her before all that.

Now that Saturn is here, it will even get more difficult to flee the island and this strategy of Luccis needs to accommodate such a change into the overall plan. For every tactician this can proof very difficult. If he is not good at his skill (which he is), this could be the end of the SHPs and Vegapunk.

As for the `Shining nakama moment´: The arc is nearing it’s peak, and we will soon see, on which side Lucci is. Because the fight he currently participates in with Zolo does not even seem to be that important to Oda. It is mostly off-paneled and Zolo does not even wear his bandana. As I said in previous comments, Lucci is not Zolo’s main fight. And it will probably soon be interrupted or something else… . And if you think back at how Oda went through all the hassle with the alliance between Kaku and Lucci on one side and the SHP on the other, only to at the end sacrifice it - for what?: For Lucci’s failed attempt at killing Vegapunk, so Zolo can have a fight, Oda is not even focussing on?

That makes no sense.

No, the alliance was in full play right at the time of Oda’s little time skip. We as reader, however did not see how good or bad Lucci worked together with the SHPs and are not aware that this little strategical plan of our pigeon guy is now the underlying cause that everyone of them possibly now seems to exactly know what to do.

Lucci is not on the side of the WG – he is on his own side right now and helps the SHP and Vegapunk flee from the island.


I have one more detail I want to share: Luffy as of now is just stalling Kizaru. His intention is not to fight him, but to prevent him from hurting his friends. For him to butt heads with the admiral, he needs to have a reason. Like we saw him having as he fought Lucci in Enies Lobby, Doflamingo in Dressrosa, or almost every other main villain of the story.

That means that some major event still has to happen to make Luffy want to engage in a real fight against Kizaru.
 
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Just incomplete. There is no such thing as "proof in linguistic", usage makes the rule.

I'm using that word because this is a word we uses in french and because it is also used in english in usage (in my knowledge at least). Thinking that I'm trying to be "pseudo intellectual" and being seemingly threatened by it in the process is a really poor vision of what I bring to the table. I'm using terms in the most efficiant way I know, so yes, sometime I uses neologism or word that comes from french because I either don't know the equivalent in english or just want to get straight to the point, and sometimes inventing words is practical (note that I always give a definition when asked). This is one of the reason why I used neologism to describe certain storytelling concepts as ... despite my background and many hours of research I sometimes see missing conceptualizations of storytelling stuff..

First step for you I think, is to stop thinking that I'm trying to be Queen Elysabeth and start trying to see me as I am: a normal guys who loves theorizing a lot about storytelling, who has knowledge that you might have missed and likes to share that knowledge. Simple as that.


ANYWAY...

Let's come back to Bonney and let's expand on the matter. What does Bonney lacks ? A post. But more so than a post, she lacks a real thematic related to a skill.

But this doesn't stop to Bonney, it uncompass almost all the candidates for the strawhat ship past and present.

In One Piece I've noticed (if you prefer that formulation rather that an affirmation) that Post are attached to skill and that those skills are attached to a thematic and in some ways, to some storylines.

I will show that for all the strawhat for people to understand how important this is:

-----

Zoro, even if a part of the fanbase denies it, is the first mate.


And even if its not obvious, it comes with the set of skills, that skill is first to be the best combattant after the captain but also the one who is able to know the role of leader so much, that he can become one when the time comes. He needs to know his captain so well that he can think ahead. This is what Zoro showned at WaterSeven.

This is the skill part, the part that is important for the crew on the sea. But this skill comes with a thematic. For Zoro its honor and confidence. But even more so, the concept of the promisse, a promisse to Kuina and to Luffy. And you can look, this thematic is the bone of the structure of Zoro's backstory and overall character arc.

-----

Nami is the navigator. For her, this is the notions of intelligence and reliability. Her set of skill is the navigation, to the point where Nami has a quasi magical sence of looking at the sea (thing that is still unexplained btw) and is therefore extremely reliable. Nami is the glue and the "mother" of the crew. She is the one on which we count to advance. This thematic of reliability is also at the center of Nami's character arc and backstory. She is the thief, the one that shouldn't be trusted but she is also the one who had to learn how to rely on other and her friend. Her intelligence as a child saved her village and her reliability is sticking the crew together now.

-----

Usopp is the sniper but also the lyer, we must note those two sets of skills, they render the character really interesting. First Usopp is a Sharp Shooter but also a lyer. Those two skill actually work in tandem. Usopp's thematics are courage and pride. Usopp is a fine storyteller that transforms lies into truth. As such he is the one that transform his own destiny into something amazing. He is the one who always has to surpasses his own fear and own pride to become someone reliable and therefore a pride warrior of the sea. His skills are related to his vision he has of his own dad and should therefore flourish (pun intended) once he overcomes this abandon by facing him.

-----

Sanji is the cook. Sanji's skills are the notions Zeff taught him about life and food. The thematic of Sanji is the notion of Kindness. Even if he is a tough guy sometimes, he is the one that won't hesitate to feed the ennemy. This kindness comes from his mother and is therefore relevant in the way he treats women. Reenforce by the way Zeff educated him. His skill and this thematic really shined in whole cake (reason why I love this arc so much).

-----

Chopper is the doctor. His skills are obviously related to medecine, but his thematic - at least how I see it - is where it gets interesting. Chopper is a hard case but I think, i THINK.. that his thematic revolves around acceptance. Chopper was a monster and was rescused by a false doctor who accepted him as he was. But this did not stop Chopper from seeing himself as a monster, the death of Hiluluk in fact reenforced that sentiment. But Chopper finally accepted himself for Luffy, as a real monster if needed. And that's where I think Chopper's arc is unfinished. I think a realization lies ahead. A realization that he can't heal everything as promissed to his old friend. A sad but also liberating realization as it might permits him to find a real way to give a treatment to someone.. that might need it one day.... ahem.

-----

Robin is the archeologist. Her skills are the capacity of reading poneglyph and decipher history. Her thematic more subtle, is the notion of purpose, of "cap" (yes, french word, no word like that in english). Robin is the one that opens the road in front of the crew and sets the metaphoric destination. Her story is all about finding the truth and the reason behind the eradication of her family. This is her purpose, but also one of the purpose of the story and the strawhats, to understand, to discover.

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Franky is the shipwright. His skills are enginnering and construction. But like Usopp, the thematic of Franky is pride. Pride and selflove. This is a different type of pride than for Usopp, this is the pride to be himself. The story of Franky is all about this concept of self love to the point that Franky turned himself into the thing he dreams. But the biggest pride of Franky is his work, his constructions. That pride was challenged during Franky's flashback, as Franky's weapon are at the center of his mentor's death. But like Tom said, "there is nothing good and nothing bad in building a ship no matter what kind of ship it is. I don't care what kind of ships you build from now on!![...] Men should puff out their chests with pride and Boom over the ships they build" Which is basically another term for "men should be pride of their children no matter what". This is why Franky seeing with pride the Sunny going to the end of the world is so important thematically.

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Brook is the musician. His skills are music and jokes. His thematic are the importance of the joy of life. His promisse to Laboon is just that, a testimony of life, the proof that he is still here. His character is all about life and the joy of living. And this reflects in his music.

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Jinbe is the Helmsman. His skill are the navigation at sea and everything surrounding the guidance of the ship. Jinbe's thematic is very subtle, its all about Sacrifice abnegation and guidance. Jinbe is the one that his willing to sacrifice himself in order to save generations, he is also the one who will help the crew in dire situation who will guide it toward the light and life.

I didn't mention the different moments in the manga, but I'm sure that you can find different moments for each character. They are pretty easy to find.


As you guys can see each characters (I forgot Luffy, but his thematics are pretty obvious) has a particular sets of skills that are made to resonnate with the thematic of their story/character arc/Backstories. And this is why the moments I call "THE SHINING NAKAMA ACTION" are SO IMPORTANT to see if a character is a good candidate to be a strawhat. As this moment usually is the magical interaction between the skillset as a crewmate and the thematic of the character.


This is the main reason I went to battle against you guys since the beginning. As almost NO candidate proposed depicted such deeply thought characterization.

No Yamato
No Bonney
No Vivi
No Vegapunk (at least for now until further development)
No Lilith
No Lucci
No Smoker
No Bellamy

No character.. but one.

This is the prime reason why I started studying that character, I noticed something different, something that I recognized because it was in all the previous strawhat.

The thematics of this character are wonder and innocence. Its all about the act of seeing. Its ALL over the story of this character, in its interactions with other, in the way this character see the world and in the way we sometimes see the character itself. Its so amazing that it uncompass the core quality of One Piece. So of course when you remark that the skills and the design/inspiration of the character is all about the act of seeing and the wonder you start to ... wonder. Someone that can jump high in the sky, that can float in the wind, that has the experience of a lookout.. a child that has the innocence and the knowledge of the world of a newborn.. what better way to challenge that wonder that to make them see the reality of life, the sacrifice of their mentor, the defeat in war.

So you can see my surprise when you put such a character back into the position of the start..

Do you really think that Oda would put so much effort into said character and end up their arc with an half ended story ?

Sorry.. I'm still not convinced that this is the end for Carrot.

I can't accept it as a storyteller. Either there was a BIG change in the plans of Oda (and I'm not talking about a simple editor being a fool) or ... we are about to see Zunisha again real soon.
Again, if you want to claim a word means something other than the dictionary definition, you need proof. Language doesn't change just because some internet rando made up a new definition. I can tell you that "fish" now means all marine life including animals like dolphins and crabs, but that doesn't make it true. You can't just "expand" the definition of a word and then demand that everyone go along with it.

As for the rest, Jesus Christ, how much free time do you think I have?
Doesn't she feel like an arc princess to you here? She had, like Yamato, more important moments with Vegapunk and memory device, she has a strong connection to Vegapunk and Kuma, just like Yamato had a connection with Momo and Ace.
Plus, Bonney is currently driven by revenge, which is not characteristic for SHP as an end goal, and we still don't really know her grand dream (yeah, she wants to save Kuma, but it doesn't sit well with other dreams like drawing a map of the world or becoming WSS).

I mean, I wouldn't mind her, but to me it seems like there's a different role for her in he story.
Bonney feels more like an arc princess like Rebecca. Nah imo the final member (Sabo) will join during Elbaf.
She could very well just be the arc princess. I'm just saying since Saturn is her personal villain and every strawhat has Luffy beat their personal villain, she's the last remaining option. Still very possible that no one joins.
 
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