[FNZ] Role Madness Hell's Paradise Mafia #1 [Game Ended - Mafia + Survivor Win]

[Ratchet]

Ehhhhh

Yes, that"s always something you can argue, but historically every time I've entertained the idea of Aurelian having a breakout game, the duck turns out to be just a duck. I think he kind of just lacks the capacity or interest to change things up to that degree.

Frankly the best way to read Aurelian isn't how logically rigid his takes are

Yeah given he claims to scum read you this isn't doing anything for me either.

 

[Indigo]

Unvote

for now

 

[Ratchet]

@Ekkologix how sold are you on the idea that Ratchet's intro and latest posts feel like their artificial and he's aligned with Ultra?

Why does he tie me with Ultra here, instead of Flower?

Fang/Ultra scum team... hmmm.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

@Ekkologix have you noticed a certain pattern in reads from Ultra, Flower, and Ratchet regarding a lack of scum ones while choked full of "vary town reads" going on repeatedly with these three?

@ORCA
@Polar Bear

You must've as well.

i havent read much content from ratchet yet im outside rn

the other 2 yes

 

[Orwellian]

*snip*

This isn't a debate. She has more votes then Ultra at the time and she's gained nothing but another vote since then, you are not derailing the pressure and push with her wagon.

 

[Ultra]

Aurelian can replicate his attitude a bit when he's pressed but he has a hard time matching his volume output and aggression as town overall, I'd say he's more likely town than not

 

[Orwellian]

Why does he tie me with Ultra here, instead of Flower?

Fang/Ultra scum team... hmmm.

Tinfoil harder please.

 

[Michelle]

What country?

Romania, Eastern Europe

Because Flower's wagon is currently more viable then Ultra's.

@CakeWalker
@Naomi
@MangoSenpai
@Michelle

Vote Flower please.

No

 

[CakeWalker]

UNVOTE

I can't actually say why, without breaking a rule, but actually think its impossible for Flower's slot to be mafia. Could still be indie though

 

[Orwellian]

Aurelian can replicate his attitude a bit when he's pressed but he has a hard time matching his volume output and aggression as town overall, I'd say he's more likely town than not

This is cute but I was going to actually make a post tagging you asking why you've come off entirely lethargic, tired, and limp wristed these last few hours playing for Flower's defense. Have you given up?

 

[Ratchet]

This isn't a debate. She has more votes then Ultra at the time and she's gained nothing but another vote since then, you are not derailing the pressure and push with her wagon.

She has more votes because you made her have more votes - it was entirely within your power to have Ultra have more votes over her. Thus, your stated reasoning and thought patterns make no sense - you have Ultra as a higher scum read, but feel the need to compromise, while going out of your way to ensure you create the circumstances under which you need to compromise. It's absolute nonsense.

 

[Ultra]

Why does he tie me with Ultra here, instead of Flower?

Fang/Ultra scum team... hmmm.

Can you tell me what your reads on Orca/Polar/Pein are thanks

 

[Orwellian]

She has more votes

Correct.
Therefore she is more viable. And I can remove Ultra in the next day phase if Flower flips as non-town or scum. Nothing else is defensible in your position to argue against this, I'm not caring what mental gymnastics you try to force to argue against this.

 

[CakeWalker]

VOTE: SEATONNES

return to previous standing

 

[Orwellian]

UNVOTE

I can't actually say why, without breaking a rule, but actually think its impossible for Flower's slot to be mafia. Could still be indie though

Bad

Romania, Eastern Europe

No

Very bad

 

[Ratchet]

She has more votes because you made her have more votes - it was entirely within your power to have Ultra have more votes over her. Thus, your stated reasoning and thought patterns make no sense - you have Ultra as a higher scum read, but feel the need to compromise, while going out of your way to ensure you create the circumstances under which you need to compromise. It's absolute nonsense.

And frankly if this is coming from a town player then I consider it to be sabotage. I actually think Ultra has a very good chance of being scum this game, so positionally Fang's play looks scum motivated (tying players to his scum mate, and then trying to get their flips first).

 

[Orwellian]

VOTE: SEATONNES

return to previous standing

Why waste a vote on someone who isn't going to get lynched

 

[Michelle]

@Ekkologix have you noticed a certain pattern in reads from Ultra, Flower, and Ratchet regarding a lack of scum ones while choked full of "vary town reads" going on repeatedly with these three?

@ORCA
@Polar Bear

You must've as well.

Idk why you're tagging Ekko, he also posted a lot of town reads and just one scum read and a scum lean (kind of)

 

[CakeWalker]

Bad

Below is the reason.

@Flower will replace @MUUGEN
Please do not discuss replacements.
Flower may post.
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[Orwellian]

And frankly if this is coming from a town player then I consider it to be sabotage. I actually think Ultra has a very good chance of being scum this game, so positionally Fang's play looks scum motivated (tying players to his scum mate, and then trying to get their flips first).

Pure nonsense but if this entertains your attempt at shading me by tying me to a player who I have locked as most likely scum in a weird attempt to bus them, its even more tinfoiling.