General & Others Main duo + stand out

[Albino 👑]

That's not what i was saying and also we have the manga to back up my claim, all characters who have reached the very top of the verse all have advCoC, not 1 character who is truly strong doesnt have advCoC.

Chinjao has normal CoC so i dont get your point.............

Admirals. Blackbeard probably won’t have it ei

You are right about that but on the other hand hating on zoro isn't going to stop the fact that he is luffy's strongest and the FM, or that him and Luffy are the only COC duo

When did I saw zoro wasn’t stronger than sanji? Was it when I said queen and jozu are stronger than king and Marco? I could be wrong but I don’t think I said any of that

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

Admirals. Blackbeard probably won’t have it ei

When did I saw zoro wasn’t stronger than sanji? Was it when I said queen and jozu are stronger than king and Marco? I could be wrong but I don’t think I said any of that

I never said you did though....
Now, have you ever paired Zoro and Luffy as a duo as well??

 

[Albino 👑]

I never said you did though....
Now, have you ever paired Zoro and Luffy as a duo as well??

Than there’s no reason to quote me mentioning zoro can at times be paired up with luffy and that he’s stronger than sanji…

Since I never mentioned anything related to either. Didn’t mention luffy or none of the captains. Didn’t mention how strong zoro and sanji are individually. Just like I didn’t mention the other duo’s specific strength level/gap

All the thread does is highlights are the main 2 men under the captain along with standout members besides them

 

[Shasha23]

Admirals. Blackbeard probably won’t have it ei

when you read what i said did you just read it or did you try to understand?

 

[Cruxroux]

Than there’s no reason to quote me mentioning zoro can at times be paired up with luffy and that he’s stronger than sanji…

Since I never mentioned anything related to either. Didn’t mention luffy or none of the captains. Didn’t mention how strong zoro and sanji are individually. Just like I didn’t mention the other duo’s specific strength level/gap

All the thread does is highlights are the main 2 men under the captain along with standout members besides them

You're wrong even in that.
Zoro ~ Chopper > Zoro ~ Sanji.

This thread is itself useless. I don't understand its purpose either.

 

[trav]

"Main duo" is Captain + X

Bait thread.

 

[Albino 👑]

when you read what i said did you just read it or did you try to understand?

Yes I did
The admirals are still top of the verse and they don’t need to have conquerors coating for that to be true.

 

[Cruxroux]

Yes I did
The admirals are still top of the verse and they don’t need to have conquerors coating for that to be true.

Lmao they are not.

 

[Albino 👑]

Lmao they are not.

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

Than there’s no reason to quote me mentioning zoro can at times be paired up with luffy and that he’s stronger than sanji…

Since I never mentioned anything related to either. Didn’t mention luffy or none of the captains. Didn’t mention how strong zoro and sanji are individually. Just like I didn’t mention the other duo’s specific strength level/gap

All the thread does is highlights are the main 2 men under the captain along with standout members besides them

Now it's like trying to hide behind our fingers man 😞.
I quote you to see if you are objectively writing something or there is agenda involved in.
Thanks for your answer though

 

[Albino 👑]

Now it's like trying to hide behind our fingers man 😞.
I quote you to see if you are objectively writing something or there is agenda involved in.
Thanks for your answer though

The “agenda” is that I think the main duo + standout subordinates seems to be a pattern
Like an oden or ace

 

[Shasha23]

Yes I did
The admirals are still top of the verse and they don’t need to have conquerors coating for that to be true.

the admirals are not the top of the verse, Let's list characters who reached the top:

Garp
Roger
Newgate
Sengoku
Kaidou
Linlin
Shanks
Rayleigh

none of the admirals are beating any 1 of those characters i listed, now tell me how you can claim the admirals are at the top of the verse

 

[Albino 👑]

the admirals are not the top of the verse, Let's list characters who reached the top:

Garp
Roger
Newgate
Sengoku
Kaidou
Linlin
Shanks
Rayleigh

none of the admirals are beating any 1 of those characters i listed, now tell me how you can claim the admirals are at the top of the verse

The admirals have been compared to the emperors since the start. It doesn’t matter whether or not they have conquerors coating

Same way Blackbeard doesn’t need conquerors coating either

 

[Cruxroux]

Mihawk top 1 then?

 

[Albino 👑]

Mihawk top 1 then?

?
He never was and never will be

Mihawk has literally nothing to do with the admirals being top tiers

 

[Cruxroux]

?
He never was and never will be

Mihawk has literally nothing to do with the admirals being top tiers

I'm providing you with canon Material , why won't you believe it lol

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

The “agenda” is that I think the main duo + standout subordinates seems to be a pattern
Like an oden or ace

Ok.
As far as pattern goes it's difficult to connect them because they are different cases.
Ace and sabo were the the young kids joining their set up crew's as the potential next leaders.
Oden was a WB member who joined roger for just one year.
Yamato by her own actions was never a kaido's crew member.
Strawhats, red haired, Roger and kid pirates are like families who created their crews really young and if anything, Beckman, Rayleigh, killer and zoro are a more solid duo with their captains in comparison with the next strongest.
All of them beasts, too strong to go under someone except that one "special man" , most trustworthy etc.
The moment you put Beckman and killer as a standout and not zoro alongside them who share so many things and a fight with one of them, it did seem like an agenda thread but i will take your word for it.

 

[Albino 👑]

Ok.
As far as pattern goes it's difficult to connect them because they are different cases.
Ace and sabo were the the young kids joining their set up crew's as the potential next leaders.
Oden was a WB member who joined roger for just one year.
Yamato by her own actions was never a kaido's crew member.
Strawhats, red haired, Roger and kid pirates are like families who created their crews really young and if anything, Beckman, Rayleigh, killer and zoro are a more solid duo with their captains in comparison with the next strongest.
All of them beasts, too strong to go under someone except that one "special man" , most trustworthy etc.
The moment you put Beckman and killer as a standout and not zoro alongside them who share so many things and a fight with one of them, it did seem like an agenda thread but i will take your word for it.

Never said they’re all the same exact situation either
Yamato was a member of the beast pirates the same way Koby was a member of the alvida pirates. Kaido even planned to have Yamato take over wano even if it was by force

Oden, ace, sabo, and Yamato are all still the standouts of the crews. All becoming truly relevant to the crews after each was already established along with the duo

Roger got oden who was obviously more important than Rayleigh during his time as a Roger pirate
We don’t know the future of the kid (or heart) pirates. Tbh I just listed them to make it a clean 10. As for beckman for all we know roux could be the gaban equivalent of the crew. We don’t know yet

And the kid and red haired pirates aren’t the strawhats. Kid doesn’t have a sanji equivalent and like I said we technically don’t know yet for shanks.
Zoro and Sanji are luffy’s top 2 guys he relies on

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

Never said they’re all the same exact situation either
Yamato was a member of the beast pirates the same way Koby was a member of the alvida pirates. Kaido even planned to have Yamato take over wano even if it was by force

Oden, ace, sabo, and Yamato are all still the standouts of the crews. All becoming truly relevant to the crews after each was already established along with the duo

Roger got oden who was obviously more important than Rayleigh during his time as a Roger pirate
We don’t know the future of the kid (or heart) pirates. Tbh I just listed them to make it a clean 10. As for beckman for all we know roux could be the gaban equivalent of the crew. We don’t know yet

And the kid and red haired pirates aren’t the strawhats. Kid doesn’t have a sanji equivalent and like I said we technically don’t know yet for shanks.
Zoro and Sanji are luffy’s top 2 guys he relies on

Again those cases aren't similar and they shouldn't viewed as such.
Ace and sabo are special cases of young stars going under top tiers as their next leaders. Sabo isn't a standout yet and neither would be ace if he was alive.
Oden was a WB member and him and his captain are a duo that resembles more luffy and zoro than a standout to a crew that they ask permission from his captain to go.
Yamato belongs to strawhats and she will not be a standout when she joins.
Kid pirates are exactly the same and you are confused if you think otherwise.
Heat was obviously the guy after killer from back to somebody and they share fire based attacks with sanji as well.
In wano heat and wire/ jinbe and sanji were fighting here and there while killer the standout and zoro were up to the rooftop with their captains. Why heat isn't as reliable as sanji??
Beckman said to be shanks moon and zoro was drawn as such by oda even if the cover didn't make it.

 

[Albino 👑]

Again those cases aren't similar and they shouldn't viewed as such.
Ace and sabo are special cases of young stars going under top tiers as their next leaders. Sabo isn't a standout yet and neither would be ace if he was alive.
Oden was a WB member and him and his captain are a duo that resembles more luffy and zoro than a standout to a crew that they ask permission from his captain to go.
Yamato belongs to strawhats and she will not be a standout when she joins.
Kid pirates are exactly the same and you are confused if you think otherwise.
Heat was obviously the guy after killer from back to somebody and they share fire based attacks with sanji as well.
In wano heat and wire/ jinbe and sanji were fighting here and there while killer the standout and zoro were up to the rooftop with their captains. Why heat isn't as reliable as sanji??
Beckman said to be shanks moon and zoro was drawn as such by oda even if the cover didn't make it.

Again
I’m not using the captain

1. Ace and sabo still were/were stand outs
2. Oden being part of whitebeard crew originally doesn’t change the fact he became an extremely important member of the roger pirates
3. Yamato was a beast pirate even if it was by force and that’s the comparison I’m making
4. No kid does not have a zoro and sanji or king and queen equivalent in his crew lol. Killer and heat are in no way a comparable duo. Hating Sanji doesn’t change the fact that zoro and sanji are his too 2 main men
5. Again the red haired pirates aren’t the strawhats. Zoro will surpass beckman yes that still doesn’t change that they don’t have the same relationship with their captains or the rest of the crew. Luffy doesn’t prioritize him over the rest of the crew and he doesn’t have more say than any of the other members