Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1095 Spoilers Discussion

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@Cinera is right. I don't see how Saturn can't be the true antagonist of this arc at this point.

Is Luffy vs. Kizaru really gonna continue in the background while Saturn just mogs Vegapunk and the Straw Hats? It just doesn't make sense.

Saturn might even try to kill Kizaru for failing his mission.
Kizaru doesn't even want to be there as well it makes for a weak final battle for the MC.
I hope it's Saturn.
 

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The only one who can beat me is me
Kizaru literally can't move after a punch, stop trying to hide stuff lmao
Yea hence I said it was a stalemate you goof. Luffy is unable to move, he could barely keep up with Kizaru he tried G4 and it didn't work so he had to overuse G5 just to stalemate an unfocused Kizaru.

Oda drew them side by side like that for a reason.

Y'all are wasting my time with this non topic, I could be doing something more productive. Really need to log off til chapter drops, Kizaru has made y'all lose your minds. You're just picking at crumbs at this point.
 
It's alright man.
I imagine it was hard for Kidd fans when he got one shot, but hey, they recovered.
I'm sure you'll be fine after a while.
Everyone loses, it's nothing to cry about, it's just natural, it's humbling.
It makes you GROW, it makes you STRONGER.
When you lose you don't try to cope with it, you don't try to stay a loser, you just gotta get up and keep going.
It may seem hard now but trust me, y'all will be alright, even with Oda absolutely crushing your agenda over the past year.
You actually think this is gonna be a Kidd moment for admiral fans?

:ihaha:

Prepare to be massively dissapointed
 
Ya'll need to stop quoting me accusing me of Admiral>Yonko agenda when thats not even at all what Im arguing about nor the point of the conversation.

I have been, quite literally saying for over a year now that villains after Kaido will pose other types of threats to Luffy. Ill repeat myself again:

- Kaido is tanky and super strong. It took 15 people to attack him and Luffy many chapters alone to win

- Kizaru is clearly very fast and not very durable. What Kaido tanked in G4 Snakeman, Kizaru was able to dodge easily. However he cant take G5 moves as well. Its very obvious however that he's not "done", he's conscious and recovering, just like Luffy. This purely fucking objective fact, he is not KOed and nobody (including VAs) even react to him being hit save for Saturn saying he's being unusually slow.

- Akainu may have the highest AP in the series. Who knows. Aint tanky like Kaido though

- Blackbeard likely has 3 broken DFs, one of which can nullify your DF powers. Bye bye Gear 5 at key points.

- Shanks, if fought, potentially has the highest potential for Conquerors Haki out of the above with imbuement.

- Imu is probably the FV so it doesnt matter.


Does nobody understand that I am approaching this with basically zero agenda and instead trying to argue that what benefits the series is good portrayal of ever upper level character in the series?

A true fan of the series shouldnt actually want Kizaru to job, they should want a good fucking fight regardless. I said this about Kaido. Ill say it again for Akainu, Blackbeard, Shanks and Imu: you do not want the MC to wipe the floor with top tier characters. He needs to struggle even as a Yonko.
Nobody WANTS Kizaru to job, it's that they NEED him to job, it's all for the agenda.
Personally I always thought Luffy > Kizaru so I didn't care if he jobbed or not, I just believed he'd lose eventually.
But honestly none of this would be happening if the Admiral wankers weren't so insufferable, I mean if you think Admirals > Yonko that's great but shoving it in people's faces nearly every time you log on is just fucking annoying and I'm actually glad Kizaru is temporarily paralyzed from this attack.
 
Yeah, but I'll remind you that some of these villains still got wrecked.

For example, Caesar was practically one shot once Luffy got remotely serious.
True but this doesnt change the fact that they are arc villains who Luffy have to defeat before he leaves.
hmmm, so who's going to take him out? After this chapter I'm actually convinced he will get defeated.
Ancient Robot will stall him before BB pirates kills him. I think Egghead incident will be one of the Goroseis death.
 
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