Controversial General Political Discussion

[Okamakama]

ban hammer incoming

Seems like a joke -- even if I didn't understand it at first...

 

[Zolo]

Seems like a joke -- even if I didn't understand it at first...

obviously a joke, but wonder why poles wanted this.

 

[Zenos7]

The idea of killing one being equal to killing all mankind, for example, falls on deaf ears in the eyes of the law of reciprocity.

Just need to read the verse in its entirety lmao

 

[Okamakama]

Just need to read the verse in its entirety lmao

Now now, Zenos, you wouldn't want to be a phobic now, would you?

“Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.” – Quran 5:32

So long as you're retaliating for murder, it's okay, lads.

Saving a life is saving everyone... wow... it really helps to encourage zealotry. Just gotta help one person and you're helping EVERYONE....

 

[Monkey D Theories]

The Jewish faith believes themselves the chosen ones.

I wish more people actually understood jewish chosen-ness.

The idea isn't that jews can do whatever the fuck they want because they're special. Its that G-d literally holds jews to a higher moral and ethical standard because he wants them to be exemplary people.

Which is really fucking ironic, because a ton of pro-Israel discourse is based on whataboutism.
"what about Hamas"
"What about other countries that commit war crimes"
"What about antisemitism"

 

[Okamakama]

I wish more people actually understood jewish chosen-ness.

The idea isn't that jews can do whatever the fuck they want because they're special. Its that G-d literally holds jews to a higher moral and ethical standard because he wants them to be exemplary people.

Which is really fucking ironic, because a ton of pro-Israel discourse is based on whataboutism.
"what about Hamas"
"What about other countries that commit war crimes"
"What about antisemitism"

Yes. Such self-aggrandizement is considered arrogance. Holding yourself to a higher moral "standard" because god considers YOU exemplary is the embodiment of blowing smoke up your own ass.

 

[Zenos7]

You stole your values from Christianity and only give them credit when you are called out.
That's a prime example of appropriation here.

Retarded take

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Yes. Such self-aggrandizement is considered arrogance. Holding yourself to a higher moral "standard" because god considers YOU exemplary is the embodiment of blowing smoke up your own ass.

Am I hurting anybody? Does anyone really care?

 

[Okamakama]

Am I hurting anybody? Does anyone really care?

No, but it's the embodiment of arrogance that may or may not lead to a superiority complex.

 

[Zenos7]

Western Values are Judeo-Christian values. To deny the impact religion has had on western society is being ignorant

Religion had impact, first sentence isnt exactly right though

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I’ll amend this. A lot of Western Values derived from Christianity and Judaism. There’s some that arose from secular movements and cultures during and after the renaissance

Ye

 

[Okamakama]

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Retarded

 

[Monkey D Theories]

No, but it's the embodiment of arrogance that may or may not lead to a superiority complex.

So like on Yom Kippur, when I donated 100 dollars to my local homeless shelter because I felt like I had some obligation to do so, you think that's arrogance?

 

[Okamakama]

So like on Yom Kippur, when I donated 100 dollars to my local homeless shelter because I felt like I had some obligation to do so, you think that's arrogance?

Throwing money at a problem is not helping charity. Actually volunteer at that shelter and you'll be doing some good. You are not righteous because you feel compelled.

 

[Zenos7]

Avoiding violence is a Christian value then you have the crusades and any and each acts of violent conversions etc...

Spoiler alert: adherents of a religion might go against said religions values or teachings

 

[Okamakama]

Spoiler alert: adherents of a religion might go against said religions values or teachings

B-but that's against the rules.

 

[NikaInParis]

So like on Yom Kippur, when I donated 100 dollars to my local homeless shelter because I felt like I had some obligation to do so, you think that's arrogance?

Don't try to prove your morality to people online.

You did an objectively good thing - whether or not somebody agrees on your reasoning for doing it shouldn't bother you at all.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

That's just unhinged...

He’s not being serious.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

That's just unhinged...

I guess sarcasm is not a concept you grasp very well.

 

[Okamakama]

He’s not being serious.

How can we tell, really? Other people have told people to die on this forum and got banned for it. Heck, even suicide jokes got people banned iirc? I've always prevented myself from making such jokes to toe the line, is it acceptable?

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I guess sarcasm is not a concept you grasp very well.

I grasp sarcasm. But I also try to keep to rules. Rules that have gotten other people banned.