Chapter Discussion Did Luffy draw even a single drop of blood from Kizaru?
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Honest question.
Considering Kizaru's endurance (he's obviously not used to get physically hit), would he have survived a 'nothing happened' amount of damage ?
(note, it's damage I am asking. Not the force of an attack that hits an individual. It's the after effects. The broken bones, the hits, bruises, cuts, exhaustion, etc.)
Considering Kizaru's endurance (he's obviously not used to get physically hit), would he have survived a 'nothing happened' amount of damage ?
(note, it's damage I am asking. Not the force of an attack that hits an individual. It's the after effects. The broken bones, the hits, bruises, cuts, exhaustion, etc.)
Honest question.
Considering Kizaru's endurance (he's obviously not used to get physically hit), would he have survived a 'nothing happened' amount of damage ?
Considering Kizaru's endurance (he's obviously not used to get physically hit), would he have survived a 'nothing happened' amount of damage ?
Starting to think Kizaru's like Cracker, to where he's so fast that he just pretty much never gets hits, same with Cracker being inside his biscuit so he never gets hit and thus has horrendous endurance.
Honest question.
Considering Kizaru's endurance (he's obviously not used to get physically hit), would he have survived a 'nothing happened' amount of damage ?
(note, it's damage I am asking. Not the force of an attack that hits an individual. It's the after effects. The broken bones, the hits, bruises, cuts, exhaustion, etc.)
Considering Kizaru's endurance (he's obviously not used to get physically hit), would he have survived a 'nothing happened' amount of damage ?
(note, it's damage I am asking. Not the force of an attack that hits an individual. It's the after effects. The broken bones, the hits, bruises, cuts, exhaustion, etc.)
Show me canon panels that much more than a few seconds have passed
Without G5 we have no reason to believ Luffy gets Kizaru to that point. So your answer is nothin
No it’s that Kizaru has already said that he might not like killing Sentomaru and VegaPunk. But he’ll do it cause it’s his assigned mission, man’s legit said “I’m jus a cog in tha machine” so he’s jus following orders. Regardless of how much he disagrees with em
Add in how Saturn literally told em to ignore Sentomaru and Kizaru said no. Why wouldn’t he kill em then? He could’ve taken tha coo out and left Sentomaru alone
Without G5 we have no reason to believ Luffy gets Kizaru to that point. So your answer is nothin
No it’s that Kizaru has already said that he might not like killing Sentomaru and VegaPunk. But he’ll do it cause it’s his assigned mission, man’s legit said “I’m jus a cog in tha machine” so he’s jus following orders. Regardless of how much he disagrees with em
Add in how Saturn literally told em to ignore Sentomaru and Kizaru said no. Why wouldn’t he kill em then? He could’ve taken tha coo out and left Sentomaru alone
Are you a cog in the old admiral agenda machine? Kizaru's future is betraying Saturn and joining Luffy. His only way out.
What do you expect Luffy to get executed here? The MC? You're being silly.
Luffy wins. Takes VegaPunk with him since he has to protect him from Imu and Kizaru if he's not dead then he has nowhere else to go.
He doesn't want to kill his friends. Doing so would represent lack of free will. Luffy is liberating people, that's one of the main themes of the manga. Kizaru thinking independently from his Boss orders only follows in line with the manga.
He might die either way. Saturn can kill him too.
What do you expect Luffy to get executed here? The MC? You're being silly.
Luffy wins. Takes VegaPunk with him since he has to protect him from Imu and Kizaru if he's not dead then he has nowhere else to go.
He doesn't want to kill his friends. Doing so would represent lack of free will. Luffy is liberating people, that's one of the main themes of the manga. Kizaru thinking independently from his Boss orders only follows in line with the manga.
He might die either way. Saturn can kill him too.
Completely broke since 1095 is out
Don't worry bruh Luffy looks bad at the beginning of every arc, no need to overcompensate with this sad cope, he'll eventually look better like he magically manages to by the end of every arc. Don't let the slander get to ya
Idek why Luffy fans be stressin so much. Oda will always pull through for that goof.
Exactly. I'm not sure why some folks keep trying to ignore this likely possibility in order to push for a Round 2 between Luffy and Kizaru. A rematch might happen, sure, but IMO there's too many narrative flags going off right now that Luffy and Kizaru will both be fighting Saturn soon enough.
On the one hand, you have all of these notable indicators that Kizaru is morally conflicted with his current mission and that he effectively sees himself as a slave to the World Government. On the other hand, you have the copious amount of different characters referring to Sun God Nika and how he liberates the oppressed while laughing.
Either Kizaru pulls a heel turn and aids Luffy in fighting Saturn or Oda surprises us and opts to take Kizaru down a far bleaker and nihilistic path with him doubling down on his 'enslavement' as an unquestioning admiral for the World Government. IMO this setup is way more intriguing than debating whether or not an admiral is as strong as a yonko.
True, but I do think it's fair to say that Luffy did himself no favors by waiting until the last possible second to actually one tap an admiral. Luffy effectively won a pyrrhic victory here IMO, given that he had the chance to properly knock out Kizaru two chapters ago when he was holding him in the palm of his hands and instead made the mistake of trying to throw away the man who can fly by turning into beams of light.
On the one hand, you have all of these notable indicators that Kizaru is morally conflicted with his current mission and that he effectively sees himself as a slave to the World Government. On the other hand, you have the copious amount of different characters referring to Sun God Nika and how he liberates the oppressed while laughing.
Either Kizaru pulls a heel turn and aids Luffy in fighting Saturn or Oda surprises us and opts to take Kizaru down a far bleaker and nihilistic path with him doubling down on his 'enslavement' as an unquestioning admiral for the World Government. IMO this setup is way more intriguing than debating whether or not an admiral is as strong as a yonko.
True, but I do think it's fair to say that Luffy did himself no favors by waiting until the last possible second to actually one tap an admiral. Luffy effectively won a pyrrhic victory here IMO, given that he had the chance to properly knock out Kizaru two chapters ago when he was holding him in the palm of his hands and instead made the mistake of trying to throw away the man who can fly by turning into beams of light.
Luffy held back during most of the fight his strongest (and already well-established and known to us) powerset, yet still one-tapped an admiral and the repercussions where the same that he got from Lucci.
Luffy didn't even take damage from Kizaru other than a scratch and that dealt by going through the barrier twice early in the fight, and is simply experiencing the repercussions of his own power.
Luffy is fine, and I'm utterly disappointed by this being the first time we see Kizaru properly in action. I expected a lot better.
Luffy didn't even take damage from Kizaru other than a scratch and that dealt by going through the barrier twice early in the fight, and is simply experiencing the repercussions of his own power.
Luffy is fine, and I'm utterly disappointed by this being the first time we see Kizaru properly in action. I expected a lot better.