Controversial Why people are so salty because of Imu and his Gorosei could be the final bosses in the series
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So you think Blackbeard will invade Wano, wipe out the samurai, Yamato and co and destroy the country to acquire Pluton buried beneath it?
I think that would just make Wano even worse in retrospect.
How would that work though? So the Strawhats turn around, backtracking several weeks and with all their global allies take down the WG with forces far more powerful than the Blackbeard pirates with much greater stakes resolving a conflict of over 800 years….only to then turn back around and spend several weeks again going down the Grandline to get to Laughtale and fight the much smaller force of the Blackbeard Pirates who patiently waited for them all that time (and all the Strawhat allies have decided to no longer help) for much smaller stakes for a treasure that’s now pointless because they’d already overthrown the WG before even finding out the secrets of 900 centuries ago and don’t even have to worry about coming up with a different decision than the Roger Pirates because it never really mattered anyway and Rayleigh was just pulling their legs?
I think that would just make Wano even worse in retrospect.
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How would that work though? So the Strawhats turn around, backtracking several weeks and with all their global allies take down the WG with forces far more powerful than the Blackbeard pirates with much greater stakes resolving a conflict of over 800 years….only to then turn back around and spend several weeks again going down the Grandline to get to Laughtale and fight the much smaller force of the Blackbeard Pirates who patiently waited for them all that time (and all the Strawhat allies have decided to no longer help) for much smaller stakes for a treasure that’s now pointless because they’d already overthrown the WG before even finding out the secrets of 900 centuries ago and don’t even have to worry about coming up with a different decision than the Roger Pirates because it never really mattered anyway and Rayleigh was just pulling their legs?
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The Yankers are mad BC the marines have stronger fighters and shanks isn't the coolest kid on the block
The Ladmirals are mad BC the admirals looked like shit just for some old creeps and a left at the alter bridetyrant to swing around catching W's. It'd be fucking rough losing to another faction let alone a few old dudes from your own....
These are the only ones who really lose from seeing these mfs flex their shit tbh
The Ladmirals are mad BC the admirals looked like shit just for some old creeps and a left at the alter bridetyrant to swing around catching W's. It'd be fucking rough losing to another faction let alone a few old dudes from your own....
These are the only ones who really lose from seeing these mfs flex their shit tbh
There is severe cognitive dissonance in thinking Imu is the final foe, but somehow, the gorosei won't end up stronger than the admirals and be the final fights.
Meaning the gorosei could be as individuals above the yonko. They are most certainly above the admirals. That much really isn't up for debate.
So we will see that the so the end game power hierarchy could be:
Luffy>Imu>Strawhat and allies who beat Gorosei> gorosei>yonko>admiral
And allies in that third tier could include Dragon, Blackbeard, Law etc
Meaning the gorosei could be as individuals above the yonko. They are most certainly above the admirals. That much really isn't up for debate.
So we will see that the so the end game power hierarchy could be:
Luffy>Imu>Strawhat and allies who beat Gorosei> gorosei>yonko>admiral
And allies in that third tier could include Dragon, Blackbeard, Law etc
I find it quite fitting for them to be the final bosses.
I don't remember exactly but i have the impression that most of the evil that luffy has beat through his journey were created by those mf's.
Even Bb when oda draw him as a child was a really sad boy and him wanting to destroy this rotten world is more justified than CD killing innocent defenseless people.
So yes, gorosei and IM should be taken down as the final bosses and the whole world will restart again imo.
I don't remember exactly but i have the impression that most of the evil that luffy has beat through his journey were created by those mf's.
Even Bb when oda draw him as a child was a really sad boy and him wanting to destroy this rotten world is more justified than CD killing innocent defenseless people.
So yes, gorosei and IM should be taken down as the final bosses and the whole world will restart again imo.
The issue is one of direct impact vs indirect impact. Direct impact is when a villain personally gets their hands dirty, versus indirect impact is when a villain is moving from the shadows having others do the dirty work for them.
Akainu and Teach stand out more than IMU, right now because they have had direct impact on the story and more importantly Luffy. Teach directly captures Ace and Akainu directly kills him. We can assign blame to many of the WG/Marines higher ups for these events too, but it would all be indirect impact of them allowing or encouraging certain events to occur rather then getting their hands dirty themselves.
It’s very easy for Oda to shift a villain from indirect impact to direct impact though. If IMU showed up on egghead and killed Nami or Ussop in front of Luffy, suddenly IMU’s impact would become direct and it’s very doubtful anyone would have a problem with FV IMU.
The concern with comparing him to Kaguya, is that this will not happen since we are near the end of the story. IMU will never have direct impact until the final battle and will be poorly established as direct villain to the series. I don’t think Oda will do this, but I understand the fear.
Akainu and Teach stand out more than IMU, right now because they have had direct impact on the story and more importantly Luffy. Teach directly captures Ace and Akainu directly kills him. We can assign blame to many of the WG/Marines higher ups for these events too, but it would all be indirect impact of them allowing or encouraging certain events to occur rather then getting their hands dirty themselves.
It’s very easy for Oda to shift a villain from indirect impact to direct impact though. If IMU showed up on egghead and killed Nami or Ussop in front of Luffy, suddenly IMU’s impact would become direct and it’s very doubtful anyone would have a problem with FV IMU.
The concern with comparing him to Kaguya, is that this will not happen since we are near the end of the story. IMU will never have direct impact until the final battle and will be poorly established as direct villain to the series. I don’t think Oda will do this, but I understand the fear.
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The strongest character in Naruto is Kaido in One Piece in comparison. A specific character whom Blackbeard, the final villain, calls a fearsome monster, and those closest to Imu are afraid to provoke him.
While Doflamingo blackmails Imu-sama.
Another insane L of Imu-sama, aside from, of course, failing to knock out Sabo, while Base Kaido is knocking out top-tier fighters and monsters like Oden in his basic form. @Sentinel
While Doflamingo blackmails Imu-sama.
Another insane L of Imu-sama, aside from, of course, failing to knock out Sabo, while Base Kaido is knocking out top-tier fighters and monsters like Oden in his basic form. @Sentinel
Obito was also wary of Nagato/Pain. Does it mean Pain > EOS Obito, let alone Madara?
Kaido being Pain fits more because after that arc the final saga started. Naruto was also recognized as a hero who saved Konoha and he basically beat his first top tier opponent with help as well.
Shall I keep going?
Kaido being Pain fits more because after that arc the final saga started. Naruto was also recognized as a hero who saved Konoha and he basically beat his first top tier opponent with help as well.
Shall I keep going?
Of course you are not convinced; after all, you believe One Piece's Pain equivalent is the strongest character alive which is just bull.
I don't know, I just quoted your post, #63, which says Hagoromo is apparently Kaido.
It's not my fault you used a Naruto analogy to prove your point, lol. Why are you constantly dodging Sasaki?
Lol, find me a statement of Kaido claiming to be strongest pirate, above Roger and Primebeard. As far as I know, Kaido didn't even sniff Laugh Tale, let alone ever beating Roger on a battle.
I don't know, I just quoted your post, #63, which says Hagoromo is apparently Kaido.
It's not my fault you used a Naruto analogy to prove your point, lol. Why are you constantly dodging Sasaki?
Lol, find me a statement of Kaido claiming to be strongest pirate, above Roger and Primebeard. As far as I know, Kaido didn't even sniff Laugh Tale, let alone ever beating Roger on a battle.
When you put it that way... 
Ultimately, Kaidou was dealt with even before the Final Saga started. Nothing changes that.
Ultimately, Kaidou was dealt with even before the Final Saga started. Nothing changes that.
Sasaki's recent posts and threads reek insecurity by the way.
The overwank gets annoying honestly lmao. It was never a good investment to put Kaido as this top 3 guy all-time. He lost before the final saga even started. Kaido remaining in the top 10 all-time conversation will be the absolute best case scenario for him, feats will reach new heights in the final stretch.