Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

It depends on your cultural ties, family ties, how you identify etc....
I do think those Muricans who walk around suddenly identifying with the 5% minority DNA they just found out about in their DNA test result to be cringe af tho.

By those standards I'm Colombian-American.

 

[Okamakama]

Are you dictating other people's identity now?🤡🤡🤡


It depends on your cultural ties, family ties, how you identify etc....
I do think those Muricans who walk around suddenly identifying with the 5% minority DNA they just found out about in their DNA test result to be cringe af tho.

Yeah, I've ascended to doing that, Maynard.

No. Seriously, it's people's obsession with minority identities to attain some sort of socio-political clout. I feel like it's a hyper-focus on individualism. I think it's divisive. People can identify how they want, but I find it inane.

"I'm Cherokee, btw."

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Honestly, why does that matter? You were born in America. You're American. What is it with Americans being like: "I'm not American, I'm African/Jewish/Irish/Italian American."

I was not born in America.

 

[Okamakama]

I was not born in America.

My bad. Then ultimately, it depends on how you culturally identify at this point. I think first generation immigrants can completely integrate, but it requires synergistic values. I wouldn't look at your blood as proof of your national identity.

 

[Roo]

The Levant is probably the most disputed piece of land throughout western history. Many groups of people have come and go. Which is why I said earlier you’d go crazy trying to define who’s indigenous to the land.

Even the Palestinian Muslim population had a huge spike in population.

 

[Okamakama]

The Levant is probably the most disputed piece of land throughout western history. Many groups of people have come and go. Which is why I said earlier you’d go crazy trying to define who’s indigenous to the land.

Even the Palestinian Muslim population had a huge spike in population.

Could that not have been due to population growth post-WW1?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Hamas = Iran = Russia
Israel is Ukraine in this case (from a US standpoint)

Murica political mental gymnastics will never make sense anyway

I think it’s pretty safe to assume the people in Gaza are likely radicalized against Israel. But if they’re mostly children they can be as easily de radicalized.

Not sure about this part

 

[Okamakama]

Murica political mental gymnastics will never make sense anyway
Not sure about this part

It was never about morality in the first place, at least, on a humanitarian level.

America didn't want the old enemy, Russia, to advance.
American does not want it's ally in the Middle-East to be destroyed.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Murica political mental gymnastics will never make sense anyway

It does make sense. It's whatever is more profitable or whatever benefits us the most from a geopolitical standpoint.

 

[Roo]

Could that not have been due to population growth post-WW1?

I think most agree it was a combination of immigration + natural growth. The argument lies on how much the immigration took part in it

 

[Okamakama]

It does make sense. It's whatever is more profitable or whatever benefits us the most from a geopolitical standpoint.

It makes a lot of sense. It's not about what is morally right and never was.
That does not mean they are not supporting what is morally right, or morally wrong. I am simply saying that didn't factor into their decision making.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It does make sense. It's whatever is more profitable or whatever benefits us the most from a geopolitical standpoint.

Replace ''us'' with ''our elites''.
Y'all won't see the broader population benefitting from anything.

 

[Roo]

Murica political mental gymnastics will never make sense anyway
Not sure about this part

Kids are highly impressionable

 

[Okamakama]

Replace ''us'' with ''our elites''.
Y'all won't see the broader population benefitting from anything.

Edging closer to the 4chan argument of powerful Zionists being in control of the entire United States....

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Kids are highly impressionable

You'd have a hard time convincing kids that the same country that bombed their home and slaughtered their parents in front of their eyes somehow are the good guys now.

Edging closer to the 4chan argument of powerful Zionists being in control of the entire United States....

What are you talking about?

 

[Okamakama]

What are you talking about?

Your words are basically... about "elites" (who in 4chan's minds are Jews) making decisions that don't benefit the population and instead themselves (and thus, their Zionist plans, in 4chan's opinion). Since right now the Elites, in your words, believe protecting Israel = Good, there is a noticeable similarity in the narrative, even if that was not your intent.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Your words are basically... about "elites" (who in 4chan's minds are Jews) making decisions that don't benefit the population and instead themselves (and thus, their Zionist plans, in 4chan's opinion). Since right now the Elites, in your words, believe protecting Israel = Good, there is a noticeable similarity in the narrative, even if that was not your intent.

Since when do US citizens benefit from the senseless wars their government instigate!?
You be throwing around lots of accusations here for the past couple hours when it's you who holds openly islamophobic views

 

[Roo]

Don’t worry guys, this land belongs to me. I will end this war

 

[Okamakama]

Since when do US citizens benefit from the senseless wars their government instigate!?
You be throwing around lots of accusations here for the past couple hours when it's you who hold openly islamophobic views

They don't. I was saying that. I'm just saying your arguments are similar. I think the war is senseless. I also don't hold Islamophobic views. I believe there are certain cultures that will not get along, but that does not mean I think it's entirely one side's fault. Jumping to conclusions is a speciality of yours, Maynard.

Ultimately, this war will only benefit elites, like all wars. It's the poor who pay the price of war.
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Don’t worry guys, this land belongs to me. I will end this war

Based indigenous individual.

I'm basically the ruler of India with my 12.5% Indian heritage \o/

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

They don't. I was saying that. I'm just saying your arguments are similar. I think the war is senseless. I also don't hold Islamophobic views. I believe there are certain cultures that will not get along, but that does not mean I think it's entirely one side's fault. Jumping to conclusions is a speciality of yours, Maynard.

Don't weasel your way out of this, you think your underhanded Nazi accusations like 'blood and soil' , '4chan argument' etc went unnoticed? And add as much flowery pseudo intellectual language as you want, you're not convincing anybody here