Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

is this accurate?

yeah, mostly. One thing he’s incorrect on is Judaism. Yes, Judaism is an ethnoreligion. No, you don’t need to be born into it.

Im converting at the moment. It’s just that unlike Christianity and Islam, where conversion is an immediate process, Jewish conversion is more complicated.

I meet with a rabbi every 2 weeks, study the culture, history, and religion. I’ll eventually get circumcised. And then when that’s all done, I’ll go before a Jewish court which will approve my conversion.

After that I could theoretically get citizenship under Israel’s law of return.

However I don’t think I’d be considered fully Jewish within the state of Israel because I’m converting under Reform Judaism, a more liberal denomination of the religion. I believe that might affect my ability to get married within the state of Israel. As well as some other stuff like that.

However were I to get an orthodox conversion, I would be considered fully Jewish under Israeli law.

Regardless, I doubt I’d ever immigrate there. America, with all its flaws, is honestly a better country.

 

[NAMELESS]

yeah, mostly. One thing he’s incorrect on is Judaism. Yes, Judaism is an ethnoreligion. No, you don’t need to be born into it.

Im converting at the moment. It’s just that unlike Christianity and Islam, where conversion is an immediate process, Jewish conversion is more complicated.

I meet with a rabbi every 2 weeks, study the culture, history, and religion. I’ll eventually get circumcised. And then when that’s all done, I’ll go before a Jewish court which will approve my conversion.

After that I could theoretically get citizenship under Israel’s law of return.

However I don’t think I’d be considered fully Jewish within the state of Israel because I’m converting under Reform Judaism, a more liberal denomination of the religion. I believe that might affect my ability to get married within the state of Israel. As well as some other stuff like that.

However were I to get an orthodox conversion, I would be considered fully Jewish under Israeli law.

Regardless, I doubt I’d ever immigrate there. America, with all its flaws, is honestly a better country.

That is very cool of you to explore Judaism like this.

 

[Malakhith]

is this accurate?

It's not that he's wrong but he is a little biased. The biggest mistake is about citizenship and you can check here. The article 5 is the most used. It's actually possible for converted Jews to get citizenship.

The history about how Israel was created was incredible simplified as well as how he explained the way that Israel got to increase its borders since it looks like he told it in a way to make Israel look like the aggressors.

 

[Itachik069]

When Israel did the same nobody didn't say nothing. But when Palestine answered half of the world chose the side of Israel.
U dont care about civilians, u just hate Palestinians.

 

[Tobra]

europe flying israeli flags everywhere while in all years of palestinians getting massacred no form of solidarity was shown, when will people get that the west isn’t a neutral party, they have no sympathy to give for the oppressed non whites

i had sympathy for israeli civilians but it’s draining by the minute, the palestinian death toll has already been equalized and the world’s reaction is “well hamas attacked first” this type of attitude is why hamas gets recruits

 

[Monkey D Theories]

europe flying israeli flags everywhere while in all years of palestinians getting massacred no form of solidarity was shown, when will people get that the west isn’t a neutral party, they have no sympathy to give for the oppressed non whites

This is true, I wouldn't really frame israelis as "white people". I mean yes, a lot of israelis are white ashkenazi jews, but a lot of them also aren't.

There are a lot of middle eastern jews.

 

[Tobra]

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

So I guess the 2 million people living in Gaza are all terrorists and therefore they should die. Funny how you ignore how Israeli authorities have been murdering Palestinians for years now and kicking them out of their homes, where was your indignation then?

Israelis can rape all the children they want and blow up all the schools and hospitals they want and not be terrorists. Palestine can attack a military target in self defense and it's terrorism

 

[Bepo]

Honestly, this could become a full-on war soon.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Palestine can attack a military target in self defense and it's terrorism

I get your point, but that’s not really what they’re doing

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

I get your point, but that’s not really what they’re doing

It's how it was in the past. Now they treat Israel like Israel treats them.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

It's how it was in the past. Now they treat Israel like Israel treats them.

Hamas was always a terrorist organization
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

I think the PLO was a bit better. But Hamas are the guys who do suicide bombings.

 

[Roo]

Israelis can rape all the children they want and blow up all the schools and hospitals they want and not be terrorists. Palestine can attack a military target in self defense and it's terrorism

Hamas literally attacked a rave full of civilians lmao

god I am glad this thread is semi hidden. Literally the most retarded people here

 

[Itachik069]

Israel attacked civilians - nobody gives a shit
Palestine answered - oh no, holy crap, bla bla bla

So ironic.

Lebanon joins too.

For real, rest of the world is like sheeps. Their TV telling them some shit and they do believe whatever they say.

 

[Roo]

Israel attacked civilians - nobody gives a shit

nobody gives a shit? Israel’s funding and violation of human rights are constant topics in western media

If you want to justify the targeted murder and rape of unarmed civilians, including kids just say it.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Israelis can rape all the children they want and blow up all the schools and hospitals they want and not be terrorists. Palestine can attack a military target in self defense and it's terrorism

Both are terrorism

nobody gives a shit? Israel’s funding and violation of human rights are constant topics in western media

If you want to justify the murder of unarmed civilians, including kids just say it.

Barely. Over 80 kids died in Isreal bombing of Gaza since the last 2 days and barely any media is talking about, reduced as mere collateral damage.

 

[Roo]

Both are terrorism


Barely. Over 80 kids died in Isreal bombing of Gaza since the last 2 days and barely any media is talking about, reduced as mere collateral damage.

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/...k-10-09-23/h_19928f39d2934a092b82455817f01cae

it’s being covered by the largest news network in the west.

“reduced as mere collateral damage” it’s shitty to compare tragedies, but obviously a surprise attack where militias invade homes and murder people in cold blood will be more sensationalized that a victim of an air strike

 

[Itachik069]

nobody gives a shit? Israel’s funding and violation of human rights are constant topics in western media

If you want to justify the targeted murder and rape of unarmed civilians, including kids just say it.

Another proof that most western people watch and read brainwashing TV.
U accept the *truth* you want to hear. Its pointless when ur brainwashed.

 

[Roo]

Another proof that most western people watch and read brainwashing TV.
U accept the *truth* you want to hear. Its pointless when ur brainwashed.

Yet here you are in a western forum LMAO

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Another proof that most western people watch and read brainwashing TV.
U accept the *truth* you want to hear. Its pointless when ur brainwashed.

Wrong, while I do believe politicians are skewed in favor Israel (albeit for understandable reasons) western people are some of the most divided when it comes Israel/Palestine conflict, hardly brainwashing.