[FNZ] Role Madness Round 10: Kakegurui

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Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
Yes you did.



That's enough for you to believe him? So you are saying that if I came in with a vote lynch Reborn, I will not unvote you would have believed me? I am not seeing why.



But lynching me because TAC said so is weird.



I understand that. I don't understand why you are buying what he's saying.



I'll ask again. Jester wins if he is lynched, right? FB changed his vote to Cinera last minute on D1 to make the RNG decide who gets lynched. Why would he do that? Why have you failed to notice that, even after I told you?
Wait, I don’t think I knew that...the jester wins if he’s lynched?
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
I'll ask again. Jester wins if he is lynched, right? FB changed his vote to Cinera last minute on D1 to make the RNG decide who gets lynched. Why would he do that? Why have you failed to notice that, even after I told you?
Mafia is flatly trying to have a Town killing role hit me at night inasmuch as that would otherwise backfire.

I'm not shocked to note that Reborn is requesting this specifically.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
I’m still confused; does the jester win if a townie lynches them?
Yes!


The way final has played so far is kind of Jester game play.

A jester act scummy so that others vote him out and he wins.


Now having jester in this game when we have at least two killing roles against us doesn't add up and he could be third party and he is deliberately acting as Jester so that we don't lynch him.


But we can't be sure. That's why I said killing him is best option
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
Then if we’re assuming (for now) that Final is a jester...

Unvote Lynch Final
No it's fine. Lights explanation checks out on Beta. Why would he add a vote to Cinera, and make it a rng decider on D1 if he's jester? He would want to get lynched.

I'm now inclined to believe he's another third party that isn't jester, maybe a sk. He can't be mafia for obvs reasons.

Krog and Queen are the two major sus and I'm leaning towards light being scum as well..

I will remain with Krog for now.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
Yes!


The way final has played so far is kind of Jester game play.

A jester act scummy so that others vote him out and he wins.


Now having jester in this game when we have at least two killing roles against us doesn't add up and he could be third party and he is deliberately acting as Jester so that we don't lynch him.


But we can't be sure. That's why I said killing him is best option
Think I still agree with this...mostly unvoted to be completely safe. I’m gonna have to go offline for a little while, I’ll chime back in when I’ve caught up.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
Let's assume tac is scum. But the way he voted you imply that he is sure you are scum. You say you are townie. But why tac (scum as per you) would risk exposing himself just to Lynch a townie. Because if you turn out to be townie then tac is dead next phase for sure.

So by voting you like that he put himself at stake and I don't see him doing that until he is confirmed that you are scum.
OK. I understand where you are coming from. But take a look at this Reborn. We started with 15 players. We lost 5 townies so far (Fuji, Nat, Gianfi, Sera, NW). If you lynch me it will be 6. How many more townies do you think are left? We know mafia lost one member. So we have 9 players left. If you lynch me it will be 8 players left, right? How many townies do you think will be among those 8 players, after having lost 6 townies already? Plus there's also the night where the mafia and the independent party can kill off people. I'll need your thoughts on how many players and parties can there be left before making predictions.


Btw why you repeatedly mentioning final is not jester? What you think he is then?
Because him being the jester and stopping his lynch is contradictory. There's no reason for him to do so if he wins by being lynched. I am not sure what he is, but I think he is not the jester.


I am sorry for the delayed response. I had to ask the host a question. I'll leave you with this as well. There's a reason why I am not too worried about the current situation. You're smart enough to figure why.


@Jew D. Boy From what I understood the Jester wants to be lynched and wins that way.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
OK. I understand where you are coming from. But take a look at this Reborn. We started with 15 players. We lost 5 townies so far (Fuji, Nat, Gianfi, Sera, NW). If you lynch me it will be 6. How many more townies do you think are left? We know mafia lost one member. So we have 9 players left. If you lynch me it will be 8 players left, right? How many townies do you think will be among those 8 players, after having lost 6 townies already? Plus there's also the night where the mafia and the independent party can kill off people. I'll need your thoughts on how many players and parties can there be left before making predictions.



Because him being the jester and stopping his lynch is contradictory. There's no reason for him to do so if he wins by being lynched. I am not sure what he is, but I think he is not the jester.


I am sorry for the delayed response. I had to ask the host a question. I'll leave you with this as well. There's a reason why I am not too worried about the current situation. You're smart enough to figure why.


@Jew D. Boy From what I understood the Jester wants to be lynched and wins that way.
I am smart enough to understand that by consitently saying that final isn't jester you are indirectly implying that "we are free to Lynch him as him being Jester is what stopping us" Right?


And, you have said nothing to counter tac. You have said nothing to defend yourself except some calculations which isn't any defense because any one can pull that off.


The way tac is pushing your case hard shows that he definitely has something on you.


Until I have strong evidence or argument that can convince me that you are town I am not unvoting you.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
Jesus himself could descend from heaven to defend Light, and I’d still lynch Light. Just after lynching Jesus.
I must say bravo. I would have never thought you'd be able to trick them so easily.



I am asking the rest of you to please reconsider this. If I were scum of any sort I'd kill TAC D1. Why would I kill Nat who shared my thoughts and didn't find me sus or Fuji who didn't say anything? There would be no reason for me to let TAC live.


I am smart enough to understand that by consitently saying that final isn't jester you are indirectly implying that "we are free to Lynch him as him being Jester is what stopping us" Right?
That wasn't what I meant, but I guess that's true as well.


The way tac is pushing your case hard shows that he definitely has something on you.
But he cannot have anything on me Reborn. Think about why I am saying this, and what happened.


And, you have said nothing to counter tac. You have said nothing to defend yourself except some calculations which isn't any defense because any one can pull that off.
How do I defend myself when the only thing that happened was him saying I vote him and I am not unvoting?


I'll have to log off for now. I'll be back shortly.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
What it transpires from TAC's doggedness is that he found out Light to be a killing role.

I personally believe that Light is the SK.

If my estimations about Reborn and krog are correct, they constitute the remaining mafia components instead.
 
@krogothwolf 's vote speaks rotten in that it came only afterwards Reborn had gotten tied.

My read over Reborn is even stronger as of now, since we have this new thread of connection popped.

Lynching him will provide us sensible info about krog.

Vote Lynch Reborn
Because I thought and feel Sera was more scummy then Reborn so why let Reborn get lynched.

Honest I don't like that there are 3 kills every night, that is insanely bloody.

We've gotten 1 mafia lynched
1 town lynched
1 town modkilled
3 towns killed at night.

There is most def 2 different killing roles as I don't think Mafia would have 2 kills.
 
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