Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1097 Spoilers Discussion

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Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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OPKnK said:
He differnt in sense that he did not want to be directly under the CD .
So if something happen to one of them you call admirals not garp and he don't have to see the face as much .
It his way of rebelling but that don't really mean much when still under the system .
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Yeah unless Garps man crush is involved then he’s more than happy to help the celestial dragons in their massacre
 
ConquistadoR

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
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MarineHQ said:
Whenever the topic revolves around Garp and his relation with the CD's then supporting them is a necessary evil but when Admirals do it they're the dogs of the CD.

Remember all the shit talking when the most radical Admiral Akainu said that the people who suffer under the warlords are a necessarily sacrifice to keep the system running ?

What I'm asking for here is consistency.

If Garp is what I'm assuming written to be a good hearted person, he cannot turn a blind eye to all the suffering that's surrounding him which is caused by the people that give him his paycheck. They're literally forcing slaves to carry them.

Garp was in the position to do something but he didn't while guys like Dragon and Fuji did. I'm fine with that since I stan Akainu of all Marines but people should stop pretending like Garp is any different to the other Top Marines.
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It's a personality thing & not an "Admirals thing".

Greenbull comes to Wano - tells everyone that racism/classism is what allows the World to work & that he believes they have no Human Rights. Literally the shit you see in the Real World right now.

Akainu nukes the entirety of Ohara to make sure not a single Scholar escaped.

You guys love to romanticize that - "Akainu did Nothing Wrong".
Then complain when people like Greenbull & Akainu are called trash for siding with Philosophy that is Trash.

Heck slander an extremist like Sengoku too - his entire Speech to begin the War at Marineford involved around we're Publicly Executing you because you might become another Roger. Completely dehumanizing Ace.

People like Aokiji, Fujitora, Garp are an exception.

Fujitora & Aokiji reasons are Obvious.
Kizaru too believes he is just another "Cog in the Machine".

Garp? He is literally a Marine Luffy.
He is what Luffy would've become had he not met Shanks but a Marine instead & had a single bad experience with Pirates.



He is canonically the "Freest Marine in the Sea" just like how Luffy wants to be the "Freest Man in the Sea".
He is simply fighting for the Greater Good, his entire story in Marineford was whether he'd sacrifice his Grandson for the Greater Good.
 
SakazukiTheFist

SakazukiTheFist

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Cozy Sofa said:
What it shows us that Fujitora is a very formidable political player. It doesn't say anything about his power compared to Dragon or the other Admirals. It is also possible he is the only one that could get away with what he is doing due to being blind and pretending to be slow. Humans always underestimate someone like that.

Political savvyness and leadership tier list
S-tier
Sengoku, Kong, Fujitora
A-tier
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B-tier
Akainu, Aokiji
C-tier
-
D-tier
Garp
-
E-tier
Kizaru, Aramaki

Sengoku was unquestioned leader for years hailed for his strategic mind, Kong has climbed even beyond FA (could be due to being a yes man though) and Fujitora has in no time gotten his will through outsmarting Akainu and only gotten found out by the GOAT Sengoku.

Akainu and Aokiji both are able to lead but they can't unite the Marines leading to factions.

Garp has loyal followers but he is way too rash and lacks smart ways to dupe his superiors to get his will through.

Kizaru and Aramaki follow rather than lead.

Dragon probably is more of a leader in opposition than a savvy including leader. Likely rather fights it from outside than smartly from the inside like Fujitora.
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Man, Akainu made the Navy stronger than ever.
 
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OPKnK

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Cozy Sofa said:
What it shows us that Fujitora is a very formidable political player. It doesn't say anything about his power compared to Dragon or the other Admirals. It is also possible he is the only one that could get away with what he is doing due to being blind and pretending to be slow. Humans always underestimate someone like that.

Political savvyness and leadership tier list
S-tier
Sengoku, Kong, Fujitora
A-tier
-
B-tier
Akainu, Aokiji
C-tier
-
D-tier
Garp
-
E-tier
Kizaru, Aramaki

Sengoku was unquestioned leader for years hailed for his strategic mind, Kong has climbed even beyond FA (could be due to being a yes man though) and Fujitora has in no time gotten his will through outsmarting Akainu and only gotten found out by the GOAT Sengoku.

Akainu and Aokiji both are able to lead but they can't unite the Marines leading to factions.

Garp has loyal followers but he is way too rash and lacks smart ways to dupe his superiors to get his will through.

Kizaru and Aramaki follow rather than lead.

Dragon probably is more of a leader in opposition than a savvy including leader. Likely rather fights it from outside than smartly from the inside like Fujitora.
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Thing is at the end of the day fuji get the warlord replace but with clone child version of them .
That even more under the CD thumbs , he did good thing but WG just make look what ever .
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

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-Dragon was a Marine in the past, but he left after learning that there was no justice there.
:steef::steef::steef::steef:This is reminiscent of Dragon's Conqueror's Haki, much like it was reminiscent of Kaido's Conqueror's Haki in his flashback.
 
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