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Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Toby D. Dog said:
So you're not familiar with the Moorish invasion of the 800s? Yes the Spanish did expel the moors, but they arrived there after invading the whole peninsula in the first place (not that it was morally justified to expel them). As for the sephardic jews, they were closely related to the Ashkenazi, a lot of them did end up in north africa and the american colonies, hence why most latin americans can claim sephardic ancestry.
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Roo said:

This is the reason for the longest war in history
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I know the muslims conquered spain

but I don't think they expelled the natives from the land like later colonial movements did
 
Fn Lucci

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Roo said:
What someone reps is important when pointing out cognitive dissonance. You can’t go around shitting on the west for “colonialism” when your entire society is based on basically the same shit.
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Society, but not religion. And in many cases society in the past tense. At this point in history for all the assholes we've uncovered, you just have to take societies at their modern value
 
NAMELESS

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Sekai Saikyō Mihawk said:
IDF using their civilians has human shields...

Whatever the IDF/Zionists accuses the palestinians/anyone else off, 99.99% chance its actually them thats doing it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716427916618105288

It's not gonna be long before we start seeing evidence of the police/IDF that killed the festival goers. Sick fucks
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That is reaching now.Plenty of survivals,some were tourists.They would have spilled the beans by this point.
 
Red Night

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NAMELESS said:
They didn't they were only forced to pay taxes if they did not convert to Islam.
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For Jews and Christians I think. Other minorities were less protected. Jews and Christians are the people of the Book. From Islam's vision, they're more similar to heretics than to heatens. Today's Islam is more harsh and less open than Islam during it's Golden Age. Maybe the result of being colonized and invaded by Western powers.
 
Fn Lucci

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Red Night said:
For Jews and Christians I think. Other minorities were less protected. Jews and Christians are the people of the Book. From Islam's vision, they're more similar to heretics than to heatens. Today's Islam is more harsh and less open than Islam during it's Golden Age. Maybe the result of being colonized and invaded by Western powers.
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Islam doesn't change, that's its point. Times, people, and regions change.

So in North America you have medical professionals, realtors, and store owners being lumped in with these warlords of no relation.
 
NikaInParis

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Red Night said:
For Jews and Christians I think. Other minorities were less protected. Jews and Christians are the people of the Book. From Islam's vision, they're more similar to heretics than to heatens. Today's Islam is more harsh and less open than Islam during it's Golden Age. Maybe the result of being colonized and invaded by Western powers.
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Islam is the same as it was
However, the current countries with a majority Muslim population are more concerned with National identity than with religious identity - something adopted due to Western colonialism
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Can't believe Hamas forced him to out himself as a clown:crazwhat:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/...apons-manual-biography-bomber?utm_source=Klix
 
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Fn Lucci

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NikaInParis said:
Islam is the same as it was
However, the current countries with a majority Muslim population are more concerned with National identity than with religious identity - something adopted due to Western colonialism

Can't believe Hamas forced him to out himself as a clown:crazwhat:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/...apons-manual-biography-bomber?utm_source=Klix
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Roo said:
Colonialism is largely a thing of the past for the west, yet here we are throwing it around and calling the west a “filthy society” for it
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Living in Florida, I cannot agree or disagree tbf
 
NAMELESS

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Le Fishe D. Tomdou said:
Damn, this thread full with retards smh
Good thing it's well hidden.
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Is your avi even legal?lmfao
yeah ,man.some people here never learn.They keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again.I think its for the best that this thread dies.
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Okamakama said:
It's subversive commentary. They want people to demonize the West. Let's ignore other conquerors! We only care about it when the West did it.
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I got thrashed here for saying that the crusades were a defensive war.
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Roo said:
Colonialism is largely a thing of the past for the west, yet here we are throwing it around and calling the west a “filthy society” for it
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Most of the western nations were never colonizers to begin with.Only a handful of them were.
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Monkey D Theories said:
Don't know much about Iberian history, but from my understanding, it was the spanish that did the displacing.

They expelled all of the jews and muslims from the land. That's why there were so many jews in North Africa. All the ones that got expelled from Spain went there.

However eventually there was a rise in antisemitism due to the Arab Israeli conflict and jews in muslim countries got kicked out in the mid 20th century. That's why Israel is like 50% mizrahi, despite the original zionists being ashkenazi jews.
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Many of them went to Portugal too.
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Roo said:

This is the reason for the longest war in history
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Pretty much all of Portugal got conquered.
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Red Night said:
Anyone one here interested in making a left-wing patriotic militia?
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In France
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ask c4n
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JohnnyBme said:
WW2:
The Second World War resulted in an estimated 60 million displaced. That included roughly 12 million Germans, many of whom were forced to leave their homeland when large chunks of Germany's eastern borders were annexed to Poland. Many ethnic Germans were also expelled or chose to leave their homes in Eastern Europe.

Syria:
The continuing conflict and Islamic State offensive forced 1.5 million people to flee abroad in 2014, mainly to neighboring countries. The number of Syrian refugees now exceeds 4 million and another 7.6 million are internally displaced.

Korean war:
Estimates of the numbers of people displaced range widely, with anywhere from 1 million to more than 5 million forced to flee.

Iraq:
The Iraq War forced millions of Iraqis to flee their homes. At the end of 2014, there were almost 4 million refugees and internally displaced people.


Vietnam:
By the end of the two-decade conflict, more than 3 million people were estimated to have been displaced. Many were later resettled in the U.S. and China.

Rwanda:
The Rwanda 1994 genocide sparked a mass exodus of more than 2 million people from the country, according to the UNHCR. Another 1.5 million people were internally displaced.

Somalia:
Since the collapse of the regime of Siad Barre in 1991, Somalia has seen multiple waves of displacement over the years. At the end of 2014, it was the third-highest source of refugees in the world, with 1.1 million.

Israel-Arab war:
The foundational events of the Nakba took place during and shortly after the 1948 Palestine war, including 78% of Mandatory Palestine being declared as Israel, the expulsion and flight of 700,000 Palestinians

https://graphics.wsj.com/migrant-crisis-a-history-of-displacement/


So why does Israel gets the special extra criticism?
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I think,because this conflict has being going for decades now and there is the religions aspect to it that draw a lot of attention too.
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Roo said:
What someone reps is important when pointing out cognitive dissonance. You can’t go around shitting on the west for “colonialism” when your entire society is based on basically the same shit.
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Agreed,lets all not be hypocrites and acknowledge both Christians and Muslims did wild stuff back in the day.
 
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Sekai Saikyō Mihawk

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Sir Tuna Sandwich II

Sir Tuna Sandwich II

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NAMELESS said:
Is your avi even legal?lmfao
yeah ,man.some people here never learn.They keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again.I think its for the best that this thread dies.
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I got thrashed here for saying that the crusades were a defensive war.
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Most of the western nations were never colonizers to begin with.Only a handful of them were.
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Many of them went to Portugal too.
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Pretty much all of Portugal got conquered.
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ask c4n
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I think,because this conflict has being going for decades now and there is the religions aspect to it that draw a lot of attention too.
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Agreed,lets all not be hypocrites and acknowledge both Christians and Muslims did wild stuff back in the day.
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My avi is from british sex ed video so it's approved for young teens by the british goverment :kata:
 
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