Controversial General Political Discussion

[Okamakama]

So we're both against the zionists. Good 👍🏾. The day I see actual evidence of Hamas killing civilians, like the zionists have been shown to do, I'll be the first to call them out

I'm against the terrorist Muslims and the murderous Israelites. Don't twist my words.

As for footage... they're online. If you cannot accept it as real, then you're a lost cause and likely an extremist.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I could argue there are people who mean well but don't know what they're doing, tbh.

I think there are people who ideally wouldn’t want to be a part of those organizations, but feel like they need to in order to defend their people

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

Relax, you just insulted Christians and atheists. Religion is hardly the real issue in this conflict.

The Christian evangelicals in support of the genocide, yes I've insulted them. Fuck them. The same for the atheists. If that hurts your sensibilities, i promise you I don't give a flying fuck

 

[Okamakama]

I think there are people who ideally wouldn’t want to be a part of those organizations, but feel like they need to in order to defend their people

I can agree with this. Good intention but bad method. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that.

The Christian evangelicals in support of the genocide, yes I've insulted them. Fuck them. The same for the atheists. If that hurts your sensibilities, i promise you I don't give a flying fuck

Way to demonize an entire group based on the actions of a few. Muslims argue like this all the time -- but I guess their own bad actors are just misunderstood, or it's just a deepfake!

It's people like you that give Muslims a bad name. People should call out their own bad actors.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

I'm against the terrorist Muslims and the murderous Israelites. Don't twist my words.

As for footage... they're online. If you cannot accept it as real, then you're a lost cause and likely an extremist.

Your words don't need twisting, they're being corrected.

Yes online, nice evidence 👏🏾. Yes me not accepting zionist propaganda online makes me an extremist. Had an inkling that you were slow, but thanks for confirming it 👍🏾
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I can agree with this. Good intention but bad method. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that.



Way to demonize an entire group based on the actions of a few. Muslims argue like this all the time -- but I guess their own bad actors are just misunderstood, or it's just a deepfake!

It's people like you that give Muslims a bad name. People should call out their own bad actors.

Not reading any of this crap. It's bound to be yet another slow ass take from you

 

[NikaInParis]

But I don’t see how people can say that hamas is evil and needs to be eradicated, while being pro IDF. Or even Vice versa.

They both engage in terrorism imo

Literally

 

[Okamakama]

Your words don't need twisting, they're being corrected.

Yes online, nice evidence 👏🏾. Yes me not accepting zionist propaganda online makes me an extremist. Had an inkling that you were slow, but thanks for confirming it 👍🏾

Ah yes... because you're on the ground in Palestine right now, seeing it all? Your arguments about propaganda can easily be applied to your own argument.

You can throw out adhominen arguments, but it doesn't make you right. This is the glory of freedom of speech.... I just need to let you make a fool of yourself. If you cannot see your own internal biases, well, shucks.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I'm against the terrorist Muslims and the murderous Israelites. Don't twist my words.

As for footage... they're online. If you cannot accept it as real, then you're a lost cause and likely an extremist.

Is this the same video evidence that "proves" the beheadings? The women raped in the streets, when the hostage says that they were eating, they were attended by doctors and living almost the same quality of life as the Hamas terrorists?
When you use as a casus belli something that gets proven a lie, you cannot be surprised that the public opinion will start to revalue your "evidence".
Specially with video surfacing of IDF shooting during the Hamas attack.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

"Muh ur just racist and hate xtians..."

The folks in question 🤣

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...ngelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ristians-republicans-2024-israel-palestinians

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

But I don’t see how people can say that hamas is evil and needs to be eradicated, while being pro IDF. Or even Vice versa.

They both engage in terrorism imo

Yeah but one engages with terrorism with missiles that are 40 years old or stolen from Afghanistan, driving Toyotas van. The other had the richest army in the world after the USA, an highly militarised state.
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"Muh ur just racist and hate xtians..."

The folks in question 🤣

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...ngelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ristians-republicans-2024-israel-palestinians

All the while christian churches are bombed to the ground in Gaza.
Another war crime.

 

[Okamakama]

Is this the same video evidence that "proves" the beheadings? The women raped in the streets, when the hostage says that they were eating, they were attended by doctors and living almost the same quality of life as the Hamas terrorists?
When you use as a casus belli something that gets proven a lie, you cannot be surprised that the public opinion will start to revalue your "evidence".
Specially with video surfacing of IDF shooting during the Hamas attack.

But ultimately that's just the in-group biases shown by supporters of Hamas. You want to believe that. It suits your narrative. Evidence shows both groups are evil.

 

[Zenos7]

When Germans say 'never again' they never express their aversion against genocide itself.

Isnt that just about fascism/dictatorship/racism?

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

Claim: Hamas killed festival the goers

Reality: IDF/Zionists indiscriminate shootings killed the 🇮🇱 civilians

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1713876981756948508

"But there's evidence online of khamas doing it bro. U must be an extremist."

 

[Zenos7]

So we're both against the zionists. Good 👍🏾. The day I see actual evidence of Hamas killing civilians, like the zionists have been shown to do, I'll be the first to call them out

Israeli citizens are also zionists?!

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

But ultimately that's just the in-group biases shown by supporters of Hamas. You want to believe that. It suits your narrative. Evidence shows both groups are evil.

I believe what I see.
And what I see is that there were no beheaded children, no raped women and the hostages claim themselves to be treated with respect.
There was a terror attack at that party lead by Hamas and IDF fought back.
Then a technological giant started bombing a country with no water access, hospitals, churches and apartments.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

All the while christian churches are bombed to the ground in Gaza.
Another war crime.

Funny that tbh. Christians not caring about churches being bombed. Well as their "prophecy" will come true, i guess the motto is bomb as many churches as you want

 

[Zenos7]

The Christian evangelicals in support of the genocide, yes I've insulted them. Fuck them. The same for the atheists. If that hurts your sensibilities, i promise you I don't give a flying fuck

What poster here is actually in support of genocide? Except for you

 

[Okamakama]

I believe what I see.
And what I see is that there were no beheaded children, no raped women and the hostages claim themselves to be treated with respect.
There was a terror attack at that party lead by Hamas and IDF fought back.
Then a technological giant started bombing a country with no water access, hospitals, churches and apartments.

And the hostages can easily be coerced too -- but such things are just overlooked in favour of the narrative you wish to believe. The difference here is, I don't want one side to be right. I am pretty confident both are wrong. I don't have any skin in this game, so to speak.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Funny that tbh. Christians not caring about churches being bombed. Well as their "prophecy" will come true, i guess the motto is bomb as many churches as you want

American Conservatives ( and please, I don't want to talk about Dems vs Reps) are religiously attached to their only faith. Money.

 

[Okamakama]

What poster here is actually in support of genocide? Except for you

His response will certainly be interesting.