Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

Does the fact that it was on Ali Dawah video makes the clip fake?

No, but ali dawah is a joke and a nutjob

 

[Score]

No, but ali dawah is a joke and a nutjob

Ali Dawah is a kind hearted guy

 

[NikaInParis]

Ali Dawah is a kind hearted guy

Tbf, him and Hijab more often than not come off as very confrontational and agressive in their videos (not talking about debates btw, juts normal talking-to-the-camera videos)

Personally I'm not a fan of that unless you are debating a person that has such characteristics of speech and nothing but the same medicine comes through to them.

 

[AL sama]

The goal is not to attack Benzema, the goal is to attack muslim and pushes the overton windows to the far right where Muslim are seen as potential terrorists.

Scientists: Sh*t, we missed something, we need to create more precise and more inclusive definitions in our langage system. Let's propose some stuff !

Woke: Sh*t, scientist are saying that we should be more precise and inclusive in our definitions, lets help them !

Some states: Sh*t, scientist and a majority of experts are agreeing that we should be more inclusive, let's see what we can do !

Rightist: Sh*t, look at all that change, they are not following proper science, let's get angry !

Rightist: Sh*t, look at our voter, they are angry, we can't accept woke BS, let's stop them !

Minorities: Sh*t, we are being targeted, we can't ac cept that, let's manifest !

Media: Sh*t, we have a scoop, let's listen to what rightist have to say !

Rightist: Sh*t, we need to legitimize our position against Woke BS, let's call the scientist for help !

Scientist: We need to be more precise and inclusive in our definitions.

Rightist: Sh*t.

 

[Logiko]

Can you tell me where I'm wrong ?

For the first quote. Liberals in France in the gov (especially Darmanin who is conservative) are directly targetting Muslim celebrities in order to create a system of fear and push the overton windows to the far right. This is a fact dude. As a muslim you should be aware of that and be angered by that.

For the second this is exactly what happens in real life.

Woke as you call them are in fact only following scientist (each and every single I follow in the militant community are linked to scientist beliefs or scientist people). Meaning that when a rightist tries to call for the help of scientist they are actually dumbfonded by their replies that is aligning with the "woke". Scientist are the source of our knowledge. Biology, archeology, sociology, anthropology, those are the things we base our knowledge on (patriarchy/feminism/Gender studies etc).

Those are facts mate. There are no logical reason for your reaction.

 

[Mathias]

Sometimes I wonder how the great socialists of the past would react to their modern counterparts.

Like who exactly would be considered great socialists of the past for you ? Jean Jaurès and François Mitterand in France for instance ? Maybe Léon Blum

 

[Score]

Can you tell me where I'm wrong ?

For the first quote. Liberals in France in the gov (especially Darmanin who is conservative) are directly targetting Muslim celebrities in order to create a system of fear and push the overton windows to the far right. This is a fact dude. As a muslim you should be aware of that and be angered by that.

For the second this is exactly what happens in real life.

Woke as you call them are in fact only following scientist (each and every single I follow in the militant community are linked to scientist beliefs or scientist people). Meaning that when a rightist try to call for the help of scientist they are actually dumbfonded by their replies that is aligning with the "woke". Scientist are the source of our knowledge. Biology, archeology, sociology, anthropology, those are the things we base our knowledge on (patriarchy/feminism/Gender studies etc).

Those are facts mate. There are no logical reason for your reaction.

Are you French? Muslim repression from the govt has steadily accumulated over the years, especially since the niqab ban years ago. I wish them the best

 

[Logiko]

Are you French? Muslim repression from the govt has steadily accumulated over the years, especially since the niqab ban years ago. I wish them the best

Yes. The overton windows is starting to get dangerously close to the far right and Muslims are in danger.

 

[AL sama]

For the first quote. Liberals in France in the gov (especially Darmanin who is conservative) are directly targetting Muslim celebrities in order to create a system of fear and push the overton windows to the far right. This is a fact dude. As a muslim you should be aware of that and be angered by that.

I misunderstood your first post

For the second this is exactly what happens in real life.

Woke as you call them are in fact only following scientist (each and every single I follow in the militant community are linked to scientist beliefs or scientist people). Meaning that when a rightist tries to call for the help of scientist they are actually dumbfonded by their replies that is aligning with the "woke". Scientist are the source of our knowledge. Biology, archeology, sociology, anthropology, those are the things we base our knowledge on (patriarchy/feminism/Gender studies etc).

Those are facts mate. There are no logical reason for your reaction.

as for your second

 

[Logiko]

I misunderstood your first post

I changed my wording, it was indeed weird.

As for the second, you just have to took feminism as an example.

Sociologist (scientists) make studies about patriarchy and the oppression of women... Wokes like me share the studies and conclusion.. the right gets angry, they call for the help of scientist and they don't understand that they align with woke.

i've seen multiple example of that on this forum of people calling scientist (mainly sociologist) "woke" or "fake scientist". It would be funny if in the middle of that there wasn't any oppressed people like Women, trans or religious minorities like muslims that gets shot in the cross fire.

 

[Logiko]

What? I'm saying the jews did. King David bombing and other things.

About the mythological storytelling of Hebrews. Do you know that movie that depict the deliverance of them by moses, the Prince of egypt ?

Well.. Fun fact..

"God" is actually committing a war crime here:

 

[Roo]

Does Israel also need a de-radicalisation programme, especially when they hold these sentiments while illegally occupying their victims?

mmm I literally said yes earlier? Difference between the two is there's actual documentation on the Gaza radicalization. From what I've look the Israeli school system doesn't have that issue. Few instances of kids saying wild shit isn't enough for me to call it a problem

 

[Toby D. Dog]

it's not antisemitism, just anti-zionism

I love how you pretend you're any better than this.

 

[RayanOO]

I love how you pretend you're any better than this.

That comment wasn’t acceptable by any means

 

[Toby D. Dog]

That comment wasn’t acceptable by any means

How did I even imply it was remotely acceptable? Cause I didn't. All I'm saying is he advocates for genocide in here with less harsh words.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I am
Israel will not take Gaza, nobody wants it.
US is pushing for a solution for this after, it's gonna be under Palestinian authority or some US/UN/Egypt thing. Israel won't occupy the area

You still justify the murder of children. You're as much of a monster as that other guy.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

100 billion given to white supremacists, so they can murder babies. But you can't forgive student debts. Anything to make a buck I guess. Genocide Joe ain't winning another election

 

[Roo]

100 billion given to white supremacists, so they can murder babies. But you can't forgive student debts. Anything to make a buck I guess. Genocide Joe ain't winning another election

That's not how aid works.

When it says "x billion given in aid" it's mostly equipment or items valued at that amount. How exactly do you think the student debt will be forgiven with that aid money? You will give tanks to college graduates or something?

edit: also, ironically some of the aid given can be in the form of loans lmao

 

[Fn Lucci]

Republicans should be in a shitty spot next year except that Democrats are holding onto Joe and he's nobody's favorite

 

[Fn Lucci]

That's not how aid works.

When it says "x billion given in aid" it's mostly equipment or items valued at that amount. How exactly do you think the student debt will be forgiven with that aid money? You will give tanks to college graduates or something?

edit: also, ironically some of the aid given can be in the form of loans lmao

For all I fuckin paid maybe they should. Hell yeah actually