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Fn Lucci

Fn Lucci

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NAMELESS said:
I don't know who these people are,i just found these videos and felt like sharing it.My thoughts are exactly this:Israel needs to take out Hamas,but not they way they are doing.These bombings produce too much collateral damage,this is unacceptable.
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What saddens me the most is to see Christian and right wingers absolutely oblivious about what Israel is doing right now.
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I actually did protest on Sunday and sure enough, some redneck in a big truck rolled down his window to mime shooting us lol.

The Washington one well, I'm incredibly far and although I was invited I think I'd be a little nervous being there anyway

Josh Paul was right. Yes the other candidates next year will be on this same bullshit but Biden will be the one to suffer at the polls. I don't know who has much faith in him across all these issues
 
Tensub

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notAfanboy said:

JUST IN: French Senators Propose Bill to make 'Zionism' Criticism a Criminal Offense

A group of 16 French senators, mainly from The Republicans (LR) party, introduced a bill to criminalize 'anti-Zionism'

Denying the existence of Israel could lead to one year in prison and an EUR 45,000 fine, while insulting the State of Israel may result in two years of imprisonment and a fine of EUR 75,000

Those directly provoking hatred or violence against Israel could face up to five years in prison and an EUR 100,000 fine.

Senator Le Rudulier argues that 'anti-Zionism' is linked to the increase in anti-Semitism.

Source: TVP World


https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1720526107311550878?s=20
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Disgusting
 
Zenos7

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Logiko said:
Its all a matter of context. In a context where we are talking about trans and there struggle and when we are trying to sensibilize people about the science behind gender studies, saying "I just care about biology and not gender identity" is actually harmfull for the narrative that is trying to help trans people.

Plus saying that trans people need help is straight up transphobe. Those who need help are those who suffer from gender disphoria, something that can be healed by simple gender affirming care, trans in general do not need help so lets stop pathologizing them or things will get ugly real fast.

I hate people who try to pathologize other people.
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You cant force other people to care about your self perception.

And we were talking about the suicidal people, i just didnt specify that in the last post. Obviously not all trans people get suicidal over random strangers disagreeing or discriminating against them
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Logiko said:
No as long as there will be transphobic rethoric, there will be people fighting it
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"Transphobic rhetoric" according to you nutjob is way too broad anyway
 
Logiko

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NAMELESS said:
@Logiko you still think the state should regulate speech?This is what happens when you give them the power to do it.
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Like I said, free speech has a limit. A limit you put down for yourself. That limit can therefore be legitimate (not allowing hatespeech) or straightup fascist like this one here.

In this case. I'll gladly do two years of prison if it is to stand against fascism as I have already crossed the line multiple time here. But hey, lets cross the line one more time:

Israel is a crypto fascist state. And France are following in their footstep
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Zenos7 said:
"Transphobic rhetoric" according to you nutjob is way too broad anyway
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Sure mate.
 
Zenos7

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notAfanboy said:

JUST IN: French Senators Propose Bill to make 'Zionism' Criticism a Criminal Offense

A group of 16 French senators, mainly from The Republicans (LR) party, introduced a bill to criminalize 'anti-Zionism'

Denying the existence of Israel could lead to one year in prison and an EUR 45,000 fine, while insulting the State of Israel may result in two years of imprisonment and a fine of EUR 75,000

Those directly provoking hatred or violence against Israel could face up to five years in prison and an EUR 100,000 fine.

Senator Le Rudulier argues that 'anti-Zionism' is linked to the increase in anti-Semitism.

Source: TVP World


https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1720526107311550878?s=20
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@Logiko 's country maybe becoming fascist?!?!?
 
Logiko

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Zenos7 said:
Yes, a true statement like trans women are male is transphobic according to you.
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First, its wrong as it is "as the attribute of males". Second Its is transphobic, not only according to me, but according to trans people and scientist who research the subject as it is clearly hurtfull. But you don't care about reality so keep doing what you are doing and I'll keep reporting you until there is a actual trans person in the mods that start taking those subject seriously. This day, you'll be gone.
 
Zenos7

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Logiko said:
First, its wrong as it is "as the attribute of males". Second Its is transphobic, not only according to me, but according to trans people and scientist who research the subject as it is clearly hurtfull. But you don't care about reality so keep doing what you are doing and I'll keep reporting you until there is a actual trans person in the mods that start taking those subject seriously. This day, you'll be gone.
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Something being hurtful to some people has nothing to do with whether its true or not.

Male is a biological concept, trans women are male, there is no way around that. That is reality.

Have fun reporting me for making true statements, and nothing will happen as all the other times i made this true statement before.
 
Logiko

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Zenos7 said:
Gonna keep living there or are you willing to move?
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I don't have the strenght to fight neither have I the strenght to move so I will take the hits as they come or I will end up in prison. Meh, I'm already in prison anyway, won't change much.. at least I'll see some people.


Zenos7 said:
trans women are male
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No, they have males ATTRIBUTES. Sex is far more complicated than just "male or female" its about a series of set of attributes.


Zenos7 said:
Have fun reporting me
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Its never fun to report someone, but you do you.
 
Zenos7

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Logiko said:
I don't have the strenght to fight neither have I the strenght to move so I will take the hits as they come or I will end up in prison. Meh, I'm already in prison anyway, won't change much.. at least I'll see some people.



No, they have males ATTRIBUTES. Sex is far more complicated than just "male or female" its about a series of set of attributes.



Its never fun to report someone, but you do you.
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There is a set of secondary attributes to male and female, sure.

Not gonna repeat posting definitions for male and female. But trans people dont change their sex, so they keep being their actual sex, even if they make changes to their appearance and have a different gender identity. Unless you think that constitutes them changing their sex.
 
Logiko

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Zenos7 said:
There is a set of secondary attributes to male and female, sure.

Not gonna repeat posting definitions for male and female. But trans people dont change their sex, so they keep being their actual sex, even if they make changes to their appearance and have a different gender identity. Unless you think that constitutes them changing their sex.
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They don't change their sex attributes. They change their gender.
 
NAMELESS

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Logiko said:
Like I said, free speech has a limit. A limit you put down for yourself. That limit can therefore be legitimate (not allowing hatespeech) or straightup fascist like this one here.

In this case. I'll gladly do two years of prison if it is to stand against fascism as I have already crossed the line multiple time here. But hey, lets cross the line one more time:

Israel is a crypto fascist state. And France are following in their footstep
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Sure mate.
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yeah?So go ahead and protest against Israel in your country right now.Lets see how it goes and how much "freedom" you have.
 
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