Character Discussion Has Luffy Surpassed Roger
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He already has a bigger list of allies, somone who can actually *read* the Poneglyphs, and lead a victory against two matured Rocks members (one of which is arguably the strongest).
In terms of Haki no, but he also has a fruit on top of that. If he can handle Kizaru and Saturn at the same time, he might be equal or slightly stronger in G5 rn. But a timelimit is there which Roger didnt have.
Crew? Until Zoro can keep with with Kizaru, combat wise they're weaker. Though the SHs have a cyborg+skeleton.... imo the Straw Hats have a better crew but wouldnt win a fight ya dig?
Luffy needs to beat Shanks before he starts curbstomping shitheads like Akainu and Blackbeard.
In terms of Haki no, but he also has a fruit on top of that. If he can handle Kizaru and Saturn at the same time, he might be equal or slightly stronger in G5 rn. But a timelimit is there which Roger didnt have.
Crew? Until Zoro can keep with with Kizaru, combat wise they're weaker. Though the SHs have a cyborg+skeleton.... imo the Straw Hats have a better crew but wouldnt win a fight ya dig?
Luffy needs to beat Shanks before he starts curbstomping shitheads like Akainu and Blackbeard.
Crew size doesn’t matter when you have quality. Luffy’s crew members are strong Luffy as the top tier and his three strongest fighters are YCs + level and three who are at least Veterans level tho his weak trio are considerably weak tho none of them has reached their full potential like Roger’s crew so when EOS comes his crew of ten people would be far greater than Roger’s 50 -100 crew members
probably won't surpass him in fame until he dies.
But in terms of achievements it seems like he's done similar, if not more. He led a war that ended 2 yonko, took down 3 shichibukai and made 1 bow down to him on his crew, trashed impel down/enies lobby and just one shot an admiral.
Roger got a treasure that no one even knew existed or competed for. His biggest rival whitebeard wasn't even a rival they just had a play fight from time to time, and he got seriously lucky with Shiki. Xebec was his only big moment, but it was stated that infighting brought them down so it's tainted until proven otherwise. Not doubting his strength btw, just what he's achieved with it.
But in terms of achievements it seems like he's done similar, if not more. He led a war that ended 2 yonko, took down 3 shichibukai and made 1 bow down to him on his crew, trashed impel down/enies lobby and just one shot an admiral.
Roger got a treasure that no one even knew existed or competed for. His biggest rival whitebeard wasn't even a rival they just had a play fight from time to time, and he got seriously lucky with Shiki. Xebec was his only big moment, but it was stated that infighting brought them down so it's tainted until proven otherwise. Not doubting his strength btw, just what he's achieved with it.
Not as of yet. Roger’s right hand man Rayleigh was so famous that he was even more notorious than Yonko. At Sabaody, the Strawhats knew of Rayleigh when they didn’t even know of the Yonko at EL.
Even Buggy got fame just by being announced as a former member of the Roger Pirates.
Luffy will surpass Roger when he does what Roger couldn’t: overthrowing the WG.
Even Buggy got fame just by being announced as a former member of the Roger Pirates.
Luffy will surpass Roger when he does what Roger couldn’t: overthrowing the WG.
In a way he is just one of 4 yonkos while nobody is even strong enough to claim the PK title, only Roger in history was able to do it. So here he is inferior.
On the other he is the second coming of Jesus aka Joy Boy and here he is clearly above Roger since Roger in the end was just a mortal while Luffy is the reincarnation of a god (who is feared by the WG, the real WG aka gorosei and Im, unlike Roger).
On the other he is the second coming of Jesus aka Joy Boy and here he is clearly above Roger since Roger in the end was just a mortal while Luffy is the reincarnation of a god (who is feared by the WG, the real WG aka gorosei and Im, unlike Roger).
no it doesn’t, and you know they gonna PK crew end of the series. The numbers you think matter would be destroyed by quality. And this is only current SHs by end of the series Zoro would be a top tier and not just your average top tier while Sanji would also be top tier so three top tiers in one crew and the rest would advance more in power and let’s not forget the grand fleet.
