Like every said zoro not facing anyone that also wants the title doesn’t help. At the end of the day the only swordman he needs to beat that matters is mihawk. As long as he’s becoming a stronger swordsman it technically doesn’t matter who he fights along the path
It’d still help if he did fight others who want the title like luffy fights others who want the one piece
Still think his final fight being kuina would be the coolest thing when it comes to his path
I will be frank he doesnt have a lot of competition
and mihawk should not be the sole top tier he fights
shiryu doesnt command the potrayal needed and king was a decent stepping stone
last couple fights could make it worth it
if mihawk lives up to expectation and the gorosei are cracked , essentially legends that have traversed through time, then the conversation of being the strongest swordman in history isnt far fetched because then he would have accomplished something most of the other greats didnt.
Buggy might become stronger than Mihawk, that would be insane, hopefully it wont happen, becouse than we would get luffy v buggy zoro v mihawk and sanji v croc
The journey is as it should be.
First, he defeats those who took shortcuts to Power and ate something others before them dreamt up.
Then he will hopefully encounter first-time manifestations.
And ultimately, he will reach the pinnacle of the strength of the OP world, the one who promised to await at the top.
Zoro finding and fighting other swordsmen who share the same dream has nothing to do with his dream. In fact the haters would have way more to say and minimise Zoro's dream as nothing more than a swordfight that has nothing to do with the top pl wise.
Zoro's road to perfection is what his dream is and that is to create the strongest and skillest swordsmanship ever be. Which is the skills to cut through elements and stuff that can't be cut AND having the strongest blades to do so aka haki.
Tbh Oda fumbled everyone's dreams except Luffy. He rarely mentions them in the story anymore. He literally forgot Chopper's cure-all opportunity in Wano.
This much is true, and even Luffy's a mixed bag as everyone that's relevant to the Pirate King race rarely acted unless it's reacting to Luffy's actions, which in turns gives them little agency.
Zoro's Dream is to become the Worlds Strongest Swordsman (Sekai Saikyō no Kenshi) What are your thoughts on Oda's handling of Zoro's dream, I think everything was fine until Oda had Mihawk train Zoro that's when things got shaky and then I feel like Oda should've done 1 of the following by now, Either highlight Mihawk or Zoro's Opponents, so far Oda hasn't really done either of those things until King in Wano. If the plan is really to save Mihawk until the Zoro fight, that's mid asf damn near trash. Zoro Vs King should have been the bare minimum quality for Zoro's fights Post Timeskip if that's the case. hopefully Zoro gets more extreme diff fights before Mihawk and hopefully Mihawk gets a fight or 2 to show his abilities before the Zoro Fight.
Buggy might become stronger than Mihawk, that would be insane, hopefully it wont happen, becouse than we would get luffy v buggy zoro v mihawk and sanji v croc
Oda's choice for Sanji's opponent always have deeper context than a surface level fighting. Like Mr 2 addressing Sanji's weakness to women or Wanze being a cook or Absalom eating his childhood dream's DF.
Croc have the biggest thematic connection to Sanji, as opposed to other 3rd (Burgess, Roo, Fuji/GB). So it's highly possible that Sanji vs Croc happening.
one of the few things One piece does well in terms of character writing is the backstories. Until recently, this was probably one of the best things about every single arc in one piece. Even in the new world.
one of the few things One piece does well in terms of character writing is the backstories. Until recently, this was probably one of the best things about every single arc in one piece. Even in the new world.
one of the few things One piece does well in terms of character writing is the backstories. Until recently, this was probably one of the best things about every single arc in one piece. Even in the new world.
What's your favorite backstory?
Why do you think Oda didn't expand every SH backstories?
Oden's backstory making Luffy to pay attention is what irk me the most.
What's your favorite backstory?
Why do you think Oda didn't expand every SH backstories?
Oden's backstory making Luffy to pay attention is what irk me the most.
Until recently I would have said the Robin flashback was my favorite… but of course that’s now been tainted by Saul being alive
now it’s Chopper’s backstory that’s my favorite
if you’re asking why every other strawhat didn’t get a Sanji style second arc and backstory, well as far as I can tell it’s simply because Oda had no good ideas for them
again, until recently I would have said that it maybe Oda just doesn’t have time to recenter the story on the strawhats and give them any more depth but Wano exists../ Wano is a 150 chapter long arc in the high I do not believe Oda couldn’t have fit a Zoro story in it if he wanted to… I know this because Zoro did get the most ones time he has ever gotten in the series in this arc… It’s just that it was all wasted space that served no purpose… it was all basically fan service panels and a lot plot set up that went nowhere
Wano showed that actually there is a lot of space in these arcs:.. There is no strawhat focus in the arc simply because Oda has nothing to say about the strawhats in general to fill that space… sanji got a second arc because Oda had an idea for it… everyone else Oda doesn’t have any ideas for them so they get nothing… Even when Oda KNOWS that they should matter, such as Zoro in Wano, because Oda has nothing interesting to say about Zoro, he has him do nothing as well
Respectfully, it's you who misunderstood what character writing is meant.
It is not about whether you/reader like a character or not, it's about how the author crafts a character.
How many details the author give to the character? How can the author integrate the character into story? How would the author connect his character to other characters? How is the character appearance, personality, motivation, strength, weakness, etc? There's many other thing.
Just because you don't like Sanji, doesn't take away what and how Oda build his character. The fact that Oda creates more than one layer to everything about Sanji alone is already make him be #1 mangaka in character writing.
Zoro post timeskip will never get an extreme diff fight besides Mihawk. Only reason King was so bad cause of Hakai, his sword fucking around, and the Mink cum time limit. Even when he fights the crimson chin, once he cuts nothing dudes going down in three hits at most.
Respectfully, it's you who misunderstood what character writing is meant.
It is not about whether you/reader like a character or not, it's about how the author crafts a character.
How many details the author give to the character? How can the author integrate the character into story? How would the author connect his character to other characters? How is the character appearance, personality, motivation, strength, weakness, etc? There's many other thing.
Just because you don't like Sanji, doesn't take away what and how Oda build his character. The fact that Oda creates more than one layer to everything about Sanji alone is already make him be #1 mangaka in character writing.
But @ImmaIvanoM isn't wrong about characterization being a weak point in Loda's writing. Sanji's second backstory in WCI doesn't add much to Sanji as a character that his flashbacks with Zeff doesn't already accomplishes as nothing fundamentally changes about Sanji, and in fact constantly lies about Sanji being the "kindest person ever", which can't be further from the truth. Simply layering details on a character doesn't equate to adding complexity to them.
And speaking of Sanji's character, what has he done to accomplish his dream to find the All Blue? What has he done to alleviate his weakness to not fight women so he doesn't unnecessarily put his crew in harm's way? Have Sanji's 99 recipes play any meaningful role throughout the New World? Etc etc.
But @ImmaIvanoM isn't wrong about characterization being a weak point in Loda's writing. Sanji's second backstory in WCI doesn't add much to Sanji as a character that his flashbacks with Zeff doesn't already accomplishes as nothing fundamentally changes about Sanji, and in fact constantly lies about Sanji being the "kindest person ever", which can't be further from the truth. Simply layering details on a character doesn't equate to adding complexity to them.
And speaking of Sanji's character, what has he done to accomplish his dream to find the All Blue? What has he done to alleviate his weakness to not fight women so he doesn't unnecessarily put his crew in harm's way? Have Sanji's 99 recipes play any meaningful role throughout the New World? Etc etc.
You are misunderstanding a lot of the series intentions and goals.
The all blue isn't real yet (most likely), and since there are no leads it be so unimaginably boring (and waste so much time) to have him constantly obsess over something that wont pay off till the Red Lines destroyed. The 99 recipes? He cooks every damn day, and would waste so many panels talking about what they cooked that day. Sanji's dream along with many of the Straw Hats are boring 90% of the time, and would drag out an already slow paced series.
Sanji's refusal to hit women isn't a weakness, its a character trait and he will not lose it. I can understand finding it annoying but Sanji's love of women is a core part of his character.
A Sanji that hits women, isn't Sanji and thats that.
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