The English speaking Israeli MPs are hardly being mistranslated ,no?
Not like official stuff

more like just clips you see on social media of Israelis being assholes, wishing the death of Palestinians, stuff like that.

Not that I don’t believe there are people in Israel who believe those things. But I feel like subtitles create the possibility for disinformation.
 
I’ve read some pretty clown takes on jpost. Like this:

https://m.jpost.com/blogs/torah-commentaries/can-a-person-convert-to-judaism-409549

Jewish conversion has existed for centuries. It’s literally in the book of Ruth, which is part of the Tanakh(“Old Testament”).

The oral law is a fundamental part of Judaism. That’s why the religion is technically called “Rabbinical Judaism”, because it derives from the teachings of the rabbi.

You can’t just say “it’s not in the Torah therefore it’s not valid”. Because the Torah isn’t the end all be all for Judaism. I feel like reducing Judaism to just the Torah honestly ruins one of the best parts of the religion.
 
Also conversion benefits the Jewish community.

It makes to where Jews who intermarry can convert their partners and then raise the family Jewish.

Also converts seems to be extremely involved in the religion. I know this one family who had like 11 kids and the entire family converted to Judaism. All of those guys are extremely devout, more so than me.

I particularly am more involved in the synagogue than a lot of born Jewish people I know. There have been times where during the synagogue’s daily prayer, it was literally just me and 2 other guys.
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It just gets worse and worse in Gaza.

When the shoe is on the other foot, i hope the palestinians show the zionist terrorists, the same amounts of compassion and mercy that they were shown for 75+ years. I really do
I just want the war to end and for everyone to coexist
 
Also conversion benefits the Jewish community.

It makes to where Jews who intermarry can convert their partners and then raise the family Jewish.

Also converts seems to be extremely involved in the religion. I know this one family who had like 11 kids and the entire family converted to Judaism. All of those guys are extremely devout, more so than me.

I particularly am more involved in the synagogue than a lot of born Jewish people I know. There have been times where during the synagogue’s daily prayer, it was literally just me and 2 other guys.
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I just want the war to end and for everyone to coexist
So do I, Palestine had all 3 abrahamic faiths living togther for centuries. So we know its possible, but whenever Europe (and their bastard children in north america) gets involved, that's when the fuck ups start

But that will never happen as long as there's people with the same mindset as Netanyahu the filthy degenerate. And as long as America gives them impunity to do anything with 0 consequences.
 
So do I, Palestine had all 3 abrahamic faiths living togther for centuries. So we know its possible, but whenever Europe (and their bastard children in north america) gets involved, that's when the fuck ups start

But that will never happen as long as there's people with the same mindset as Netanyahu the filthy degenerate. And as long as America gives them impunity to do anything with 0 consequences.
I think Netanyahu and other high ranking officials of the Israeli government should face war crime charges.
 
The creation of Israel was a mistake but it's far too late for that hindsight.
Now even if Hamas were to completely surrender or get destroyed i can't see the palestinians living in Gaza ever beijg able to live in peace.
Like even if Gaza straight up turned into Israeli territory you know those people wouod never be treated like citizens.
I think israel could have worked if the Jews just resigned themselves to a small portion of land and made a sort of microstate, like Liechtenstein or Andorra

That wouldn’t have required any real expulsions or human rights violations. And I doubt the Arabs would really give a fuck if Jews just made a city of their own. Especially if they were heavily armed and had the backing of the US.

The issue is the israelis claiming a land that was 90% Arab and subsequently depopulating it
 
I also think those on the palestinian side who targeted civilians purposefully, should be standing right next to them
You are supporting genocide/war crime here.

If you were at the place of Palestinian in Gaza, you would also probably support horrible people. Simply because those are the only ones who act against the oppressor in an offensive manner. Its a priviledged position to have to say that you can have the choice not to support horrible people. When you have lost 30 members of a family and you see no change and a people in front of you in the other side of the wall that are making fun of you, you have only anger.

This is bad, but this doesn't mean you should be punished for it.

Wake the f*ck up.
 
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You are supporting genocide/war crime here.

If you were at the place of Palestinian in Gaza, you would also probably support horrible people. Simply because those are the only ones who act against the oppressor in an offensive manner. Its a priviledged position to have to say that you can have the choice not to support horrible people. When you have lost 30 member of a family and you see no change and a people in front of you in the other side of the wall that are making fun of you, you have only anger.

This is bad, but this doesn't mean you should be punished for it.

Wake the f*ck up.
Exactly,
its easy to debate from confort of ones home.
 
And never forget that the crusades were defensive wars!
Kinda were
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I mean, I respect that you are able to do that. Not everyone can put aside their political differences.

Ultimately, the argument is fallacious. If the White Europeans conquered, they're called colonists, but fuck talking about the atrocities of Japan or China during their colonial occupations of Korea, and let's not talk about the Islamic conquerors and how they treated individuals they captured or took over (used them in massive ships as slaves in the worst possible conditions).

It's just a way for people who, quite frankly, hate the West, to criticize it.
Double standards
 
You are supporting genocide/war crime here.

If you were at the place of Palestinian in Gaza, you would also probably support horrible people. Simply because those are the only ones who act against the oppressor in an offensive manner. Its a priviledged position to have to say that you can have the choice not to support horrible people. When you have lost 30 members of a family and you see no change and a people in front of you in the other side of the wall that are making fun of you, you have only anger.

This is bad, but this doesn't mean you should be punished for it.

Wake the f*ck up.
That guy is like ardently pro Palestinian
 
You are supporting genocide/war crime here.

If you were at the place of Palestinian in Gaza, you would also probably support horrible people. Simply because those are the only ones who act against the oppressor in an offensive manner. Its a priviledged position to have to say that you can have the choice not to support horrible people. When you have lost 30 members of a family and you see no change and a people in front of you in the other side of the wall that are making fun of you, you have only anger.

This is bad, but this doesn't mean you should be punished for it.

Wake the f*ck up.
Rarely do I agree with Logiko... and once again, I don't.

Evil is still evil. I do not agree with oppression politics. People can still choose to not engage. These individuals who have suffered can still realise that butchering the other side isn't good. If they're supporting Hamas, then they implicitly agree with their actions. It's not a position of privilege to disagree with evil. Fuck off with your twisted moralizing.
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I also think those on the palestinian side who targeted civilians purposefully, should be standing right next to them
First time I've agreed with you. But I can actually agree that whoever has committed the war crimes should be punished. Both fucking sides.
 
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